Law The DOGE JIG is almost up

So Clinton issued an executive order almost a year before Congress pass HR3345.

Dems are just pissed that we're finding out where all this borrowed Chinese money is going.

The EO was simply a broad directive—there were no specific cuts or buyouts until Congress authorized them. Clinton’s commission spent 6 months observing, investigating, and studying agencies and departments to see how to actually truly make them more efficient, and to determine what and how much could be cut without crippling the country.
—All things that DOGE didn’t do.
And they didn’t do it because Trump doesn’t care about the country. He cares about himself.
 
Trump Might Actually Dump Elon After Embarrassing Defeat in Wisconsin
The billionaire oligarch's money failed to buy a judge on Tuesday.
https://gizmodo.com/trump-might-act...r-embarrassing-defeat-in-wisconsin-2000584124

"But only time will tell whether Musk is actually kicked to the curb. Even if he left tomorrow, he’s already done enormous damage to the country by destroying USAID and firing tens of thousands of people across federal agencies. The average American may not understand it yet, but Musk’s actions will be felt for generations to come, as the U.S. surrenders its position as a world leader. As soon as the average American does figure it out, it will be way too late to do anything about it. But Musk doesn’t have to worry, he’s got plenty of contracts around the world to prop up his wealth."
 

Now We Know Why Elon Musk’s DOGE Seized That Independent Nonprofit

The Department of Government Efficiency is trying to claim the multimillion-dollar real estate assets of the U.S. Institute of Peace.

https://newrepublic.com/post/193424/elon-musk-doge-usip-nonprofit-seize-building

DOGE Is Trying to Gift Itself a $500 Million Building, Court Filings Show

The documents reveal a DOGE affiliate is attempting to transfer the headquarters of an independent think tank, the United States Institute of Peace, to the government at no cost.
https://www.wired.com/story/doge-takes-control-usip-office-building/

Federal Judge Allows DOGE to Take Over $500 Million Office Building for Free

It’s the culmination of a weeks-long standoff between Elon Musk’s DOGE team and the United States Institute of Peace.
https://www.wired.com/story/judge-approves-doge-usip-office-building/

Didn't the govt pay for that building?
 
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Yeah, that was you I see.
 
Ultimately the proof is in the pudding. Clinton turned a $290B deficit in 1992 to a $236B surplus when he left office in 2000.

If you think what Trump/Elon are doing now is similar, then do you think we can expect a similar result when Trump he leaves office?

No; we're 37t in debt. Trump needs to cut spending and raise taxes, but he won't do that.
 
You're still being intentionally dishonest.

The review process alone for Clinton's cuts took longer than Trump has been in office. His EOs were directives to begin the process to review and recommend cuts which were then proposed to Congress. They weren't immediate. The workforce reduction took place over years, not weeks. The buyout plan funding was approved by Congress and signed into law.

The law being broke is the Constitution. The President has no authority over budget items already signed into law.

We are 37 trillion in debt - it's time to get drastic.
 
Didn't the govt pay for that building?
"In 2004, Congress authorized $100 million for construction of USIP's headquarters, in part due to the efforts of Republican Senator Ted Stevens of Alaska, while the institute was required to raise the remaining $86 million. The funds raised by USIP included a $10 million donation from Chevron Corporation. Another corporate donor to the building fund, defense contractor Lockheed Martin, was named a "Founding Corporate Partner" after donating $1 million."
-Wikipedia

"USIP’s global peace-building operations are funded through annual federal appropriations. In 2004, Congress appropriated $99 million for a new headquarters. The remainder of the needed funding was to be developed privately. What is unique about USIP’s real estate strategy is that it used a mix of federal funding, $30 million raised from private donors, and a $50 million bank line of credit to enable the construction of the 254,000-square-foot (23,500 sq m) complex."

https://urbanland.uli.org/development-business/united-states-institute-of-peace-headquarters
 

Remember the IRS workers "fired" for cost cutting?

They were never fired. They were paid fully to sit at home on administrative leave. Now they're being recalled with the April 15th tax deadline because the people remaining at the IRS can't handle the workload of tax season without being fully staffed.

The gaps in coverage have already helped tax cheats scam the system

 

Remember the IRS workers "fired" for cost cutting?

They were never fired. They were paid fully to sit at home on administrative leave. Now they're being recalled with the April 15th tax deadline because the people remaining at the IRS can't handle the workload of tax season without being fully staffed.

