THE REPORT, buttoned up (SCO Thread v. 33)

[zebby23]

Mueller is not guilty of treason. Trump has not accused Mueller of treason. Trump does not have the ability to arrest Mueller.

Trump doesn’t even know what Treason is

 

[Problem Child]

do people seriously think anything will come out of this? lol when will people learn Trump isn't getting impeached lol

When he gets re-elected.

 

[andnowweknow]

No, the point is that there was never an adequate basis to begin the investigation, and the investigation itself has ultimately substantiated this criticism.

So you have no interest in confronting all the obvious crazy illegal behavior regarding obstruction?

If the Steele Dossier shit is all you have, you have nothing. It's a distraction from the obviously inappropriate behavior now proven throughout the report.

So just say you don't want to talk about the report and that all the stuff in it doesn't matter. That would be an honest position.

 

[xcvbn]

Mueller is not guilty of treason. Trump has not accused Mueller of treason. Trump does not have the ability to arrest Mueller.

He's putting forth the notion that he was framed by Mueller. Is that not illegal to do?

Trump, Barr, whatever. Trump can order Mueller's arrest if he wanted.

 

[glenwo2]

You have got to be a relative of Seth, Homer. <[analyzed}>

 

[glenwo2]

Time for Congress to do its fucking job.

Time for the Senate to do ITS job, you mean.

 

[andnowweknow]

Mueller is not guilty of treason. Trump has not accused Mueller of treason. Trump does not have the ability to arrest Mueller.

Yes he did. Or better yet, you tell me who the trsason comments were about if not Mueller.

 

[hillelslovak87]

Well Congress is Dem controlled with plenty of Trump haters even on the GOP side. Want to bet if they actually attempt it or is this just another desperation heave?

I doubt they would try, as of now. Trump is currently in a position where it can only get worse when it comes to revelations of his behavior from the Mueller report are further parsed, and the presence of over a dozen other investigations probing all facets of his business and financial career.

I say they don't move to impeach, bank on being able to beat him in a general election before propping up Beto or some such empty bag and losing to Trump. Shit would get very weird at that point, considering the spiraling nature of his cabinet, relations with congress, and his administration generally.

 

[MikeMcMann]

Mueller had two years and massive resources with which to demonstrate it. He failed, because there was never any reasonable basis to the accusation, which was clear from the beginning. Of course Trump never colluded with Russia, only very naive people failed to understand that Mueller's investigation was never anything other than a fishing expedition. However, I will admit it is shocking that Mueller failed to expose any other significant skeletons in Trump's closet. I like most people assume he's got more than his fair share.

Lets stick to what you said shall we and ignore the attempt to spin away.

Absolutely Trump should have been angry with Sessions. It was clear that there was nothing to the Russian collusion story years ago, but Sessions allowed a two year fishing expedition continue on a flimsy basis.

First off have you read the Mueller Mandate or do you need me to post it? Particularly the FIRST point of the investigation.

If you have do you maintain the position that session allowed a fishing expedition where there was nothing to do with Russia?

If you do you deny that Russians were meddling in the election? That Manafort's involvement with the Russians as Trumps campaign chair and think that being outed was simply fishing?

it is undeniable that:

- Russia was meddling in the election
- Manafort and others in the Trump campaign had all sorts of links and coordination with Russia
- That Trump and most of his key Campaign people were lying constantly about 'links' and/or 'coordination' with Russia


There is no instance where any one of the 3 above points SHOULD NOT be investigated fully. If you disagree tell me which point is not worthy of investigation?


People on this forum seem to make the mistake of thinking investigations are only justified if they result in guilt. That is false. Investigations can be justified to determine if one is guilty OR NOT.

 

[HereticBD]

People on this forum seem to make the mistake of thinking investigations are only justified if they result in guilt. That is false. Investigations can be justified to determine if one is guilty OR NOT.

And despite being conducted under false and illegal means, the latter was proven. Next.

 

[glenwo2]

From the trump friendly(lol) Washington post

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...eller-report-is-out-other-shoe-may-drop-soon/

Yet to come is Barr’s probe of how this all began, with what he has said might have been “spying” on the Trump campaign in 2016. Already in the works is a Justice Department inspector general report involving the notorious Christopher Steele dossier. Those who spend the next few weeks making political hay with the Mueller report should keep in mind the other shoe that may well be dropping soon.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Of course I can defend Barr. He did a fine job.

It's not a "defense" of his objectively false claims to just say that you're a party loyalist who will support anything any Republican does. The report details extensive corruption from the administration, including collusion with a hostile foreign gov't that was trying to advance its own interests (and hurt ours) by committing crimes. And Barr egregiously misled the findings in his summary and comments. There isn't really any argument against those claims.

 

[glenwo2]

The Special Counsel found no collusion.

The "Special" Counsel lead by Seth Abramson says otherwise...

LOL.

Seth "Short Bus" Abramson

 

[HereticBD]

Seth "Short Bus" Abramson

*Seth "HomerThompson" Abramson

 

[MikeMcMann]

And despite being conducted under false and illegal means, the latter was proven. Next.

You are a troll and stupid one if you think the Mueller investigation was false and illegal. It was fully authorized and supported by none other than Lindsey Graham and done so based on GP and his comments while drinking too much.

 

[HereticBD]

You are a troll and stupid

The response of a totally not salty individual...

 

[waiguoren]

He's putting forth the notion that he was framed by Mueller. Is that not illegal to do?

Which statute does it violate?

Trump can order Mueller's arrest if he wanted.

Not really. A judge would need to issue an arrest warrant.

 

[HereticBD]

Hey @MikeMcMann, what happened to those "collusion" charges Mueller already filed?

Edit - "Collusion" charges Mueller ALREADY filed.

 

[glenwo2]

Oh' look, he's using "daddy" now...

You're slippin' Jackie Boy.

Considering that Hillary is his "mommy", what did you expect?

 

[MikeMcMann]

The response of a totally not salty individual...

You are saying Lindsey Graham was part of a criminal conspiracy now in a desperate attempt to defend all things Trump.

i mean, you can argue over the findings but to be so desperate as to try and spin it as the investigation was illegal. That they did not have reasons and get it properly constituted flies against all facts. But you don't care about facts, do you? Just deny everything for daddy.