There is no convincing reason why the UFC isn't rebooking Arman VS Islam again

[PulsingJones]

Aside from Dana's vindictiveness... I hate that Islam is fighting yet another fight where he has nothing to gain and everything to lose with Topuria... I'm of the opinion that if you make 155 you're a lightweight, but clearly most people don't share this opinion so if Islam wins he "defends against FWs", if he loses (which is a real possibility since Ilia is a dangerous KO artist) he'll lose everything.

No one else besides Arman at LW, it makes sense to rebook that.

 

[Mammothman]

The whole situation is very shitty for Islam but it doesn't matter whi he fights, he will show up as he always does.

 

[FrappeDuRocma]

Yeah, it's all on Dana and Arman...

 

[RockyLockridge]

Aside from Dana's vindictiveness... I hate that Islam is fighting yet another fight where he has nothing to gain and everything to lose with Topuria... I'm of the opinion that if you make 155 you're a lightweight, but clearly most people don't share this opinion so if Islam wins he "defends against FWs", if he loses (which is a real possibility since Ilia is a dangerous KO artist) he'll lose everything.

No one else besides Arman at LW, it makes sense to rebook that.

He's not fighting a FW this time. he'll be fighting someone transitioning to a new weightclass. This isn't a FW on 10 days notice when there is a viable LW prepared to fight. this is different case altogether. this isn't a FW trying for a second title. Illa is now a lw. he's not going back to FW. he's relinqished the FW title and is moving on to lightweight permenately.

I'm known to be islams harshest critic. I dont criticize him fighting volk the first time. Just the second time and the porier fight i'm HIGHLY critical of (his manager designed the outcome of that perfectly). Islam should not be scrutinized hard for fighting Illa if the UFC wants it. Illa is undefeated, and unlike volk, has wins in the UFC LW division already. we already know that Illa has one shot KO power at LW as we have seen it before.

This is as legit as a challenge for islam as it can get. Armen deserves the fight, but if he's botched his chance and the UFC wants to hold it against them they can, though I dont feel they should. Simply because that fight was first delayed by islam in the first place.

 

[Edward Henry Greb]

Aside from Dana's vindictiveness... I hate that Islam is fighting yet another fight where he has nothing to gain and everything to lose with Topuria... I'm of the opinion that if you make 155 you're a lightweight, but clearly most people don't share this opinion so if Islam wins he "defends against FWs", if he loses (which is a real possibility since Ilia is a dangerous KO artist) he'll lose everything.

No one else besides Arman at LW, it makes sense to rebook that.

Bullshit.

Armand Tsarukyan = Unprofessional POS

He literally went down to the weigh-in, to the pre-fight conference, without an inkling of pulling out.

The dude shit the bad at the last possible moment, disappointing fans worldwide, wasting hundreds of thousands of dollars of UFC money and promotion — and should be beheaded, IMO.

Fokker should have crawled into the cage, not only to meet his obligations, but for the opportunity.

At the end the day, Arman Tsarukyan choked and didn't believe he could beat Islam Makhachev, and "try to escape" his commitment, so that his ass wouldn't be under-funded for the check his mouth had written.

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[mangokush]

Arman took away Dana's snow & blackjack money since Dana had to pay Moicano almost a million to save the card because Arman was to have a bad weight cut under the guise of an "injury" 1 day before the event

Arman will never get a title shot for this
Dana's pettiness will make sure of that

 

[Joinho10]

Considering Ilia physically cannot make 145 anymore I don't know how you would be able to classify him as a FW at this point. We have seen him struggle to make weight before to the point UFC had to stop his weight cut. This move up to 155 was only a matter of time and Ilia will be a LW fighter for the foreseeable future.
Of course some will try to argue this is Islam fighting a FW again but those are just dumb shertards.

