Economy The [Wall / Government Shutdown] Megathread

[rearnakedchoke]

Just woke up and just wanted to make sure I understood.

So our military is now paying now for a useless wall that Trump promised Mexico was going to pay for. Is this winning and Maga?

Its funny. Even fox had this story buried because they are embarrassed trump went this route.

Still calling obama a community organizer while the reality tv star embarrasses the country.

 

[glenwo2]

Uh oh....I don't think Beto O' Rourke thought this through :

Did Beto’s border battlecry get the ball rolling on Dem 2020 litmus test?

Tear down that border wall: Is Beto's battlecry the new Dem litmus test for 2020?

Beto O’Rourke may have inadvertently got the ball rolling this week on an emerging litmus test for Democrats eyeing the White House in 2020 when he said he “absolutely” supports tearing down the existing barriers along the southern border with Mexico.

Since then, the other Democrats eyeing the 2020 Democratic nomination are facing calls to say whether they agree. And some are now expressing an openness to it, as they work to appeal to a liberal base that argues the wall is immoral.

“Curious to know if @KamalaHarris, @CoryBooker, @ewarren, @JulianCastro, @gillibrandny and @amyklobuchar agree with @BetoORourke that we should tear down the wall that already exists at the border?” tweeted Brad Parscale, Trump’s re-election campaign manager.



O’Rourke, the former Texas Democratic congressman and potential presidential candidate, called for the destruction of the El Paso wall after the White House said President Trump would declare a national state of emergency to fund the remainder of his border wall project.

During an interview in his hometown on Thursday, MSNBC host Chris Hayes asked O'Rourke: "If you could, would you take the wall down here -- knock it down?"

"Yes, absolutely," answered O'Rourke, who is widely thought to be a potential candidate in 2020 but has not formally announced his intention to run. "I'd take the wall down."

And on Friday, at least one Democrat in the 2020 field signaled they are open to it.

"I could look at it and see which part he means and why and if it makes sense I could support it,” New York Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand told Fox News in New Hampshire on Friday.

Meanwhile, Republicans expressed disbelief over O’Rourke’s comments, while signaling they believe they could use the issue to paint Democrats as extreme and pro-open borders.







While O’Rourke was the first likely 2020 presidential candidate to call for tearing down walls, other lesser-known Democrats in recent weeks have suggested they support the idea.

In an interview in January for example, Democratic Texas Rep. Veronica Escobar told CNN that "we know walls don't work, that they don't stop drugs, that they don't stop migration." Escobar also suggested she was open to destroying existing walls, remarking that they are "really ugly" and "monuments to division."

But not all Democrats have embraced the idea: House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., said during an interview on Fox News' "Special Report with Bret Baier" last month that border walls "obviously" work in some areas, and he rejected suggestions that barriers should be removed where they already exist.



>>> Yikes! I don't think using "Tear down that wall" (which was only good for the Berlin Wall situation) would be a wise thing to use as a 2020 Campaign slogan if you're the Democrats.
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[all caps]

If they think "tear the wall down" is going to get someone like me to vote for them, they are sadly mistaken.

 

[glenwo2]

If they think "tear the wall down" is going to get someone like me to vote for them, they are sadly mistaken.

They might as well put up a sign on them saying : "Vote for the Other guy, not me. "

 

[Mani]

Oh, is it? I’d never have guessed.

Thanks for explaining it to me though Dinlow

 

[Prokofievian]

If they think "tear the wall down" is going to get someone like me to vote for them, they are sadly mistaken.

How are you going to build a bigger better wall if you don't tear down the existing one first?

 

[andnowweknow]

How are you going to build a bigger better wall if you don't tear down the existing one first?

MAGA can just become #dontthink and this question need not be answered.

 

[glenwo2]

Oh, is it? I’d never have guessed.

Thanks for explaining it to me though Dinlow

Dinlow?

Seriously?

 

[glenwo2]

How are you going to build a bigger better wall if you don't tear down the existing one first?

Hmmm.....

But that's not what Beto is saying, though.

If he did say to replace it with a better one, I'd agree with you.

He wants there to be No Barrier at all.

 

[Prokofievian]

Hmmm.....

But that's not what Beto is saying, though.

If he did say to replace it with a better one, I'd agree with you.

He wants there to be No Barrier at all.

That's just what the (((GOP))) wants you to think. Vote Democrat in 2020 is dae wey!

 

[glenwo2]

That's just what the (((GOP))) wants you to think. Vote Democrat in 2020 is dae wey!

You heard him, @sniper !

Vote Blue.

You can trust them. Really.

 

[panamaican]

Just woke up and just wanted to make sure I understood.

