How do you think infrastructure is paid for locally? This is a bizarre argument, to claim immigrants don't pay for infrastructure.Good thing that's not what I said in reference to infrastructure.
How do you think infrastructure is paid for locally? This is a bizarre argument, to claim immigrants don't pay for infrastructure.Good thing that's not what I said in reference to infrastructure.
Get a load of Charlie Chaplin over here...You know whats a better living then some of these places in shit hole countries? our prison system. Come to USA break some laws and be guaranteed shelter, protection and meals.
Lol, no I don't support going to Home Depot and chasing around taxpayers to deport even if they're here illegally. Trump went very gung-ho when he could have at least put some sort of program in place to allow a window of time for law-abiders to show up and try to get some extradited process for citizenship. But this probably should been done long ago, if there was enough foresight to see the potential for this to happen to begin with.What about the ones that have steady jobs for years and pay their taxes? Do you find it disingenuous to deport these people, even though they're law abiding productive citizens, because of their "original sin"? Seems like a path to citizenship would make more sense if you were thinking rationally rather than "xenophobically".
I said we do not currently have it, not that we can't afford it. We can build it.How do you think infrastructure is paid for locally? This is a bizarre argument, to claim immigrants don't pay for infrastructure.
Guess what percent of the construction industry are immigrants.I said we do not currently have it, not that we can't afford it. We can build it.
We have a housing shortage as it currently is. You can't bring in millions of people where the hell are they going to live? A YMCA? In a classroom?
Rednecks and Mexicans probably. There's a bunch of them all around me.Guess what percent of the construction industry are immigrants.
Well get on that then.The barrier to sufficient housing supply is regulation and cost, not an actual permanent dearth of housing.
I need evidence that there is minimal correlation.You'll also notice little correlation between housing supply and immigration levels, do you have any good evidence to the contrary?
Get a load of Charlie Chaplin over here...
Want to guess if that lowers or increases the cost of construction (aka housing construction pace)?Rednecks and Mexicans probably. There's a bunch of them all around me.
Plenty of places are trying but locals are a pain in the ass everywhere. Bottom line, the country can walk and chew gum here, it's a problem of political will . Not economic capacity or limits.Well get on that then.
Feel free to find it, that's what I asked. You're the one making that argument.I need evidence that there is minimal correlation.
Why would you propose a ridiculous edge case instead of just looking at housing and immigration trends by region? It seems like you're grasping at straws and haven't thought about your claim.If you just dropped 10,000 people in my city of 60,000 for instance as an example, the demand is going to massively spike for housing which is going to raise prices on everyone. Additionally, it's going to cause mass burden on the poor effected by it. On top of the poor being effected, people settled in their residences already are going to see an increase in price.
Then you're going to have multiple people living in crowded spaces which will cause it's own problems in multiple areas mentally and physically.
We don't have to go into supply and demand dynamics here do we?
Are they paying 100% of their taxes they should be paying? federal, state. Not just sales taxWhat about the ones that have steady jobs for years and pay their taxes? Do you find it disingenuous to deport these people, even though they're law abiding productive citizens, because of their "original sin"? Seems like a path to citizenship would make more sense if you were thinking rationally rather than "xenophobically".
No, no, no friend. I asked you for evidence that the correlation was minimal off an argument you tried to make.Want to guess if that lowers or increases the cost of construction (aka housing construction pace)?
Plenty of places are trying but locals are a pain in the ass everywhere. Bottom line, the country can walk and chew gum here, it's a problem of political will . Not economic capacity or limits.
Feel free to find it, that's what I asked. You're the one making that argument.
Why would you propose a ridiculous edge case instead of just looking at housing and immigration trends by region? It seems like you're grasping at straws and haven't thought about your claim.
And multifamily or multigenerational housing is quite common in the world. As long as we aren't violating safety codes (which are not the same as zoning codes), that's just efficiency.
And you're the one making the argument about immigration hurting supply and demand balance here, so prove it.
So you want evidence that disproves a stance you hold with no evidence? Such laziness.No, no, no friend. I asked you for evidence that the correlation was minimal off an argument you tried to make.
The article I read last night said he is going to be tried for crimes here first. We will see.Seems kind of a gamble that he gets an actual trial if they're sending him off to someplace like Lybia in the interim.
So you want evidence that disproves a stance you hold with no evidence? Such laziness.
Oh well, here's some charity. This is vacancy rate, this is share of immigrant population for California.
The unspoken part here you're missing (among many things) is that immigrants go where their is demand for labor, and by extension enough housing to support it. They aren't outcompeting natives for apartments, let alone housing: unless you think illegal immigrants are making more on average than natives.
It makes me a person that can identify hypocrisy.Do you think that makes you sound like a reasonable person or a partisan shill?
With that broad a brush? Not Progressives, the Squad, BLM... Saying Democrats makes it seem like you're playing the "us versus them" game.It makes me a person that can identify hypocrisy.
I can accept an argument that that's a bridge too far for California and first to go when deficits happen. Even with that cost though, immigrants are still a net gain fiscally for state and country.In California, illegal immigrants get covered by Medicaid which costs an additional 8.5 billion a year. So the state is looking to borrow 3.4 billion because they're short.
Why the hell should taxpayers have to pay for this massive expense?
No they aren't and it isn't even close.I can accept an argument that that's a bridge too far for California and first to go when deficits happen. Even with that cost though, immigrants are still a net gain fiscally for state and country.
Notice how he won't separate legal from illegal immigrants.No they aren't and it isn't even close.