 

[Edward Henry Greb]

Considering Ilia physically cannot make 145 anymore I don't know how you would be able to classify him as a FW at this point. We have seen him struggle to make weight before to the point UFC had to stop his weight cut. This move up to 155 was only a matter of time and Ilia will be a LW fighter for the foreseeable future.
Of course some will try to argue this is Islam fighting a FW again but those are just dumb shertards.

Bullshit.

"Can't" lives on "Won't" Street ...

Ilia needs to stop lifting weights, stop "living the life," and stay focused on his BEST, LOWEST WEIGHT.

The dude is becoming a disgusting drama queen, and it IS disgusting ...

He needs to stay humble and stay focused.

Alex Pereira, at 37, can still make Middleweight, if he wants to ... because Alex = 100% committed

Artur Beterbiev, at 40, can still make LHW, if he wants to ... because Artur = 100% committed

Fucking Ilia Topouria = Drama Queen POS, just like his hero, Conor MacGregor, and (if he keeps this diva shit up) he will fall by the wayside, ingloriously, just like Conor MacGregor.

Fogging dude needs to get real ...

 

[drphil]

Sure there is.
It's called pettiness, Dana's calling card.

That being said, the man tanked a ppv main event.
They have every right to be wary of booking him to headline a card again until he proves himself.

 

[BowserJr]

Aside from Dana's vindictiveness... I hate that Islam is fighting yet another fight where he has nothing to gain and everything to lose with Topuria... I'm of the opinion that if you make 155 you're a lightweight, but clearly most people don't share this opinion so if Islam wins he "defends against FWs", if he loses (which is a real possibility since Ilia is a dangerous KO artist) he'll lose everything.

No one else besides Arman at LW, it makes sense to rebook that.

I agree 100%

Islam vs a FW is not interfering at all

 

[Myrddin Wild]

It seemz legit to me since Topy can't make teh weight any more & is making a permanent move oop.

That said, Islam strugglez to make weight at 155, & will soon make a permanent move oop too... so the dynamic remains about the same as a LW fighting a FW... we're just shifting everything oop.

Teh fight is still legit though while Islam continuez to suffer that deep weight cut... & Topy'z as dangerous as any of teh other contenderz...

~LET EM BANG BRO~​

 

[Arcticman]

The guy pulled out like 2 days before the fight and almost tanked the event he was not even injured he was just scared didnt make the weight. If im dana and islam i wouldnt be bothered giving him a title shot again either.

 

[Steve Fox]

Arman fumbled it.

 

[Koro_11]

Aside from Dana's vindictiveness... I hate that Islam is fighting yet another fight where he has nothing to gain and everything to lose with Topuria... I'm of the opinion that if you make 155 you're a lightweight, but clearly most people don't share this opinion so if Islam wins he "defends against FWs", if he loses (which is a real possibility since Ilia is a dangerous KO artist) he'll lose everything.

No one else besides Arman at LW, it makes sense to rebook that.

How is there nothing to gain?

A win over Ilia would literally be the best win on his resume.

 

[flektarn]

Vindictiveness? He was doing dumb shit with Nina and god knows what else and fumbled the main event on the day of the weigh-ins. He did this to himself.

 

[MrBlackheart]

The whole situation is very shitty for Islam but it doesn't matter whi he fights, he will show up as he always does.

I think Islam has the most haters hiding in the brush waiting to throw a parade after he loses.

 

[HHJ]

Arman screwed Arman

 

[MGS]

It is what it is. We lost even greater fights before, that never materialised. Dana runs this show. And you can't change his mind when its set. I was pumped for the Arman fight too and beyond pissed when he pulled out. Gotta move on.

 

[joy2day]

I think Islam has the most haters hiding in the brush waiting to throw a parade after he loses.

We aren't hiding in the bushes. I hope all of those bearded weirdies lose, and I have good reasons for feeling that way.

I will throw a Sherbro party at my house when Islam loses. Free beer.

 

[Ares Black]

Arman Tsarukyan has his title shot and he blew it. He dropped out the day before the fight.

There is no way he just gets another shot right away.