Television The Star Trek Thread V6.0

It was the darkest and most realistic spin off, and the one that strayed the most from the original formula.

That episode In the Pale Moonlight is how you do a dark take on Star Trek right - not whatever incomprehensible garbage is going on with Discovery or the Picard series. The difference is in the pace of the show and the quality of the writing.
 
Kira bothered me early on, but she was awesome as she grew into the character.

Plus, Nana Visitor in those tight ass uniforms, hmmm.

It's funny, I never found her attractive when the show was on the air. Now that I'm older, she looks like a snack to me.

 
I watched Undiscovered Country this morning. I love the ending, where a 300lb, 75 year old Scotty, kicks down a door and shoots and kills a Klingon Assasin. Picture of peak health and fitness in the 24th Century. Jimmy Doohan did have a bunch of confirmed kills in WWII, so you gotta give him that...

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I watched Undiscovered Country this morning. I love the ending, where a 300lb, 75 year old Scotty, kicks down a door and shoots and kills a Klingon Assasin. Picture of peak health and fitness in the 24th Century. Jimmy Doohan did have a bunch of confirmed kills in WWII, so you gotta give him that...

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Always really appreciated Star Trek VI. The writing and pacing were great, I enjoyed how they turned it into a political murder mystery whodunnit in space. And I was honestly surprised by the twist that Polaris was on the side of the warmongers.

It was a good sendoff for the TOS crew. The end credits when the actors' signatures each flash across the screen as a goodbye still makes me sentimental.
 
I watched Undiscovered Country this morning. I love the ending, where a 300lb, 75 year old Scotty, kicks down a door and shoots and kills a Klingon Assasin. Picture of peak health and fitness in the 24th Century. Jimmy Doohan did have a bunch of confirmed kills in WWII, so you gotta give him that...

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Certainly a better way of remebering him than this:
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So I’m going to give some credit where I think it’s due and actually say that I kind of liked some parts the third episode of Lower Decks. I like that the premise behind the episode can find its roots from this short exchange between Scotty and Kirk from the beginning of Star Trek III



Ironically I’ve complained about the show having too much fan service but in this one instance I’m kind of surprised that for once they didn’t go that route and find it out that they did not specifically give any kind of shout out to Scotty for the whole overestimating how long jobs would take scheme.

Anyway, seeing the crew trying to adapt once the Captain was onto this scam was kind of funny.

The other part that legitimately got some laughs out of me was when the first officer got in the fight with the alien and did nothing but the classic Star Trek “double fist” move that was a cornerstone of fights for TOS, TNG and DS9.

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The commander does this move like 30 times on the alien and kicks the shit out it.
 
So I’m going to give some credit where I think it’s due and actually say that I kind of liked some parts the third episode of Lower Decks. I like that the premise behind the episode can find its roots from this short exchange between Scotty and Kirk from the beginning of Star Trek III



Ironically I’ve complained about the show having too much fan service but in this one instance I’m kind of surprised that for once they didn’t go that route and find it out that they did not specifically give any kind of shout out to Scotty for the whole overestimating how long jobs would take scheme.

Anyway, seeing the crew trying to adapt once the Captain was onto this scam was kind of funny.

The other part that legitimately got some laughs out of me was when the first officer got in the fight with the alien and did nothing but the classic Star Trek “double fist” move that was a cornerstone of fights for TOS, TNG and DS9.

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The commander does this move like 30 times on the alien and kicks the shit out it.



I haven't seen the third episode yet, just read a critical review on trekmovie.com. They thought it was the weakest of the three episodes so far and especially criticized (without going too deep into spoiler territory) the role of an allen race that was too assholish to realistically be invited to the federation. Again haven't seen it, your take?
 
I haven't seen the third episode yet, just read a critical review on trekmovie.com. They thought it was the weakest of the three episodes so far and especially criticized (without going too deep into spoiler territory) the role of an allen race that was too assholish to realistically be invited to the federation. Again haven't seen it, your take?

Well, if the shows trying to be a comedy first and foremost this was the only one so far to make me laugh whatsoever. I didn’t even smile at all through the first two episodes. So for that reason alone I’ll say it was a much better episode than the first two.

Never heard of that site but if they’re complaining that much about about the believability of the plot of some silly cartoon what do they think of Discovery and Picard??
 
Always really appreciated Star Trek VI. The writing and pacing were great, I enjoyed how they turned it into a political murder mystery whodunnit in space. And I was honestly surprised by the twist that Polaris was on the side of the warmongers.

