Law Biden Appointed Judge Just Severely Handicapped Trump's Mass Deportation Plan

[DoctorTaco]

I doubt it'll take that long, but in the meantime, I'm assuming the administration will find some wiggle room to let them continue what they're doing, until the ultimate decision comes down.

It’s less “wiggle room” and more, “try and stop us lol”. We’ve seen it already.

 

[Kingz]

Another easy reversal coming here.

For one, her rationale in overstepping fhe ruling against nationwide injunctions is dubious.

2. Expedited removal is established via legislation since 96 and has been used by all Presidents. Just because the last President only did it st the border does not mean the law was meant to only be enforced at the border.

Also, Who the fuck are they stating their case to? Should they get to go to Oval Office? Congress? A full trial that can last years? Due process isn’t infinite process. They get removal orders by immigration judges and the only process they deserve is making sure they are actually illegal before they are deported…no legal residents have been deported. The only mistake was sending an illegal with removal orders to the one country the order said he couldn’t be sent to.

They don’t need a trial for that and they haven’t needed a trial for that under Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump 1.0, or Biden until somebody actually wants to enforce the law and remove a significant amount of illegals. Not just padding their stats at the border deporting the same people over and over again before they are eventually let in.

So you got the striking down of nationwide injunctions. The written law enabling expirated removals. The Supreme Court affirming third country deportations.

This won’t hamper shit. As will be evident in the next couple weeks when ICE sweeps Chicago

 

[Kingz]

It took that long when Trump expanded expedited removal in June 2019. Trump expanded expedited removal which got stopped by a judge. The appeal was successful, but it finished in Oct 2021 - almost a year and a half later. That was toward the end of his first term, so he only managed to deport 17 people with expedited removal. Basically the courts ran out the clock on him.

Trump has already had a half a year in office. This appeal will probably take a year and a half. So that is about half his term where deportations are basically going to be halted to a crawl.

And no the judge's decision did not give any wiggle room. They have to stop all expedited removals for this criteria ASAP.



But this judge already acknowledges expedited removal is constitutional in her statements with the decision.

"Cobb, who was appointed President Joe Biden, said she was not questioning the constitutionality of the expedited removal statute and its “long-standing application” in border control."

The fact that it’s already been through the system recently and Trump won means more than likely it won’t take the same amount of time. Since precedent(and law) now is on his side as a result of that near two year delay.

They won’t spend two years debating what they already did for two years a few years ago.

It also likely means that any “pending review” will be accompanied by a stay of the judges ruling allowing the admins policy to continue. But I doubt it gets that far, because as you acknowledge. They already spent two years on this and Trump won. What justified revisiting it? Enforcement? lol

Also a major difference now from then, is nationwide injunctions have mostly been struck down.

This isn’t the first attempt by activist judges in this term to slow deportations. A lot of them doing the same thing that helped “run out the clock” before but are being stayed indefinitely upon further review if not flat out struck down now.

Let’s say, on immigration policy..Trump 1.0 crawled so Trump 2.0 can run.

The novel approach used by Trump that wasn’t cleared out by his first term, which was the Alien Enemies Act, is the one being tied up for maybe years. The rest would require a massive change of heart by SCOTUS to be allowed to hold up anything for any significant time.

Theres a reason the left has been suspiciously muted on this ruling. I think they know it’s not going to stand as much as we do.

These other things like expedited removals are already settled with no real new wrinkles to justify new debate and judgements outside of volume.

 

[jk7707]

Good

 

[Hog-train]

The fact that it’s already been through the system recently and Trump won means more than likely it won’t take the same amount of time. Since precedent(and law) now is on his side as a result of that near two year delay.

They won’t spend two years debating what they already did for two years a few years ago.

It also likely means that any “pending review” will be accompanied by a stay of the judges ruling allowing the admins policy to continue. But I doubt it gets that far, because as you acknowledge. They already spent two years on this and Trump won. What justified revisiting it? Enforcement? lol

Also a major difference now from then, is nationwide injunctions have mostly been struck down.

This isn’t the first attempt by activist judges in this term to slow deportations. A lot of them doing the same thing that helped “run out the clock” before but are being stayed indefinitely upon further review if not flat out struck down now.

Let’s say, on immigration policy..Trump 1.0 crawled so Trump 2.0 can run.

The novel approach used by Trump that wasn’t cleared out by his first term, which was the Alien Enemies Act, is the one being tied up for maybe years. The rest would require a massive change of heart by SCOTUS to be allowed to hold up anything for any significant time.

Theres a reason the left has been suspiciously muted on this ruling. I think they know it’s not going to stand as much as we do.

These other things like expedited removals are already settled with no real new wrinkles to justify new debate and judgements outside of volume.

Who knows. I suspect this judge knows this temporary stay won't last. But the goal is to delay and hamper as much as possible.

The appeal might take less than 1.5 years, but I can't see it being less than at least a few months. That's valuable time his deportation agenda will be severely hampered.

 

[Eusung]

Will clearly lose in appeals and/or SCOTUS..

I only clicked on this thread to confirm this - because it's what I figured. It's the same story and sequence of events every time: Random judge usually appointed by Obama or Biden blocks some Trump policy/EO. Shortly later, maybe a few months, turns out nope it's not blocked because some other court, or the supreme court says so.