The gaps in coverage have already helped tax cheats scam the system

I can't imagine anyone defending this, but the day is young.
 
I'm not sure if this was DOGE, but regardless this administration has frozen funds that farmers in my state were counting on. In a red state farmers are getting bent over no lube by Trump.

 
Musk is cancelling contracts by the billions and claiming the cancellations as "savings". But who are the new contracts being awarded to and for how much?

DOGE’s private contract crackdown has eliminated more than 120 Deloitte contracts—more than twice the amount of any other consultancy

https://fortune.com/2025/04/03/doge-private-contract-crackdown-deloitte-consultancies/

"Though DOGE claims to have saved a total of $140 billion, not all of it is true savings, according to Bank of America. The advisory group has “overstated” its savings by failing to account for new contracts and inflating the value of other cancelled contracts, according to the bank. Other contracts listed on the DOGE Wall of Receipts were cancelled before Trump took office or ended naturally, The New York Times reported."
 

Thanks to The Freedom of Information Act, Elon Mussk will finally have to cough up his evidence of "fraud and corruption" in the next few weeks.

Whether he complies with this order, remains to be seen. So far no evidence has been offered to justify the firing of inspectors general, the closing of departments, the defunding of multiple public programs and the aggessive dismantling of essential social services.


The Trump administration's first weeks saw a wave of firings, including more than 17 inspectors general, independent watchdogs overseeing government waste, fraud and abuse. These actions have already prompted a lawsuit challenging their legality and ongoing protests outside federal buildings.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/i...y-trump-issue-warning-about-lack-of-oversight



Treasury watchdog launches audit of DOGE access to federal government’s payment system​

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politi...-access-to-federal-governments-payment-system

Judge orders urgent release of DOGE records, citing ‘unprecedented’ power and ‘unusual secrecy’

It’s the first significant ruling in a growing legal push to pierce DOGE’s secretive veil, a decision that undercuts Musk’s repeated insistence about the operation’s transparency.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/10/judge-orders-doge-record-release-00223151


Judge orders DOGE to comply with FOIA requests

Trump officials have argued that records from the government efficiency initiative fall under the Presidential Records Act, which can temporarily shield information from public scrutiny.

https://www.govexec.com/oversight/2025/03/judge-orders-doge-comply-foia-requests/403660/


So far, the Project 2025 Tracker has provided more transparency than DOGE itself.
https://www.project2025.observer/
Do you actually doubt any corruption?
 
Thought this article made some sense ~

Why Democrats Hate DOGE and Love Waste​


If you haven't watched the Bret Baier interviews on Fox News with Elon Musk and the other executives who have given their time and expertise to exposing the rampant fraud and inefficiency of our federal government, I urge you to do so.



It will infuriate you -- and that's what we need right now.

These Department of Government Efficiency volunteers are on a patriotic mission to repair our ship of state. They are hunting down the rats and scoundrels who have played us (we the taxpayers) for fools for so many years. It's the greatest robbery -- more than $1 trillion of fraud and corruption -- in world history.

Yet too many Democrats are reacting as though Musk himself is the scoundrel.

The "Musk-ateers" have marked nearly 10 million Social Security recipients over the age of 120 as deceased. (How many monthly checks were sent out?) How about $10 billion in rent for empty office buildings? Hundreds of millions of dollars for foreign aid programs that went to "nongovernmental government organizations" and then disappeared down a rabbit hole? Billions of dollars in fraudulent Medicaid spending? A federal workforce that has been MIA for three years?

In the wake of this epic failure of governance, nearly every leading Democrat in Washington has protested: "Elon Musk is going too far."

They say that they are against waste too. But former Presidents Joe Biden and Barack Obama never lifted a finger to stop it. Washington hid behind a curtain of plausible deniability, even though we had scores of auditors and inspector general reports spotlighting the continuing raid on our federal fisc.


Ripping off taxpayers is one of the biggest businesses in America. It's so routine that it isn't seen as a criminal action anymore but rather the cost of doing business inside the Beltway. Like paying off the mob.

Why are Sens. Chuck Schumer and Elizabeth Warren and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez not sharing in our collective outrage? Is it because they knew it was happening all along and feel guilty that they did nothing to stop it?

Or maybe the real answer is that THEY ARE IN ON THE SWINDLE. This could explain how so many politicians spent their careers in Congress and retired as multimillionaires.

