Law The DOGE JIG is almost up

[Seano]

Is that you @Strychnine ?

RESIST!

Unless its the buffet.

 

[Area809]

If this were Bidens team doing it, you would be all for it. DOGE IS finding waste. I am not giving them all the credit because a monkey could find a lot of the waste. They are just the only ones DOING it. You lefties act like this is all fake and yet there are verified news stories and fact check sites that confirm it. USAID has been exposed. "Shrimp on a treadmill" is now a term used by actual scientists to describe nonsense studies getting heavy funds.

This stuff is happening and getting exposed. Just because Elon is doing it, you deny it. It's hypocritical because every single Dem President admitted their is waste and fraud, but now you want to pretend they didn't say that. You act like it is an attack on the left when the right was wasteful and involved in Fraud as well.

This is old news

 

[Beechwood]

I thought DOGE's latest find with SS troubling.

What the DOGErs Keep Finding at Social Security Explains the Progressive Spasms​

What the DOGErs Keep Finding at Social Security Explains the Progressive Spasms

Honest to God, it makes you wonder if this is how the Left has been paying off their border-crossing

hotair.com

Honest to God, it makes you wonder if this is how the Left has been paying off their border-crossing shock troops.


If you'll remember back to last week, when Elon and the DOGE team made their first official appearance together on Bret Baier's show, I said the segment on Social Security should be required viewing for every little old recipient squawking about a billionaire 400 times over trying to steal their $1500 a month check.


The reason SS recipients now have to personally come to an office to change their banking info if they wanted a bank deposit address changed was because of the rampant phone fraud the DOGE team had uncovered almost immediately. Forty percent of ALL CALLS were fraudulent efforts to change direct deposit info. This was done to protect Granny, not rob her and make her life miserable.


HOLY SMOKES, RIGHT?

Honey, that ain't the half of it.

There's a guy by the name of Antonio Gracias, who, as founder and managing partner at Valor Equity Partners, has proven to be a pretty smart fellow in his own right. As a patriotic American, he was willing to work with Elon at DOGE.

And how lucky are we?

Because what Gracias revealed he and the DOGE team found at Social Security 'by accident' after, as he said...

'There are a lot of good people in the system who pointed us in this direction and I want to honor them right now. That work in the government today. Who took risks to show us these numbers and tell us this was going on.'

...is gobsmacking.

What is the 'this' he's referring to that they found?

That the Biden administration in 2024 - one year - gave 2.1 MILLION NON-CITIZENS social security numbers.


There's only one reason to do that.

...GRACIAS: "In 2021, 270,000 non-citizens got social security numbers. In 2024, 2.1M non-citizens got social security numbers. We went in to find fraud and found this by accident.

....this is non-political...

... I have been from DC, to the social security offices, to the border to track this down. Very good people helped us along the way and I want to thank them."

So that's irritating, right?

What does it actually mean in terms of dollars, cents, and 'illegal'?

It turns out the system took quite a hit - the worst part being? It was intended to hit the system hard. To create a class of Democratic loyalists, dependent on the state from the very second they stepped over the border.

...“If I hadn't seen this myself, I'm not sure I believed it. I went through it myself and mapped it. And Elon is right. This is true. The defaults in the system from social security to all of the benefit programs have been set to max inclusion, MAX PAY for these people and minimum collection.

We found 1.3 million of them already on Medicaid as an example. We've gone through on every benefit program we went through, we found groups from this particular group of people, this 5.5 million people in those benefit programs.

And then what was really, really disturbing us was why we're asking ourselves why. So we actually just took a sample and looked at voter registration records and we found people here registered to vote in this population. Yes.

Who did vote? We found some by sampling that ACTUALLY DID VOTE.

We have referred them to prosecution at the Homeland Security Investigation Service. Yeah. Already, already. That is already happening right now. The truly disturbing thing though, I just want you to know this, a truly disturbing thing to me, and the darkest thing about this, to me, the voter fraud is terrible.”

Look at how many they'd already locked on at the beginning of 2025.


It doesn't take long to erase honest-to-God Americans if you double the number of illegals every year who are allowed to masquerade as citizens by your own government.

And if you don't think the Coconut Queen wasn't going to keep this ball rolling, I have some burnt rubber in Minnesota to sell you.

