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By CAMILLE VON KAENEL
12/26/2024 05:00 AM EST


SACRAMENTO, California — California farmers could soon enjoy bumper crops thanks to President-elect Donald Trump’s pledge to lift water restrictions. But who will pick them if he follows through on his deportation threats?

The country’s largest agricultural constituency backed Trump in November, bucking California’s deep-blue electorate over his campaign promises to “open the faucet” and deliver more water to the state’s parched, conservative-leaning Central Valley. But now it’s reckoning with an uncomfortable contradiction: Trump also campaigned on mass deportations of undocumented immigrants, who make up at least half of the state’s agricultural workforce.
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That’s left California’s agricultural barons, who employ the most farm workers of any state in the nation and grow half the produce consumed in the United States, nervously parsing Trump’s rhetoric.

“To say it would have an impact on California would be an understatement,” said Chris Reardon, vice president of policy advocacy at the industry group California Farm Bureau Federation. Reardon, who declined to say who he voted for, has been fielding calls from members asking him what exactly will happen to workers.
“We just don’t know yet,” he’s told them.

Trump has appointed anti-immigration hawks to top positions, like Thomas Homan as border czar, and pledged to begin deportations on “Day One” of his administration, through executive orders crafted to evade legal challenges and by undoing Biden-era restrictions on deportations. Dave Puglia, the president and CEO of the Western Growers Association, called the prospect of sweeps on farms “very troubling.”

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Deporting hundreds of thousands of undocumented farmworkers from California would be logistically difficult and time-consuming, to say nothing of the legal challenges California’s Attorney General Rob Bonta and other Democratic officials are already preparing. Homan has said the administration would prioritize deporting undocumented people who’ve committed serious crimes.

“If that is indeed the focus of the administration’s effort, then I think most people would support that,” said Puglia, who also declined to say who he voted for. “So there’s a little bit of a wait and see thing here.”

During his first term, Trump also said he wouldn’t go after workers in the food sector. But his administration still conducted raids at Mississippi poultry plants and Nebraska produce processing facilities, arresting hundreds of workers. The extent of Trump 2.0’s deportations efforts will determine how much California’s farmers could potentially sacrifice their water access to sway his immigration policies.

So far, they’re primarily focused on building relationships with Trump’s cabinet, including Brooke Rollins, his pick for Agriculture Secretary who’s seen as a trusted adviser on other issues too.
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Puglia said he’ll continue to advocate for stalled bipartisan legislation born out of a 2019 deal between the ag industry and the United Farm Workers. The bill would set up a new temporary worker visa program specifically for agriculture and create a pathway to citizenship for longtime undocumented farmworkers.

One of the bill’s moderate Republican champions, John Duarte, just lost his reelection bid to represent the Central Valley in the House. A fourth generation farmer himself, he has said he is now eyeing a Trump administration job in water or natural resources.

Puglia also sees an opportunity in the Trump administration, which is likely to undo a Biden-era rule that increased labor protections for temporary farmworkers under the H2-A visa. A federal judge in Georgia has stayed the rule following challenges from ag and business groups and Republican attorney generals. Puglia said he’d like to see the H2-A program simplified and expanded for farmworkers instead.
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Antonio De Loera, communications director at the United Farm Workers, said that doesn’t necessarily address the threat of deportations.

“Anything that happens needs to first do right by the workforce that is here, the current workforce that has been feeding us for decades,” said De Loera. “We will not allow that workforce to be discarded and replaced by expansion of an exploitative gap worker program.”

His main focus, he said, will not be on legislation but on organizing and educating workers. Even if Trump doesn’t go through with mass deportations — or if California refuses to carry them through or wins its anticipated legal challenges — the threat still has an impact on workers, who may be less likely to report rights violations, and families who may be torn apart.

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“The main thing we’re doing across the organization is trying to just reassure workers and empower workers, so that they’re not scared by this rhetoric into accepting working conditions that are dangerous,” he said.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/12/26/california-farmers-trump-water-workers-00195839
 
Some photos on this thread are innapropriate , could you please remove them ?
 
