Economy The [Wall / Government Shutdown] Megathread

Would you approve of Trump using emergency powers to build his wall?

  • I'm a Trump supporter and I would support using emergency powers

    Votes: 19 20.7%

  • I'm a Trump supporter and I would not support use of emergency powers

    Votes: 7 7.6%

  • I'm not really a Trump supporter, but I would support him using emergency powers

    Votes: 6 6.5%

  • I'm not a Trump supporter. I don't support him using emergency powers to build a wall.

    Votes: 60 65.2%
  • Total voters
    92
  • Poll closed .
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MayhemMonkey said:
such as?

oh and no, I think Trump caved like the little bitch he is
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If he caves, he loses his base.
The termporary re-open is to take blame off himself when he shuts it down again after 3 weeks. This is his way of putting all the pressure on Dems by showing that he is in good faith reopening the government, assuming they get to a compromise. And if they don't at 3 weeks, he closes it down again.
 
Actually a clever move by Trump given he's currently not best positioned in terms of blame in public view.When nothing is agreed to for 3 weeks by the Democrats who asked to reopen the government to talk about the border funding, he shuts it down again and it will even longer than before. Then pressure is all on Dems to cave.
 
grizzard2bid said:
If he caves, he loses his base.
The termporary re-open is to take blame off himself when he shuts it down again after 3 weeks. This is his way of putting all the pressure on Dems by showing that he is in good faith reopening the government, assuming they get to a compromise. And if they don't at 3 weeks, he closes it down again.
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he's already caved. At first he was happy to let the shutdown run for years if need be. Now he is temporarily re-opening it because he realises he fucked up.

Face it, he is no master negotiator.... he's a fucking idiot
 
grizzard2bid said:
Actually a clever move by Trump given he's currently not best positioned in terms of blame in public view.When nothing is agreed to for 3 weeks by the Democrats who asked to reopen the government to talk about the border funding, he shuts it down again and it will even longer than before. Then pressure is all on Dems to cave.
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7 D chess.
 
grizzard2bid said:
Actually a clever move by Trump given he's currently not best positioned in terms of blame in public view.When nothing is agreed to for 3 weeks by the Democrats who asked to reopen the government to talk about the border funding, he shuts it down again and it will even longer than before. Then pressure is all on Dems to cave.
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Bingo. But TDS sufferers will never accept Trump can think that many moves ahead.

He'll also justify using emergency funding after caving before dems to look like he cares about the workers more. At the end of the day its trump that cared more about them, Dems would have let them suffer forever over .012 of the budget.
 
Tropodan said:
Bingo. But TDS sufferers will never accept Trump can think that many moves ahead.

He'll also justify using emergency funding after caving before dems to look like he cares about the workers more. At the end of the day its trump that cared more about them, Dems would have let them suffer forever over .012 of the budget.
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The emergency from a few months ago?
 
7437 said:
The emergency from a few months ago?
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Not the ongoing emergency at the border that's been occurring and well documented for the last 2 decades.

Lou Dobbs on CNN about 15 years ago was going nutts about and was silenced from CNN over it. Illegal immigration, crime, cartels, everything.

It's been an ongoing emergency ignored by globalist US politicians who seek to undermine US sovereignty and reward corporations with cheap labor.
 
Tropodan said:
Not the ongoing emergency at the border that's been occurring and well documented for the last 2 decades.

Lou Dobbs on CNN about 15 years ago was going nutts about and was silenced from CNN over it. Illegal immigration, crime, cartels, everything.

It's been an ongoing emergency ignored by globalist US politicians who seek to undermine US sovereignty and reward corporations with cheap labor.
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Definition of emergency


1: an unforeseen combination of circumstances or the resulting state that calls for immediate action
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Seems like it's not an emergency after decades. Seems like it's just a problem that needs to be addressed.
 
7437 said:
Seems like it's not an emergency after decades. Seems like it's just a problem that needs to be addressed.
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No it's an emergency partly induced by corrupts Dems and Globalists, tolerated by Republican corporates.
 
kahiljabroni said:
The left wanted to negotiate while the government is up and running. .he's giving them the opportunity to make good on that...or more likely to not...in which case he a. Proves they never intended to and b.can proceed like he would have anyway.
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Everyone with any sense already knows they are NOT going to negotiate, and they are obstructionists. It's something the D's are gloating about already. Another shutdown = another loss for Trump, and for all of us, really.

Trump fucked up REALLY badly on this one. Caving in was the worst thing he could do. He lost leverage. He lost momentum. He lost his balls to that cunt from CA. When he tries to use his constitutional powers to have the wall built, it will be obstructed again, and the 9th circuit will again shut him down just like they did with the travel bans. There's no way out for him now. And any American finding satisfaction in watching the country literally self-destruct is an imbecile.

Let's face facts. Congress and the Senate aren't here to help the people. They are there to pad their own pockets and push some kind of fucked up personal agendas, which is why we now have men in women's bathrooms, and wearing a MAGA hat is racist.

The media and obstructionists in the government are the definition of social and economic terrorists.

IF any good comes out of this, it's going to have people start questioning why is government involved in things like airport security and air traffic control instead of having private companies do it better?
 
How many bad people have crossed the border today?
 
I can't keep up with all this

so the government is open again or just temporarily???
 
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