It was a good sendoff for the TOS crew. The end credits when the actors' signatures each flash across the screen as a goodbye still makes me sentimental.
I do love those closing credits
 
I haven't seen the third episode yet, just read a critical review on trekmovie.com. They thought it was the weakest of the three episodes so far and especially criticized (without going too deep into spoiler territory) the role of an allen race that was too assholish to realistically be invited to the federation. Again haven't seen it, your take?
I actually thought episodes 3 was the funniest yet. The last scene is hilarious. The episodes actually tell a morale of the story, pretty effectively in a half an hour.
 
Well, if the shows trying to be a comedy first and foremost this was the only one so far to make me laugh whatsoever. I didn’t even smile at all through the first two episodes. So for that reason alone I’ll say it was a much better episode than the first two.

Never heard of that site but if they’re complaining that much about about the believability of the plot of some silly cartoon what do they think of Discovery and Picard??
Did you ever read the Obrien Web Comics, Chief O'Brien at work? I loved it.
https://chiefobrienatwork.com/
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I watched Undiscovered Country this morning. I love the ending, where a 300lb, 75 year old Scotty, kicks down a door and shoots and kills a Klingon Assasin. Picture of peak health and fitness in the 24th Century. Jimmy Doohan did have a bunch of confirmed kills in WWII, so you gotta give him that...

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It's all muscle.
 
Haha, yeah I’ve seen that before. Didn’t realize that the very ending was referencing it as opposed to just making reference to O’Brien in his TNG days in a more general sense.
The show runner, ran a very popular Twitter account called season8tng, where him and his team would tweet out the goings ons of the crw during a hypothetical season 8. It was so popular CBS made a book of them.
 
So I’m going to give some credit where I think it’s due and actually say that I kind of liked some parts the third episode of Lower Decks. I like that the premise behind the episode can find its roots from this short exchange between Scotty and Kirk from the beginning of Star Trek III



Ironically I’ve complained about the show having too much fan service but in this one instance I’m kind of surprised that for once they didn’t go that route and find it out that they did not specifically give any kind of shout out to Scotty for the whole overestimating how long jobs would take scheme.

Anyway, seeing the crew trying to adapt once the Captain was onto this scam was kind of funny.

The other part that legitimately got some laughs out of me was when the first officer got in the fight with the alien and did nothing but the classic Star Trek “double fist” move that was a cornerstone of fights for TOS, TNG and DS9.

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The commander does this move like 30 times on the alien and kicks the shit out it.

My biggest takeaway from Lower decks, is there is room to have fun in the star trek world. It's a comedy show, but the episodes still tell a Star Trek story, in a fun, new way.

I actually have a friend who has never watched Star Trek, and happened to see an episode of Lower Decks. He has loved all the episodes, and has now started binging TNG.
 
I watched Undiscovered Country this morning. I love the ending, where a 300lb, 75 year old Scotty, kicks down a door and shoots and kills a Klingon Assasin. Picture of peak health and fitness in the 24th Century. Jimmy Doohan did have a bunch of confirmed kills in WWII, so you gotta give him that...

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The assassin was actually Odo disguised as a human, disguised as a Klingon.

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My biggest takeaway from Lower decks, is there is room to have fun in the star trek world.

How is that anything new? Star Trek has always had a sense of humor, dating back to the original series. Even Next Gen, for all its diplomacy and idealism and important speeches, had a lot of funny moments.





The point is, fun doesn't have to come at the expense of quality writing.
 
The assassin was actually Odo disguised as a human, disguised as a Klingon.

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One inconsistency that really bugged me about DS9 was that Odo didn't have the shapeshifting skills to mimic a person, but he could turn into a table, a chair, a mist, or anything else you could imagine. He just couldn't swing becoming a person. It made no sense.
 
One inconsistency that really bugged me about DS9 was that Odo didn't have the shapeshifting skills to mimic a person, but he could turn into a table, a chair, a mist, or anything else you could imagine. He just couldn't swing becoming a person. It made no sense.

If you think about it, it makes perfect sense? Does a table have dozens of facial muscles?
 
One inconsistency that really bugged me about DS9 was that Odo didn't have the shapeshifting skills to mimic a person, but he could turn into a table, a chair, a mist, or anything else you could imagine. He just couldn't swing becoming a person. It made no sense.




The explanation was that he was a younger changeling and not that adept with the ability yet.

They should've had him develop the skill to properly mimic humanoids over the series.
 
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