The farms around don't need illegals to pick their crops and the costs remain responsible.

Yes they do,
Undocumented immigrants with no work authorization made up 42% of farm workers between 2020-2022.
A lot of farms also use documented, legal immigrants simply because they can’t afford to pay high wages and Americans won’t do the work for what they can pay.

As far as I can tell, the Trump plan is to deport them all, and all of us fine Americans can fill those grueling, low pay jobs.

As for skilled labor? They’re gonna import those. <{Heymansnicker}>
 
The farms around me don't need illegals to pick their crops and the costs remain reasonable.
LOL, you would be surprised.
The local apple farms have barracks for Mexicans to sleep in when they come up for apple season, most people do not know.

Georgia cracked down on migrant workers years ago and crops rotted in fields.
 
By CAMILLE VON KAENEL
12/26/2024 05:00 AM EST


SACRAMENTO, California — California farmers could soon enjoy bumper crops thanks to President-elect Donald Trump’s pledge to lift water restrictions. But who will pick them if he follows through on his deportation threats?

The country’s largest agricultural constituency backed Trump in November, bucking California’s deep-blue electorate over his campaign promises to “open the faucet” and deliver more water to the state’s parched, conservative-leaning Central Valley. But now it’s reckoning with an uncomfortable contradiction: Trump also campaigned on mass deportations of undocumented immigrants, who make up at least half of the state’s agricultural workforce.
images

That’s left California’s agricultural barons, who employ the most farm workers of any state in the nation and grow half the produce consumed in the United States, nervously parsing Trump’s rhetoric.

“To say it would have an impact on California would be an understatement,” said Chris Reardon, vice president of policy advocacy at the industry group California Farm Bureau Federation. Reardon, who declined to say who he voted for, has been fielding calls from members asking him what exactly will happen to workers.
“We just don’t know yet,” he’s told them.

Trump has appointed anti-immigration hawks to top positions, like Thomas Homan as border czar, and pledged to begin deportations on “Day One” of his administration, through executive orders crafted to evade legal challenges and by undoing Biden-era restrictions on deportations. Dave Puglia, the president and CEO of the Western Growers Association, called the prospect of sweeps on farms “very troubling.”

images

Deporting hundreds of thousands of undocumented farmworkers from California would be logistically difficult and time-consuming, to say nothing of the legal challenges California’s Attorney General Rob Bonta and other Democratic officials are already preparing. Homan has said the administration would prioritize deporting undocumented people who’ve committed serious crimes.

“If that is indeed the focus of the administration’s effort, then I think most people would support that,” said Puglia, who also declined to say who he voted for. “So there’s a little bit of a wait and see thing here.”

During his first term, Trump also said he wouldn’t go after workers in the food sector. But his administration still conducted raids at Mississippi poultry plants and Nebraska produce processing facilities, arresting hundreds of workers. The extent of Trump 2.0’s deportations efforts will determine how much California’s farmers could potentially sacrifice their water access to sway his immigration policies.

So far, they’re primarily focused on building relationships with Trump’s cabinet, including Brooke Rollins, his pick for Agriculture Secretary who’s seen as a trusted adviser on other issues too.
images

Puglia said he’ll continue to advocate for stalled bipartisan legislation born out of a 2019 deal between the ag industry and the United Farm Workers. The bill would set up a new temporary worker visa program specifically for agriculture and create a pathway to citizenship for longtime undocumented farmworkers.

One of the bill’s moderate Republican champions, John Duarte, just lost his reelection bid to represent the Central Valley in the House. A fourth generation farmer himself, he has said he is now eyeing a Trump administration job in water or natural resources.

Puglia also sees an opportunity in the Trump administration, which is likely to undo a Biden-era rule that increased labor protections for temporary farmworkers under the H2-A visa. A federal judge in Georgia has stayed the rule following challenges from ag and business groups and Republican attorney generals. Puglia said he’d like to see the H2-A program simplified and expanded for farmworkers instead.
images

Antonio De Loera, communications director at the United Farm Workers, said that doesn’t necessarily address the threat of deportations.

