THE REPORT, buttoned up (SCO Thread v. 33)

[glenwo2]

Sure. He was just musing about how special counsels always charge innocent people.

I wonder if you guys even believe the shit you post.

Funny....I was wondering the same thing about you.

I know right.

Also, Trump TRIED to fire Mueller, but failed.

It's all very.............beyond comical and fucking sad.

What do you mean by "TRIED to fire Mueller"?

There was no such attempt EVER MADE.

What the fuck, man?

 

[King in the North]

Then we have the sentence immediately following that :

"Everyone tells me if you get one of these independent counsels it ruins your presidency. It takes years and years and I won't be able to do anything."

But let's ignore that so we can go "hurr hurr....words of a man...hurr hurr...done nothing wrong...", right?


Sorry King, but that is one Royal Decree you failed to deliver accurately.

B-b-but what he really meant was...

Save it. You can only excuse what I posted if you’re that far up Trump’s ass that he can do no wrong. Innocent men don’t say shit like that. I’m shocked you guys are putting up with this (maybe not that shocked).

Care to defend his multiple attempts to fire Mueller, too? Another totally innocent act, right?

 

[glenwo2]

Only reason he didn't blatantly obstruct is because the adults in the room refused to carry out his orders. Pretty sad when you have to be saved from yourself

Well that's kind of....you know...the JOB of having advisors?

Too bad you have no advisors on how to fucking post without it being full of shit, you fucking clown.

 

[King in the North]

Funny....I was wondering the same thing about you.






What do you mean by "TRIED to fire Mueller"?

There was no such attempt EVER MADE.

What the fuck, man?

You should at least read a summary of the Mueller report (not written by Barr) before you post this because it’s mentioned numerous times.

 

[King in the North]

Only reason he didn't blatantly obstruct is because the adults in the room refused to carry out his orders. Pretty sad when you have to be saved from yourself

Pretty good argument he did blatantly obstruct justice if we’re being honest. He just can’t be indicted. Which we already knew.

 

[zebby23]

The only thing they are willing to discuss is the phrase "no collusion." Try to talk about how collusion isn't a criminal offense, gets ignored. Try and talk about obstruction of justice that Mueller lays out, gets ignored.

100% correct. They say, Trump didn't directly collude with Russia so he is innocent of all charges. Dumb libs stop whining.

They seem to ignore
"[W]hile this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him," Barr quotes from Mueller's report.

 

[vengeful]

Well that's kind of....you know...the JOB of having advisors?

Too bad you have no advisors on how to fucking post without it being full of shit.

That's not having advisors, that's having babysitters. Damn shame a president needs coddling just to avoid breaking the law.

lol you idiots really were thinking it was treason when the adults in his administration were hiding papers from this idiot so he wouldn't fuck the country completely up because he thinks he's smarter than everyone else.

 

[MFIC]

Previous account name? Ripwarrior?

Do you automatically assume that about every new account? Did anyone ask you that when you were new? This might be hard to fathom, but literally every account in the history of sherdog had a beginning. Mind blowing, huh?

 

[glenwo2]

Pretty good argument he did blatantly obstruct justice if we’re being honest. He just can’t be indicted. Which we already knew.

Whatever you say, pal.

Keep Hope Alive, as they say.

 

[DragRacer]

“Oh my god. This is terrible. This is the end of my Presidency. I’m fucked.”


Words of a man who has done nothing wrong, right?

 

[glenwo2]

That's not having advisors, that's having babysitters. Damn shame a president needs coddling just to avoid breaking the law.

lol you idiots really were thinking it was treason when the adults in his administration were hiding papers from this idiot so he wouldn't fuck the country completely up because he thinks he's smarter than everyone else.

Well he's President and you're not so I guess he's smarter than you at least.

 

[kpt018]

Mueller report, page 10:

[T]he investigation established that interactions between Russian ambassador Kislyak and Trump Campaign officials both at the candidate's April 2016 foreign policy speech in Washington, D.C., and during the week of the Republican National Convention were brief, public, and non-substantive. And the investigation did not establish that one Campaign official's efforts to dilute a portion of the Republican Party platform on providing assistance to Ukraine were undertaken at the behest of candidate Trump or Russia. The investigation also did not establish that a meeting between Kislyak and Sessions in September 2016 at Sessions's Senate office included any more than a passing mention of the presidential campaign.

Link to the full Mueller report: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/04/18/us/politics/mueller-report-document.html
@kpt018
@andnowweknow
@BarryDillon
@Joe

Oh geez, I remember when certain posters in this thread cited the Kislyak meetings as clear evidence of collusion. Also I remember that @Jack V Savage was convinced that the Republican platform was changed at the behest of Russia.

