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This is pretty cool. Shortly after filming his role on season 2, he was diagnosed with ALS and it has progressed pretty quickly to where he's now in a wheelchair. He will be getting a role as a human this time around on season 3.
 
Plenty of virtue-signalling going on about the new LGBT characters in STD season 3.





Yet again, the diversity first crowd who supports NuTrek is revealing the fact that they aren't real Trekkers.

Star Trek dealt with gender identity in most of the Trill-intensive storylines because every Trill with a symbiont had the experiences of living as the opposite gender in several past lifetimes.

They even dealt with gender identity in TOS with the Janice Leister episode.


...and not only did they have a non-binary character on TNG, but they introduced an entire non-binary civilization in The Outcast.




This is the essential problem with NuTrek. The people writing the new shows aren't fans of the franchise.
 
Phisher said:
Plenty of virtue-signalling going on about the new LGBT characters in STD season 3.





Yet again, the diversity first crowd who supports NuTrek is revealing the fact that they aren't real Trekkers.

Star Trek dealt with gender identity in most of the Trill-intensive storylines because every Trill with a symbiont had the experiences of living as the opposite gender in several past lifetimes.

They even dealt with gender identity in TOS with the Janice Leister episode.


...and not only did they have a non-binary character on TNG, but they introduced an entire non-binary civilization in The Outcast.




This is the essential problem with NuTrek. The people writing the new shows aren't fans of the franchise.
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Yeah, I beat you to that.
 
Phisher said:
Whoops. I just saw that story on my Twitter timeline and felt the urge to vent without even checking the thread.
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They think they invented moral messaging. [Real] Star Trek did it long before it was fashionable and used clever innuendo rather than overt virtue signaling that lacks creativity. The wrong people are in charge of Star Trek right now.
 
Philo-Publius said:
They think they invented moral messaging. [Real] Star Trek did it long before it was fashionable and used clever innuendo rather than overt virtue signaling that lacks creativity. The wrong people are in charge of Star Trek right now.
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The wrong people are in charge of pretty much every established entertainment franchise.

We've seen Star Wars, Star Trek and Doctor Who all get driven into the ground within a few years. It's mind-boggling.
 
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Sept 8th CBS is starting Star Trek day. Wil Wheaton will be hosting virtual panels, every half an hour with one of the star of there respective series.

#STARTREKDAY PANEL SCHEDULE
On September 8, join hosts Wil Wheaton and Mica Burton for 3-hours of FREE virtual panels and programming that will reunite iconic cast members and creative minds from nine “Star Trek” television series, here at StarTrek.com/Day, presented by CBS All Access. Please see below for more information. All times Pacific Time.

The panels begin at 12:00 PM PT with a Welcome and Intro remarks. Please see below for more information. All times Pacific Time.

PANEL #1
September 8, 2020 12:00 PM PDT
Star Trek: Discovery
The cast and writers of Star Trek: Discovery discuss what to expect in its upcoming third season, premiering October 15.
SCHEDULED TO APPEAR
Star Trek: Deep Space 9_v1
PANEL #2
September 8, 2020 12:30 PM PDT
Star Trek: Deep Space Nine
Host Wil Wheaton speaks with the DS9 cast about the series' arguably most famous episode, “Far Beyond the Stars,” along with other iconic episodes and the powerful messages they still hold today.
SCHEDULED TO APPEAR
Star Trek: Strange New Worlds
PANEL #3
September 8, 2020 1:00 PM PDT
Star Trek: Strange New Worlds
For the first time ever, the cast and writers of Star Trek: Strange New Worlds discuss the exciting upcoming adventures of Pike, Spock and Number One.
SCHEDULED TO APPEAR
Star Trek: TOS V1
PANEL #4
September 8, 2020 1:30 PM PDT
Star Trek: The Original Series
Host Wil Wheaton virtually sits down with George Takei and Rod Roddenberry to discuss the first episode of Star Trek and The Original Series’ continued impact on society both yesterday and today.
SCHEDULED TO APPEAR
Star Trek: Voyager
PANEL #5
September 8, 2020 2:00 PM PDT
Star Trek: Voyager - 25th Anniversary
Celebrate Star Trek: Voyager with the iconic cast as they discuss the legacy of the series 25 years since its premiere.
SCHEDULED TO APPEAR
Star Trek: ENT v1
PANEL #6
September 8, 2020 2:20 PM PDT
Star Trek: Enterprise
Scott Bakula and the cast of Star Trek: Enterprise recall the making of the adventures of the Enterprise NX-01 and its unique position in Star Trek history.
SCHEDULED TO APPEAR
Star Trek: Lower Decks
PANEL #7
September 8, 2020 2:40 PM PDT
Star Trek: Lower Decks
Host Mica Burton speaks with Mike McMahan and the cast of Star Trek: Lower Decks about what to expect for the rest of the first season.
SCHEDULED TO APPEAR
Star Trek: PIC v1
PANEL #8
September 8, 2020 3:05 PM PDT
Picard + The Next Generation
Stewart and Frakes. Picard and Number One. Two friends revisit their time across Star Trek
 
Philo-Publius said:
They think they invented moral messaging. [Real] Star Trek did it long before it was fashionable and used clever innuendo rather than overt virtue signaling that lacks creativity. The wrong people are in charge of Star Trek right now.
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Really its marketing for these people, just something to push a product not any real attachment to the politics.

You obviously get lots of revisionism but honestly Trek seems pushing it a bit far doesnt it? TNG era Trek was arguebly one of the most liberial shows on TV and as mentioned gender idenity amoug other things was very specifically addressed.
 