“Anything that happens needs to first do right by the workforce that is here, the current workforce that has been feeding us for decades,” said De Loera. “We will not allow that workforce to be discarded and replaced by expansion of an exploitative gap worker program.”

His main focus, he said, will not be on legislation but on organizing and educating workers. Even if Trump doesn’t go through with mass deportations — or if California refuses to carry them through or wins its anticipated legal challenges — the threat still has an impact on workers, who may be less likely to report rights violations, and families who may be torn apart.

maxresdefault.jpg

“The main thing we’re doing across the organization is trying to just reassure workers and empower workers, so that they’re not scared by this rhetoric into accepting working conditions that are dangerous,” he said.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/12/26/california-farmers-trump-water-workers-00195839
Trump is so fucking stupid he said there is a literal faucet they turned off, and he would turn it back on.
 
Yes they do,
Undocumented immigrants with no work authorization made up 42% of farm workers between 2020-2022.
A lot of farms also use documented, legal immigrants simply because they can’t afford to pay high wages and Americans won’t do the work for what they can pay.

As far as I can tell, the Trump plan is to deport them all, and all of us fine Americans can fill those grueling, low pay jobs.

As for skilled labor? They’re gonna import those. <{Heymansnicker}>

That means 58% aren't.
 
That means 58% aren't.
Thank you, math wizard <lol>

You understand that 42% is an absolutely massive number, yes? As in, farms cannot run at current, necessary production levels without them, and you will never replace them all with Americans.
If Trump actually succeeded in deporting all these people, farmers would be devastated—and so would the rest of us, because we depend on our farmers for, you know, food.

We haven’t even touched on the topic of tourism and hospitality. The number of undocumented immigrants that keep restaurants and hotels functioning is staggering.
 
People in other states that don't even know where you live and who have never even seen a farm irl know better about who works in the area you live in. Trust me, bro.
I live in Wisconsin <lol>
I’ve seen a farm or two. Originally from AZ, where major exports like cotton and citrus are wholly dependent on undocumented immigrant labor.
 
I live in Wisconsin <lol>
I’ve seen a farm or two. Originally from AZ, where major exports like cotton and citrus are wholly dependent on undocumented immigrant labor.

Wisconsin still allows child labor for agricultural work. I detasseled corn one summer when I was 11 or 12. Truly the worst job I have ever had.
 
Wisconsin still allows child labor for agricultural work. I detasseled corn one summer when I was 11 or 12. Truly the worst job I have ever had.
That sounds fucking horrendous.
 
So the maga rats main concern is the loss of their slave labor...its well known that much of the illegal labor could be stopped by going after employers...but here we are
 
That sounds fucking horrendous.

It was horrendous. Getting up at 4 to make it to the bus and work until 5 in August humidity for 4 or 5 weeks. It’s was a real lord of the flies situation. The supervisors were 15 16 yo kids that had been doing it for a few summers. If they didn’t like you or just wanted to fuck with you they would say you missed one and you had to walk back down the entire row looking for it. All for a whopping $4.50 an hour $5 if you got the bonus for not missing any days.
 
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The usa voted to deport illegal criminals. Trump is a legend and doing his best to stop third world immigrants making the usa third world. Although i fear its too late.
 
if an industry can't survive without essentially slave labor, that's not a serious industry.
 
You can just outsource your farming to us. You may lose jobs but along with it the illegals .
 
That means 58% aren't.
In 2020–22, 32 percent of crop farmworkers were U.S. born, 7 percent were immigrants who had obtained U.S. citizenship, 19 percent were other authorized immigrants and the remaining 42 percent held no work authorization.

Brown people make up around 70 percent of the workforce. Majority of white folks are in supervisory, managerial and inspector positions. Only 30 percent of whites are actually laborers. Honestly if we shut down the skilled visas, pathway to citizenship and mass deport illegals then we will have a huge shortage in labor. We have to compromise somewhere.
 
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