Hey, I noticed you stopped mentioning me. Did you get to the part about obstruction? Or the parts where Trump and his team are highly unethical and incompetent but didn't commit a criminal conspiracy basically because a few people said no to Trump??

I'm curious if you still think the report is good for Trump (if you've had enough time to digest it of course). I think it's a complete disaster. And Trump isn't behaving as if it's good for him (still slamming Mueller and the whole investigation).

 

[King in the North]

Whatever you say, pal.

Again, you should try to give an objective summary a shot. Or read the damn thing yourself.

 

[MFIC]

Thank god you created an account yesterday in order to post this. The war room was really lacking in this sort of commentary.

Thank god you created an account 14 years ago to post this. The war room definitely was not lacking this sort of commentary.

 

[Darkballs]

Funny....I was wondering the same thing about you.

Then I'm sure you'll have no problems showing repeated instances of Special Counsels indicting innocent people, since that's what you claim trump was referring to.

 

[King in the North]

Remember when all the cult 45 members paraded around here before we actually got the report?

Weird how they were so excited by the blatant corruption and nepotism. This report is damming, but NO COLLUSION—La-La-La.

This is the most corrupt administration in US history and it’s not particularly close.

 

[zebby23]

Trump, completely innocent.

“I’M F---ED”: TRUMP FELT MUELLER APPOINTMENT WOULD BE “END OF MY PRESIDENCY”

The report says McGahn decided to resign after Trump told him “Mueller has to go" — a request McGahn told colleagues was "crazy shit" (my personal favorite)

"Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing," Trump said. "I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press."

Mueller wrote in his report that only five hours later, members of a key Russian intelligence unit “targeted for the first time Clinton’s personal office.

Mueller wrote in the report that Trump’s written responses to his team’s questions were “incomplete or imprecise” and, on the whole, “inadequate.”

Nevertheless, Mueller said he declined to subpoena the president after having “weighed the costs of potentially lengthy constitutional litigation, with resulting delay in finishing our investigation, against the anticipated benefits for our investigation and report.”

In a section that had been previewed by Barr weeks earlier, Mueller wrote in his conclusion that his report does not draw “ultimate conclusions” about Trump’s conduct, due to "the facts and the applicable legal standards."

A key passage in the Mueller report makes clear that Trump had made efforts to affect the Russia investigation, but that they were “mostly unsuccessful” largely because top players surrounding Trump — including then-FBI Director James Comey, then-White House Counsel Don McGahn and former campaign manager Corey Lewandowski — didn’t follow his requests.

Amid increasing — and increasingly fierce — attacks from Trump, then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions decided that he should be prepared to resign his post at any time. So, in late July 2017, after another dressing down from Trump, Sessions prepared a resignation letter “and for the rest of the year carried it with him in his pocket every time he went to the White House.”

After Trump said in July 2016 that he hoped Russia would “find the 30,000 emails that are missing," the then-candidate asked individuals affiliated with his campaign to find the deleted Clinton emails.

Future national security adviser Michael Flynn charged “multiple” campaign supporters — Barbara Ledeen and Peter Smith — to help find them.

Mueller’s report said no one ever gained access to the emails.

 

[glenwo2]

Again, you should try to give an objective summary a shot. Or read the damn thing yourself.

I get all the information I need from here, both from the clowns (guess who I'm talking about) and from those who have actual brains and common sense. Plus, there's also social media that covers it, too.

I'm not about to sit and read over 400 plus pages(minus the redacted ones).

 

[BarryDillon]

Good point. The most generous reading of Mueller's report shows Trump and team to be highly unethical and massively incompetent. They knew that Russia wanted to help the campaign and they were awesome with it and of course didn't report it to the authorities. Even if Mueller could not bring a criminal case for these actions it's about a thousand times more than we need to know Trump is unfit for president.

And it's pretty clear that Mueller believes a case can certainly be brought against the president on obstruction and was clear that he is not protected after he leaves office. And he states strongly that Congress can make the case.

Unfortunately, the Democrats have gone full, "Sir Robin" once again.

 

[glenwo2]

Then I'm sure you'll have no problems showing repeated instances of Special Counsels indicting innocent people, since that's what you claim trump was referring to.

I believe (keyword : Believe) that Roger Stone is innocent and that he was strong-armed into lying to Congress.

 

[kpt018]

Unfortunately, the Democrats have gone full, "Sir Robin" once again.

LOL! Yeah I noticed he was mentioning me every few minutes (which is cool, I'm not complaining) but it suddenly stopped. I bet he realized it's way worse than he thought.