Movies THOR: LOVE AND THUNDER (Dragonlord's Review)

[SaiWa]

He may not have even known the Thunderbolt would enhance his ability, but I just rewatched it and the the blue lightening even turns to gold as he points his hand, so I definitely think there's something to your point

Thank you. I should have mentioned that as well to bolster my argument (since i also rewatched that scene on youtube last night). Taiki obviously wanted the viewers to see that the lighting around the kids are yellow and not blue - it's not an accident. It means Thunderbolt was heavily involved in the transferal of power so it is absolutely not farfetched to say part if not most of the power is from Thunderbolt.

 

[SaiWa]

I need to take a deep breath and chillax? Yeah, you don't seem sensitive at all, man. <45>

I wasn't being passive aggressive in my last reply. My reply was genuine.
But we're having a conversation about a comic book movie and memes and sarcasm are not allowed? And you say you aren't sensitive?
I've already told you that there's no need to continue this, especially when you're either not reading, or not understanding my replies. I addressed why I dismissed your arguments, because I am judging the movie on the movie that I saw, and the MCU that I know, and not on what Wikipedia, or a greek mythology book has to say. I've already said that I can live with the disagreement and don't fault people for liking it, but you keep coming back to me with the same argument as if it makes sense, or as if it changes anything that I said.
If it makes sense in your head, cool. It doesn't to me.

I am the mad one? You admitted to spazzing out dude.

I'm spazzing out because I'm responding to you and telling you that your arguments are crap?

As if I am making this up. I am responding to your post buddy.

EDIT: i will admit now that you never admitted to spazzing out. I failed to see the "?" at the end.
I still think you're way too confrontational in some your post. I am not being sensitive about it. You're just being combative and dismissive of reasonable arguments.

And what you are saying is a total cop out. you asked questions, I answered them. My interpretation of the movie and then you reject them with no basis aside from "what you know about the MCU"? For example:

One other random point.....how can Zeus...the God of Thunder be killed by his own Thunderbolt?
You can't kill Thor with lightning.
I know in the end that he didn't die, but it doesn't make any sense why they would think that that weapon would even hurt him.

Where in the MCU world that you know suggest that Thunderbolt cannot harm/hurt Zeus? Please explain ? All you said was Thor cannot be harmed by lightning. The power of lightning resides within Thor and the hammer assist in conducting that power even it if has lightning property. The lightning of Zeus comes from Thunderbolt, not Zeus himself. There is an actual and logical difference. And as i've stated Thor can be beaten up by the hammer (happen in comic books). Thanos almost killed Thor with Thunderstorm in Engame. Your own physical weapon can be used against you and since Thunderbolt is a physical weapon that can be stolen why would you think it cannot be used to hurt Zeus?

I've given you concrete reasoning here. I am not getting a proper answer from you aside from a dismissive "that's BS".

You cannot respond because you have no logical answer as a retort.

 

[Law Talkin’ Guy]

What a clusterfuck…

This thread I mean.

 

[SmilinDesperado]

What a clusterfuck…

This thread I mean.

My apologies.
<{chips}>

 

[SaiWa]

What a clusterfuck…

This thread I mean.

I apologize as well.

 

[LilMountain]

What a clusterfuck…

This thread I mean.

I take it you aren't in the She-Hulk thread, I had to just mute like half a dozen accounts

 

[Mack McMarkles]

He may not have even known the Thunderbolt would enhance his ability, but I just rewatched it and the the blue lightening even turns to gold as he points his hand, so I definitely think there's something to your point

me too on that point.

And i do think the deleted scenes are relevant. They are often dropped for reasons like length, but are insightful to some missing information.

In this instance i think Thor took Zeus' teaching to heart. Odin taught Thor 'he' was vessel and not Mjolnir. Zeus taught him the vessel is irrelevant. Thor may well have believed after that he could pass on 'his' ability to control energy, but what he ended up doing was teaching them what Zeus taught him inadvertently.

I think if Thor had any inkling he could do that and did not empower the forces standing against Thanos that would be negligence.

 

[LilMountain]

I think if Thor had any inkling he could do that and did not empower the forces standing against Thanos that would be negligence.

I was thinking about that and imagine it drains him in some way, so vs Thanos it wasn't worth it cause everyone fighting already had their own powers in one way or another, whereas the kids didn't and he couldn't divide his focus between protecting all of them from the shadow beasts and fighting Gorr, so it was worth being weaker but able to focus, but maybe it didn't drain him as much (or it gave them more strength than he anticipated) because of the thunderbolt

 

[Spounman]

It's cool for mindless ADHD entertainment. Thor and Gor were cool, the two women he travels with are cringe.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

$600 million?

That's remarkably low for a big Marvel movie starring one of the biggest Avengers.

Guess (most) audiences are getting tired of Marvel films.

 

[LilMountain]

$600 million?

That's remarkably low for a big Marvel movie starring one of the biggest Avengers.

Guess (most) audiences are getting tired of Marvel films.

That's an old update, it passed 750 now

 

[Ares Black]

$600 million?

That's remarkably low for a big Marvel movie starring one of the biggest Avengers.

Guess (most) audiences are getting tired of Marvel films.

Lol. Only $756 million???

MCU is dying!

 

[GearSolidMetal]

That's an old update, it passed 750 now

Lol. Only $756 million???

MCU is dying!

Yeah, after the theater's cut + marketing its still making profit but that's got to be lower than expected.

 

[LilMountain]

Yeah, after the theater's cut + marketing its still making profit but that's got to be lower than expected.

Domestically it outgrossed Ragnarok and the loss of the China box office is basically the difference in worldwide numbers from Ragnarok

 

[Aegon Spengler]

The so called adults hating on this movie don’t understand that kids like these movies too.

Thor 4 is the John Cena of marvel movies. People will come around on it eventually. You see Thor 4 with your kid or little cousin or something and you get instantly why it’s so great.

 

[shunyata]

What a clusterfuck…

This thread I mean.

For real, watched it with the kids over the weekend and it was better than I expected.

Had a few laughs and Christian Bale is always good playing a scary motherfucker.



Pop in here and pages on pages of nerd rage.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Domestically it outgrossed Ragnarok and the loss of the China box office is basically the difference in worldwide numbers from Ragnarok

No Way Home made 2 Billion without China.

 

[heavyarms21]

Lol. Only $756 million???

MCU is dying!

Its a weird case because the MCU is measured against itself. Some people would argue this should have gotten a Billion would have been a reasonable growth over Ragnarok. But at the same time apart from Top Gun the MCU is the only reliable thing in cinema profit wise anyways and that's a Number without having the China Box office since they have grown extremely censorship heavy with anything pro American , pro Taiwan any progressive lifestyle. Hollywood has accepted that and has pondered way less now. So $750 mil an interesting number because the film also cost $250 mil. While Ragnarok cost $180 mil and made $850 mil. Love and Thunder wasn't a failure but it wasn't an undisputed success.

 

[heavyarms21]

No Way Home made 2 Billion without China.

China is afraid of Spiders.

 

[LilMountain]

No Way Home made 2 Billion without China.

Thor isn't Spiderman, all the Avengers were basically B-list until the movies