Movies THOR: LOVE AND THUNDER (Dragonlord's Review)

[armbarforhire]

Its a weird case because the MCU is measured against itself. Some people would argue this should have gotten a Billion would have been a reasonable growth over Ragnarok. But at the same time apart from Top Gun the MCU is the only reliable thing in cinema profit wise anyways and that's a Number without having the China Box office since they have grown extremely censorship heavy with anything pro American , pro Taiwan any progressive lifestyle. Hollywood has accepted that and has pondered way less now. So $750 mil an interesting number because the film also cost $250 mil. While Ragnarok cost $180 mil and made $850 mil. Love and Thunder wasn't a failure but it wasn't an undisputed success.

MCU is also expending more money on international marketing (wich is not covered in the films budget) while at the same time the percentages they take from worldwide is less than from domestic revenue.

Horror films have made bank with low budgets, studios making smaller films maybe a option we see in the future. Scream 2022 made 174 millions of a budget of 24. Halloween kills did 134 (with 90 in domestic revenue) out of a 20 budget, would not be surprise if both films did more profit than Love and Thunder or similar money. The ones making the most from the MCU are movie theaters by the volume of tickets sold.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Thor isn't Spiderman, all the Avengers were basically B-list until the movies

And they should be considered A-list accounting for the 10+ Billion their movies have made.

They're not the Eternals, Quan-Chi, or whatever irrelevant team Disney wants to make popular, but still isn't.

 

[LilMountain]

And they should be considered A-list accounting for the 10+ Billion their movies have made.

They're not the Eternals, Quan-Chi, or whatever irrelevant team Disney wants to make popular, but still isn't.

Moreso collectively than individually, only one Cap and one Iron Man movie surpassed a billion from the original team's solo movies. Only two other non-Spiderman standalones did, Cap Marvel and BP, it's not exactly the standard all the movies expect to reach

 

[Mack McMarkles]

I was thinking about that and imagine it drains him in some way, so vs Thanos it wasn't worth it cause everyone fighting already had their own powers in one way or another, whereas the kids didn't and he couldn't divide his focus between protecting all of them from the shadow beasts and fighting Gorr, so it was worth being weaker but able to focus, but maybe it didn't drain him as much (or it gave them more strength than he anticipated) because of the thunderbolt

I just don't think so.

Just as wise Odin told Thor he did not hammer and the hammer was only a channel or focus for his power, wise Zeus took it to the next level, saying Thor did not really need himself. That the power just existed and was everywhere, and it just took the knowledge to channel it.

I think Thor then gave the young kids the confidence they could wield it and then he used his knew knowledge to summon that power.

 

[LilMountain]

I just don't think so.

Just as wise Odin told Thor he did not hammer and the hammer was only a channel or focus for his power, wise Zeus took it to the next level, saying Thor did not really need himself. That the power just existed and was everywhere, and it just took the knowledge to channel it.

I think Thor then gave the young kids the confidence they could wield it and then he used his knew knowledge to summon that power.

So, he lied as a shortcut to making them believe in themselves? But then it's not the thunderbolt but just a power the thunderbolt harnesses/channels?

 

[Mack McMarkles]

So, he lied as a shortcut to making them believe in themselves? But then it's not the thunderbolt but just a power the thunderbolt harnesses/channels?

Not really.

I don't think Thor really knew how it worked at that point.

He believed Zeus that the power was not tethered to him, Zeus the bolt or Thor's hammer (ok for that he believed Odin) but when he thought to try and get the kids to summon the power he did it the way he has always done it, but it was the power Zeus harnesses and not the one Thor typically harnesses that showed up.

 

[Cielo_]

I half assed watched it with the kids today and they seemed to like it, I wasn’t really paying attention enough to have an opinion. From what I saw it was kind of entertaining if you switch your brain off.

 

[shunyata]

The screaming goats were a nice touch.

Great part, or the greatest part of the film?

 

[Deleted member 110072]

As far as the children go you could maybe argue that he was able to pass on his powers to them because they were Asgardians?

 

[Corona]

Finally got around to watching this, it was alright. The story itself wasn’t bad but it felt like it was put together in a sloppy manner. It felt like they were trying to make it too goofy for a while, goofy in a manner that’s not quite as funny for kids but also kind of cringe for adults. The last 45 minutes or so from the shadow realm on were solid, so was janes arc. This movie could’ve been an 8 or 9 if they toned up the darkness, toned down the cheesy ness and cleaned up the pacing a little bit.

 

[Rand M Arthur]

8

I finally got around to watching this lastnight with the kids, and I don't get what the hate is about. Tied for the best MCU product since Endgame, with SM:No Way From Home. Slightly above SM: Far From Home and the Loki TV show.

It was funny when it need to be, poignant when it needed to be, and climatic when it needed to be. I like the world building, the character exposition, and the little cannon clues (Jane was obviously clicked by the Infinity Guantlet, don't know if anyone else noticed that bit). The bad guy was awesome and they managed to get me to root for him over such a simple motive. The fact he even gets a redemption arch really fitted the movie. The SJW stuff was obvious but not obnoxious, so I didn't mind it. Especially the dead-naming bit, which I think fit the "children are our future" thematic tilt.

The only knock I'd give it is that the comedy spilled into the action a little too much. That scene with the splits at the begining was cringe.

 

[theBloB]

So I got to see the film yesterday together with my 2 small children who loved the visual and colorful spectacle. I think the movie is perfect as entertainment for children, but as a grown man over 40 watching it alone? Never. I also think Christian Bale is several classes above everyone else and he kind of doesn't fit into this silly superhero environment with uncreative lighthearted humor.

4 of 10

 

[shunyata]

Finally got around to watching this, it was alright. The story itself wasn’t bad but it felt like it was put together in a sloppy manner. It felt like they were trying to make it too goofy for a while, goofy in a manner that’s not quite as funny for kids but also kind of cringe for adults. The last 45 minutes or so from the shadow realm on were solid, so was janes arc. This movie could’ve been an 8 or 9 if they toned up the darkness, toned down the cheesy ness and cleaned up the pacing a little bit.

I enjoyed the goofiness but I was also not sober. Gave it a 7 because of the goats.

Without the goats, 5.9

Frankly I'd watch a sequel starring the screaming goats.