This utterly explains the DOGE freakout and violent spazz attacks against Elon and the entire concept.

Democrats don't want to 'save' Social Security or any of the benefits associated with it.

They want to save their slush fund.

...The whistleblower, who worked directly with migrants, revealed staffers were instructed to identify and document minor health issues like "recurring headaches" or "lower back problems" that would qualify migrants for long-term disability payments that would continue for life.

This wasn't just assistance—it was a deliberate plan to ensure they "never have to work a day in their lives in America."

This testimony aligns with the Trump administration's recent executive order aimed at preventing taxpayer money from supporting illegal immigration, including measures to identify federally funded programs providing benefits to those unlawfully present in the country...

The entire twelve-minute presentation is here when you have time. It is well worth the watch and absolutely chilling.

...MUSK: "People think that Biden was asleep at the switch. They weren't asleep at the switch. It was a massive large scale program to import as many illegals as possible, ultimately to change the entire voting map of the United States and disenfranchise the American people and making it a deep blue one party state from which there would be no escape."

GRACIAS: "Human Traffickers made $13-15B off of this. This is a human tragedy. We created a system that created an incentive for people to come here and get taken advantage of by these traffickers."

MUSK: "This is not made up by the right. This is absolutely true...The real reason for these attacks and the burning of the cars, is that we're going to turn off the payments to illegals...I think this is the biggest voter fraud in the history of America by far. If the machine behind the Kamala puppet had won then they would have legalized all the illegals and there would be no swing states."

Thank YOU, Antonio Gracias, son of Spanish immigrants, for volunteering to expose the despicable perfidy, unspeakable evil, and contemptible thievery.


Especially for being willing to expose yourself to the virulent madness of the Left.

Because they are losing it over 'turning off the payments' big time.

Beege ADDS: As we've been chatting this up in the comments and on X, lemme just add it in here to clarify people questioning the legal v illegal immigrant and numbers:

I think the gist of the exponential rise in numbers is precisely that the rise in Social Security was the border or whatever scheme Biden was letting them in under, be it flying Haitians and Venezuelans in for 'temporary status,' whatever.

The DOGErs still have to separate the wheat from the chaff, but no one in their right mind thinks that LEGAL immigration shot up to more than DOUBLE in a SINGLE YEAR to goose those Social Security numbers.

At 2:25 in the last video in my post, @AntonioGracias goes into what he found out happened at the border and how these illegals got into the SS system.

What DOGE team members and those intrepid volunteers are uncovering is precisely the sort of stories we relish bringing you here at HotAir. Ed, David, John, and I only get to cover the world as we see it because of HotAir's VIP membership and their tremendous support for what we do and how we do it.

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[I Am Legion]

This is old news

So? People in this thread are saying there is no proof. Here is proof. 18m a month! They also renegotiated or cancelled government contracts saving hundreds of millions. That is FACT. USAID BS has been cut, all fact. I have done this for a living. Anyone could have found and done this, but nobody did. Obama and Biden talked about it, but never did anything. Now it's getting done, but because it's Elon and Trump, they are Nazis. Lets go burn some Teslas! It's moronic.

 

[BFoe]

If this were Bidens team doing it, you would be all for it. DOGE IS finding waste. I am not giving them all the credit because a monkey could find a lot of the waste. They are just the only ones DOING it. You lefties act like this is all fake and yet there are verified news stories and fact check sites that confirm it. USAID has been exposed. "Shrimp on a treadmill" is now a term used by actual scientists to describe nonsense studies getting heavy funds.

This stuff is happening and getting exposed. Just because Elon is doing it, you deny it. It's hypocritical because every single Dem President admitted their is waste and fraud, but now you want to pretend they didn't say that. You act like it is an attack on the left when the right was wasteful and involved in Fraud as well.

Like everything else DOGE has claimed, this San Anronio story isn’t quite accurate either. Just like all of the other lies and misleading claims that Musk and DOGE have made.

