Movies THUNDERBOLTS* (Dragonlord's Review, post #1)

[KnightTemplar]

I didn't think Bucky's lines were bad. He just had to be a leader for a change and it's not his style.

Curious to see his group clash with Sam's group.

Who's in Sam's Avengers anyway? Shang Chi and Wong?

 

[PRIDEWASBETTER]

Who's in Sam's Avengers anyway? Shang Chi and Wong?

I would think them, Capt Marvel, War Machine, Hawkeye, Ant-Man, Falcon, Black Panther....

Maybe some others that I'm not thinking about.

 

[KnightTemplar]

I would think them, Capt Marvel, War Machine, Hawkeye, Ant-Man, Falcon, Black Panther....

Maybe some others that I'm not thinking about.

There's a rumour going around the JR is not interested in coming back as Hawkeye, because Fiege didn't offer him enough money.

 

[PRIDEWASBETTER]

There's a rumour going around the JR is not interested in coming back as Hawkeye, because Fiege didn't offer him enough money.

I think Feige will get Bob to open up the checkbook. He didn't even want any more money. He just wanted the same amount as S1. I get he might not be in it as much, but still. Show an OG and your deadliest Avenger some respect.

 

[Dragonlordxxxxx]

Needs a Z

They're reserving the unveiling of AvengerZ title for the digital release.

 

[Dragonlordxxxxx]

Who's in Sam's Avengers anyway? Shang Chi and Wong?

I don't think Sam Wilson has reformed the Avengers at this point.

But after Secret Wars, I'm pretty sure the new and legit Avengers lineup will feature the heavy hitters like Thor, Black Panther, Star-Lord(?), Captain Marvel and others. I could see Yelena joining them also.

 

[Dragonlordxxxxx]

There's a rumour going around the JR is not interested in coming back as Hawkeye, because Fiege didn't offer him enough money.

He didn't say he wasn't coming back. He was just complaining to the public about his offered pay for season 2. Basically this is just a negotiating tactic to get a better deal.

I think Feige will get Bob to open up the checkbook. He didn't even want any more money. He just wanted the same amount as S1. I get he might not be in it as much, but still. Show an OG and your deadliest Avenger some respect.

We've all heard Jeremy Renner's interview where he divulges that he was offered one half of his season one salary. But I suspect that what he omitted out was that maybe his character Clint Barton would also have less screen time in season 2 of Hawkeye.

 

[Dragonlordxxxxx]

They also wasted too much time on Valentina's secretary. That character got entirely too much screentime and she wasn't even necessary. If Bucky wanted information, he should have been able to easily get it out of an intern or Valentina with tech, or old fashion spying.

Overall, great movie. I wish they had had time to make a Part 2 so that we could grow a bit more with these guys.
8.8/10

I have a take on Val and Mel's relationship which I haven't seen anyone mentioned yet. Mel betrayed Val by leaking information to Bucky. After talking to Bucky, we then see Val confront Mel and lectured her. I suspect Val knew Mel betrayed her but had mercy on her and didn't have her killed. That act of mercy or kindness basically saved Val later on when Sentry tried to kill her. If Val had Mel killed, Mel wouldn't have been there to save Val at the end.

 

[Dragonlordxxxxx]

Thanks to the quality of this film, I think there's a little less pressure on Fantastic Four, which, in my view, now really just has to not muck things up as opposed to needing to knock it out of the park .

The Marvel Studios brand has been tarnished over the past few years and there's a lot of casual fans that have stopped following the MCU. The MCU is now in their rebuilding phase, trying to go back to what worked. Just like Thunderbolts, I think Fantastic Four: First Steps will be good but will not make a lot of money. But that's okay. A lot of the movies in Marvel's Phase One didn't make a lot of money either. But they continued to make quality superhero films and eventually their audience and box office grew.

I just hope they stop with all this multiverse nonsense after Secret Wars.

 

[Dragonlordxxxxx]

 

[The Clinch]

Think it’s neat that Marvel is sorta rebranding a movie shortly after release.

Outside the box promotionals to possibly get more folks interested.

 

[ufcfan4]

Think it’s neat that Marvel is sorta rebranding a movie shortly after release.

Outside the box promotionals to possibly get more folks interested.

Yeah, was going to say it’s gimmicky but I really like the gimmick. Can’t recall something similar.

 

[Dragonlordxxxxx]

Since the cat is out of the bag, I'll reveal what Robert Downey Jr. spoiled in his IG post on May 1 before he edited it a few hours later. He originally said, "Just wow!!! Dinner and a show with the Old Avengers. So cool, fresh, and deep. Big congrats to the New Avengers (and Bob)." Even though he edited out the "New Avengers" line, some still figured out the spoiler by his "Old Avengers" line.

Update: May 2, 2025

AVENGERS: DOOMSDAY Cast Assemble to Congratulates THUNDERBOLTS*

Word of advice: If you haven't seen the movie yet, do not look for the captions or context for these images in social media because it contains spoilers.

 

[Dragonlordxxxxx]

Overall, great movie. I wish they had had time to make a Part 2 so that we could grow a bit more with these guys.
8.8/10

Don't worry, they'll eventually reveal Avengers: Doomsday is actually Thunderbolts 2.

 

[PRIDEWASBETTER]

 

[Dragonlordxxxxx]

How awesome was Son Lux's score for Thunderbolts. Below is the main theme which gives off that Avengers vibe big time.



And how about this badass score when Bucky made his dramatic entrance during the desert chase scene.



The first flight scene I think was the first time I started noticing how fantastic the score was.

 

[I Fusion I]

People's saying it's a good film, action packed and funny... so i'm considering seeing it on blu when it comes out... dunno if i'll have the time to go at the cinema for it

 

[no fat chicks]

Thanks for the review, I was wondering what to watch

 

[Law Talkin’ Guy]

Uh, are there any post-endgame shows or movies that a person ought to watch to know what’s going on? I did watch the Black Widow movie as well as the Falcon and Winter Soldier series. Is that good enough or are they any others that I need to see?

 

[Dragonlordxxxxx]

Uh, are there any post-endgame shows or movies that a person ought to watch to know what’s going on? I did watch the Black Widow movie as well as the Falcon and Winter Soldier series. Is that good enough or are they any others that I need to see?

You're good to go. Black Widow (2021) and Falcon and the Winter Soldier are the only two essentials to watch before seeing Thunderbolts.

Bucky does make a cameo appearance in Brave New World but it was not that important and not necessary to watch that movie. He just shows up in the hospital to give moral support to Sam Wilson and they reveal that Bucky's running for congress.