In other words, what is most revealing about the Washington slime that we are waking up to in real time thanks to DOGE is that the waste and fraud is the currency of Washington. It pays the bills, and everyone in the swamp gets their cut. Remember: One third of $7 trillion is the stuff of fortunes.

How else does one explain the $2.7 million that Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse allegedly directed/laundered to his wife via a nonprofit environmental group she worked for? This would clearly be graft, but it has gone unpunished.

We are living through the harrowing last scene in a Hollywood murder mystery in which you discover that the chief of police was in on it all along.


When confronted with the ocean of evidence of massive fraud In Washington, politicians reflexively change the subject to the rich "not paying their fair share of taxes." Their solution to the culture of waste is to feed the beast with more money.

In reality, perhaps the greatest public service of the Musk-ateers is that they have taught voters that Washington should never get another penny of our tax dollars until the sewer is completely drained and the tens of thousands of fraudsters inside and outside of government are put out of business and hopefully behind bars.



 
Would it be sincere to gripe when Doge corrects their mistakes? Is that a victory for whomever might express it?
 
The "Musk-ateers" have marked nearly 10 million Social Security recipients over the age of 120 as deceased. (How many monthly checks were sent out?)

I love how you're asking that question as if it wouldn't be trivial for them to prove (and needless to say, massively in their best interest to do so). The fact that they haven't should tell you something about the validity of the claim.
 
All this musk news just makes me think that somewhere brakis is about to have stroke from built up rage
 
Thought this article made some sense ~

Why Democrats Hate DOGE and Love Waste​


If you haven't watched the Bret Baier interviews on Fox News with Elon Musk and the other executives who have given their time and expertise to exposing the rampant fraud and inefficiency of our federal government, I urge you to do so.



It will infuriate you -- and that's what we need right now.

These Department of Government Efficiency volunteers are on a patriotic mission to repair our ship of state. They are hunting down the rats and scoundrels who have played us (we the taxpayers) for fools for so many years. It's the greatest robbery -- more than $1 trillion of fraud and corruption -- in world history.

Yet too many Democrats are reacting as though Musk himself is the scoundrel.

The "Musk-ateers" have marked nearly 10 million Social Security recipients over the age of 120 as deceased. (How many monthly checks were sent out?) How about $10 billion in rent for empty office buildings? Hundreds of millions of dollars for foreign aid programs that went to "nongovernmental government organizations" and then disappeared down a rabbit hole? Billions of dollars in fraudulent Medicaid spending? A federal workforce that has been MIA for three years?

In the wake of this epic failure of governance, nearly every leading Democrat in Washington has protested: "Elon Musk is going too far."

They say that they are against waste too. But former Presidents Joe Biden and Barack Obama never lifted a finger to stop it. Washington hid behind a curtain of plausible deniability, even though we had scores of auditors and inspector general reports spotlighting the continuing raid on our federal fisc.


Ripping off taxpayers is one of the biggest businesses in America. It's so routine that it isn't seen as a criminal action anymore but rather the cost of doing business inside the Beltway. Like paying off the mob.

Why are Sens. Chuck Schumer and Elizabeth Warren and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez not sharing in our collective outrage? Is it because they knew it was happening all along and feel guilty that they did nothing to stop it?

Or maybe the real answer is that THEY ARE IN ON THE SWINDLE. This could explain how so many politicians spent their careers in Congress and retired as multimillionaires.

In other words, what is most revealing about the Washington slime that we are waking up to in real time thanks to DOGE is that the waste and fraud is the currency of Washington. It pays the bills, and everyone in the swamp gets their cut. Remember: One third of $7 trillion is the stuff of fortunes.

How else does one explain the $2.7 million that Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse allegedly directed/laundered to his wife via a nonprofit environmental group she worked for? This would clearly be graft, but it has gone unpunished.

We are living through the harrowing last scene in a Hollywood murder mystery in which you discover that the chief of police was in on it all along.


When confronted with the ocean of evidence of massive fraud In Washington, politicians reflexively change the subject to the rich "not paying their fair share of taxes." Their solution to the culture of waste is to feed the beast with more money.

In reality, perhaps the greatest public service of the Musk-ateers is that they have taught voters that Washington should never get another penny of our tax dollars until the sewer is completely drained and the tens of thousands of fraudsters inside and outside of government are put out of business and hopefully behind bars.



LOL what should infuriate you is how poor your education must have been for you to support this stupid shit.
 
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