Phisher said:
Plenty of virtue-signalling going on about the new LGBT characters in STD season 3.





Yet again, the diversity first crowd who supports NuTrek is revealing the fact that they aren't real Trekkers.

Star Trek dealt with gender identity in most of the Trill-intensive storylines because every Trill with a symbiont had the experiences of living as the opposite gender in several past lifetimes.

They even dealt with gender identity in TOS with the Janice Leister episode.


...and not only did they have a non-binary character on TNG, but they introduced an entire non-binary civilization in The Outcast.




This is the essential problem with NuTrek. The people writing the new shows aren't fans of the franchise.
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CBS needs to clean house. Like having a black actor (Sisko) as the lead, this has already been done before, no virtue signaling either
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I always liked how Brooks saw things. Identity politics is cancer!
 
GtehMVP said:
CBS needs to clean house. Like having a black actor (Sisko) as the lead, this has already been done before, no virtue signaling either
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I always liked how Brooks saw things. Identity politics is cancer!
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Again I think the issue really is that the entertainment industry has picked up on the way tokenism has been used so heavily in politics in recent years, a way of selling someone/thing otherwise without a great deal of substance.

Perhaps because Trek actually birthed the Mary Sue concept it was IMHO quite resistant to it during the TNG era, Westley early on I spose could be argued but I spose but that wasnt really tied into any kind of tokenism.

The difference is when Trek delt with politics it actively delt with them, it didnt just resort to tokenism so you have an episode like Beyond the Stars with Brooks that does actually have something to say about race politics.
 
moreorless87 said:
Really its marketing for these people, just something to push a product not any real attachment to the politics.

You obviously get lots of revisionism but honestly Trek seems pushing it a bit far doesnt it? TNG era Trek was arguebly one of the most liberial shows on TV and as mentioned gender idenity amoug other things was very specifically addressed.
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There was some overt messaging in TNG, and other incarnations, but nothing as blatant and poorly delivered as nuTrek.
 
sverre054 said:


Sept 8th CBS is starting Star Trek day. Wil Wheaton will be hosting virtual panels, every half an hour with one of the star of there respective series.

#STARTREKDAY PANEL SCHEDULE
On September 8, join hosts Wil Wheaton and Mica Burton for 3-hours of FREE virtual panels and programming that will reunite iconic cast members and creative minds from nine “Star Trek” television series, here at StarTrek.com/Day, presented by CBS All Access. Please see below for more information. All times Pacific Time.

The panels begin at 12:00 PM PT with a Welcome and Intro remarks. Please see below for more information. All times Pacific Time.

PANEL #1
September 8, 2020 12:00 PM PDT
Star Trek: Discovery
The cast and writers of Star Trek: Discovery discuss what to expect in its upcoming third season, premiering October 15.
SCHEDULED TO APPEAR
Star Trek: Deep Space 9_v1
PANEL #2
September 8, 2020 12:30 PM PDT
Star Trek: Deep Space Nine
Host Wil Wheaton speaks with the DS9 cast about the series' arguably most famous episode, “Far Beyond the Stars,” along with other iconic episodes and the powerful messages they still hold today.
SCHEDULED TO APPEAR
Star Trek: Strange New Worlds
PANEL #3
September 8, 2020 1:00 PM PDT
Star Trek: Strange New Worlds
For the first time ever, the cast and writers of Star Trek: Strange New Worlds discuss the exciting upcoming adventures of Pike, Spock and Number One.
SCHEDULED TO APPEAR
Star Trek: TOS V1
PANEL #4
September 8, 2020 1:30 PM PDT
Star Trek: The Original Series
Host Wil Wheaton virtually sits down with George Takei and Rod Roddenberry to discuss the first episode of Star Trek and The Original Series’ continued impact on society both yesterday and today.
SCHEDULED TO APPEAR
Star Trek: Voyager
PANEL #5
September 8, 2020 2:00 PM PDT
Star Trek: Voyager - 25th Anniversary
Celebrate Star Trek: Voyager with the iconic cast as they discuss the legacy of the series 25 years since its premiere.
SCHEDULED TO APPEAR
Star Trek: ENT v1
PANEL #6
September 8, 2020 2:20 PM PDT
Star Trek: Enterprise
Scott Bakula and the cast of Star Trek: Enterprise recall the making of the adventures of the Enterprise NX-01 and its unique position in Star Trek history.
SCHEDULED TO APPEAR
Star Trek: Lower Decks
PANEL #7
September 8, 2020 2:40 PM PDT
Star Trek: Lower Decks
Host Mica Burton speaks with Mike McMahan and the cast of Star Trek: Lower Decks about what to expect for the rest of the first season.
SCHEDULED TO APPEAR
Star Trek: PIC v1
PANEL #8
September 8, 2020 3:05 PM PDT
Picard + The Next Generation
Stewart and Frakes. Picard and Number One. Two friends revisit their time across Star Trek
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LOL Shatner is pissed about the fact that he wasn't invited to participate in this and the fact that he was given the smallest profile on the promo poster.










Although, given his recent dust up with the pro-trans crowd, I can't say that I'm surprised.
 
Phisher said:
LOL Shatner is pissed about the fact that he wasn't invited to participate in this and the fact that he was given the smallest profile on the promo poster.










Although, given his recent dust up with the pro-trans crowd, I can't say that I'm surprised.
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Of course, they invited George instead. lol
 
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