So our military is now paying now for a useless wall that Trump promised Mexico was going to pay for. Is this winning and Maga?

Never forget that the money for this probably illegal venture is going to come out of military family housing funds. Why spend money on military housing when it can be re-directed to da wall.

 

[Lord of Lies]

Do a search on "Mexican Oxy", it's a huge problem in the Southwest now.

Do opiods get smuggled into the U.S.?

Not being a dick. Just seriously asking as I'm not that familiar with how they just show up in the States.

 

[COTUR1@43]

Do opiods get smuggled into the U.S.?

Not being a dick. Just seriously asking as I'm not that familiar with how they just show up in the States.

I think it is pretty well known that many people who get hooked on prescription opioids (when the prescription/supply runs out) turn to heroin which is imported (some via the southern border) and can be laced with fentanyl leading to a crisis in many states.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

And by Democrats he means the Constitution.

It's to the point that the Constitution except for the EC and the 2nd Amendment is a burden to what is the current Republican party.

The truth doesn't matter so long as what you're saying keeps the base loyal.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

It's his "Act like I was critical of Trump in a fair manner" camouflage.

Even a broken watch is right twice a day.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

Do opiods get smuggled into the U.S.?

Not being a dick. Just seriously asking as I'm not that familiar with how they just show up in the States.

Yes. From the poppy fields of Afghanistan to the pharmaceutical plants of China.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

You heard him, @sniper !

Vote Blue.

You can trust them. Really.

You can't trust them. You can only trust pathological liars.

 

[shockaholic12]

Uh oh....I don't think Beto O' Rourke thought this through :

Did Beto’s border battlecry get the ball rolling on Dem 2020 litmus test?

Tear down that border wall: Is Beto's battlecry the new Dem litmus test for 2020?

Beto O’Rourke may have inadvertently got the ball rolling this week on an emerging litmus test for Democrats eyeing the White House in 2020 when he said he “absolutely” supports tearing down the existing barriers along the southern border with Mexico.

Since then, the other Democrats eyeing the 2020 Democratic nomination are facing calls to say whether they agree. And some are now expressing an openness to it, as they work to appeal to a liberal base that argues the wall is immoral.

“Curious to know if @KamalaHarris, @CoryBooker, @ewarren, @JulianCastro, @gillibrandny and @amyklobuchar agree with @BetoORourke that we should tear down the wall that already exists at the border?” tweeted Brad Parscale, Trump’s re-election campaign manager.



O’Rourke, the former Texas Democratic congressman and potential presidential candidate, called for the destruction of the El Paso wall after the White House said President Trump would declare a national state of emergency to fund the remainder of his border wall project.

During an interview in his hometown on Thursday, MSNBC host Chris Hayes asked O'Rourke: "If you could, would you take the wall down here -- knock it down?"

"Yes, absolutely," answered O'Rourke, who is widely thought to be a potential candidate in 2020 but has not formally announced his intention to run. "I'd take the wall down."

And on Friday, at least one Democrat in the 2020 field signaled they are open to it.

"I could look at it and see which part he means and why and if it makes sense I could support it,” New York Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand told Fox News in New Hampshire on Friday.

Meanwhile, Republicans expressed disbelief over O’Rourke’s comments, while signaling they believe they could use the issue to paint Democrats as extreme and pro-open borders.







While O’Rourke was the first likely 2020 presidential candidate to call for tearing down walls, other lesser-known Democrats in recent weeks have suggested they support the idea.

In an interview in January for example, Democratic Texas Rep. Veronica Escobar told CNN that "we know walls don't work, that they don't stop drugs, that they don't stop migration." Escobar also suggested she was open to destroying existing walls, remarking that they are "really ugly" and "monuments to division."

But not all Democrats have embraced the idea: House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., said during an interview on Fox News' "Special Report with Bret Baier" last month that border walls "obviously" work in some areas, and he rejected suggestions that barriers should be removed where they already exist.



>>> Yikes! I don't think using "Tear down that wall" (which was only good for the Berlin Wall situation) would be a wise thing to use as a 2020 Campaign slogan if you're the Democrats.

If the folks of El Paso, the ones actually spending their lives on the border knowing vastly more than the keyboard warriors on a karate forum regarding whether the wall there works, say it doesn’t and they don’t want to waste taxes on its upkeep forever. Well, I would expect a smart person in government representing them to listen.

He never said all of the walls of barriers on the border, just that one location, but of course folks translate that to “dem calls for, derp, a completely open southern border”.

 

[Mani]

Dinlow?

Seriously?

Ahhhhhhhh maaaaaaaate!!!!!!!

What ave you got against Russell Howard maaaaaattttttte!!!!!!