I stopped caring about these "Judge blocks Trump policy" stories several months ago. Maybe I gave a shit during the first two until I realized this is just the standard sequence of events for every Trump policy.

 

[Beechwood]

It has been eye opener how the court system really works, with bias activist judges, and since Trump came onto the political scene. It doesn't put a whole lot of trust in our judicial system. I do get the opinion that a large number of Americans no longer trust our judicial court system. Your not likely to receive a fair trial in a blue run city if you are a conservative.

Looks like Trump is still charging forward with his illegal immigration deportation plans. Biden and the Democrats open border policies created a lot of problems for America. It is going to take time to sort it out.

The Left’s Hysteria Over Trump’s Immigration Enforcement Plans in Chicago​

The Left’s Hysteria Over Trump’s Immigration Enforcement Plans in Chicago

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townhall.com

 

[jefferz]

Democrats and leftists care more about illegals than American citizens.

What party has been canceling programs that help American citizens?

 

[Cartiac]

Haha, yea. This will be expeditiously ignored. The Supreme Court could not be more clear or detailed in their opinion expressing how f'ed up it is what these district court judges continue to do, appointing themselves the most powerful people in the country with the sole, individual power to strike down any and all Presidential orders universally.

The Supreme Court actually has essentially no direct power granted by the Constitution. They simply issue their opinion if the arguments presented in the case amount to a violation of the Constitution or not. That concept is the most fragile aspect of the US Government and why Supreme Court Justice is the most sacred position in the country.

The weight and value of the opinion of the court is defined by the honor and integrity the justices hold themselves and each other accountable to. That is why these DISTRICT court judges all of a sudden granting themselves national power and very frequently asserting that power to oppose nearly every executive order from the president is such a major issue to the SCOTUS. It destroys the honor, integrity, and ultimately power of the entire judicial branch.

 

[avenue94]

Well yeah, these DEI appointees weren't chosen because of their legal knowledge or fairness, they're chosen to tick a box and rule how they're told.

This lady wasn't even a judge when Biden appointed her, she was a public defender then worked for one of these grift firms that sue everybody and call them racist and sexist and transphobic.



On June 30, 2023, Relman Colfax filed this gender discrimination lawsuit against the Mukwonago Area School District (MASD) and its superintendent, Joe Koch, for denying Jane Doe #1, an eleven-year-old transgender girl, access to girls’ restrooms at school.

As opposed to....Emil Bove and his illustrious record?

 

[Jacket time]

Will clearly lose in appeals and/or SCOTUS.

This is the same judge overseeing the fed governor case lol

Just one more piece of evidence of a corrupt judiciary by DEI freaks from a few institutions and rushed in under Biden and Obama, but just like corrupt fed governor Lisa cook,her judge who refuses to recuse herself is from the same sorority.

Yea no conflict of interest? Modern leftism is fascist, Marxist, authoritarian break through.

They are sorority sisters

 

[Confucamus]

Democrats and leftists care more about illegals than American citizens.

It says a lot about them when you see a judge being celebrated for defying the will of the American voter.

 

[Alpha_T83]

It'll cost tax payers hundreds of thousands of dollars to deport every single illegal individual in legal costs, even the ones with lengthy criminal records.

So you're advocating human rights violations to save some money?

 

[Jacket time]

So you're advocating human rights violations to save some money?

Alpha, explain to me like I'm 5, why US taxpayers were paying the Government of Pakistan 7 million dollars a month to house Illegal migrants in a luxury hotel

 

[cottagecheesefan]

They are sorority sisters

I know and the sorority put out an official statement, undermining the impartiality of the judge. Obviously should recuse as her sorority sisters are pressuring her. It is so blatant lol.

 

[Alpha_T83]

Alpha, explain to me like I'm 5, why US taxpayers were paying the Government of Pakistan 7 million dollars a month to house Illegal migrants in a luxury hotel

This is a completely different problem. This is a result of inept liberal policies to try and solve the world's problems with well meaning but poorly planned asylum programs. The government shouldn't be bringing people into the country they don't already have efficient facilities for handling.

And I'm not a fan of most asylum programs, because they often end up being abused by people that don't really need them but just want to freeload on liberal welfare.

BUT this has nothing to do with violating human rights and deporting people without due process.

 

[heloder]

It says a lot about them when you see a judge being celebrated for defying the will of the American voter.

Judges are beholden to the law—not the President's whims. You should read up a bit on American civics and political science if that confuses you.

 

[Soggust]

I don't see the argument here from the judge, at all.

If they expanded the range previously, and the law allows so, then any prior DHS precedent seems irrelevant, imo.

If the argument is lack of due process, not jurisdiction, then why would it be allowed at the border in the first place?

 

[nonoob]

Cobb's decision will not remain in place, nor will be followed pending an appeal. Just some more death throes from an activist judge.

That's a nothing burger ruling. She mighta ruled that while holding and sticking pins in a mini DJT hoo-doo doll.

 

[avenue94]

I don't see the argument here from the judge, at all.

If they expanded the range previously, and the law allows so, then any prior DHS precedent seems irrelevant, imo.

If the argument is lack of due process, not jurisdiction, then why would it be allowed at the border in the first place?

For the same reason that ICE is allowed warrantless searches that are exempt from the 4th Amendment near the border, but not in the middle of the country.

I don't know if her ruling is very sound, but authority of government agencies is not created equal in all parts of the country.