Fact-checking Trump's claims on DOGE spending cuts

In his first annual address to Congress since retaking the White House, Donald Trump claimed his administration had saved billions of dollars by slashing wasteful and fraudulent government spending. But the US president misrepresented several of the programs he cited.

www.yahoo.com

A look at the misleading and incorrect claims on DOGE's 'wall of receipts'

Elon Musk claims his campaign to fire tens of thousands of federal workers and cancel government contracts is in the name of rooting out “fraud” and “waste.” A website claims they’ve saved billions by cutting certain federal contracts, but reports and government documents prove that these...

www.pbs.org

DOGE Makes Its Latest Errors Harder to Find

Elon Musk’s group obscured the details of some new claims on its website, despite promises of transparency. But The Times was still able to detect another batch of mistakes.

www.nytimes.com

Bill Clinton already laid a blueprint for how to reduce the size of government in a legal and constitutional way—something that DOGE is not doing in most cases—and actually reduce the national debt and run surpluses while not tanking the economy. But Trump and DOGE aren’t interested in following that because they aren’t really trying to pay down the debt or make good financial decisions. They’re trying to scrounge every penny they can to offset the massive tax cuts they’re about to give themselves, and they’re trying to tank markets so they can buy shit up and control more things.

We’ve told you repeatedly where the real waste is: it’s in the unpaid revenue that the government never gets because billionaires like Trump and Elon don’t pay their fair share of taxes. There’s literally nothing these billionaires can’t sell you guys. Even now, Trump has a whole new slew of taxes for us to pay, but since he named it “Liberation Day” you’ll go along with it. The decisions you guys made have fucked the middle class for decades to come.

 

[BFoe]

I thought DOGE's latest find with SS troubling.

What the DOGErs Keep Finding at Social Security Explains the Progressive Spasms​

What the DOGErs Keep Finding at Social Security Explains the Progressive Spasms

Honest to God, it makes you wonder if this is how the Left has been paying off their border-crossing

hotair.com

Honest to God, it makes you wonder if this is how the Left has been paying off their border-crossing shock troops.


If you'll remember back to last week, when Elon and the DOGE team made their first official appearance together on Bret Baier's show, I said the segment on Social Security should be required viewing for every little old recipient squawking about a billionaire 400 times over trying to steal their $1500 a month check.


The reason SS recipients now have to personally come to an office to change their banking info if they wanted a bank deposit address changed was because of the rampant phone fraud the DOGE team had uncovered almost immediately. Forty percent of ALL CALLS were fraudulent efforts to change direct deposit info. This was done to protect Granny, not rob her and make her life miserable.


HOLY SMOKES, RIGHT?

Honey, that ain't the half of it.

There's a guy by the name of Antonio Gracias, who, as founder and managing partner at Valor Equity Partners, has proven to be a pretty smart fellow in his own right. As a patriotic American, he was willing to work with Elon at DOGE.

And how lucky are we?

Because what Gracias revealed he and the DOGE team found at Social Security 'by accident' after, as he said...


...is gobsmacking.

What is the 'this' he's referring to that they found?

That the Biden administration in 2024 - one year - gave 2.1 MILLION NON-CITIZENS social security numbers.


There's only one reason to do that.



So that's irritating, right?

What does it actually mean in terms of dollars, cents, and 'illegal'?

It turns out the system took quite a hit - the worst part being? It was intended to hit the system hard. To create a class of Democratic loyalists, dependent on the state from the very second they stepped over the border.




Look at how many they'd already locked on at the beginning of 2025.


It doesn't take long to erase honest-to-God Americans if you double the number of illegals every year who are allowed to masquerade as citizens by your own government.

And if you don't think the Coconut Queen wasn't going to keep this ball rolling, I have some burnt rubber in Minnesota to sell you.

This utterly explains the DOGE freakout and violent spazz attacks against Elon and the entire concept.

Democrats don't want to 'save' Social Security or any of the benefits associated with it.

They want to save their slush fund.




The entire twelve-minute presentation is here when you have time. It is well worth the watch and absolutely chilling.



Thank YOU, Antonio Gracias, son of Spanish immigrants, for volunteering to expose the despicable perfidy, unspeakable evil, and contemptible thievery.


Especially for being willing to expose yourself to the virulent madness of the Left.

Because they are losing it over 'turning off the payments' big time.

Beege ADDS: As we've been chatting this up in the comments and on X, lemme just add it in here to clarify people questioning the legal v illegal immigrant and numbers:

I think the gist of the exponential rise in numbers is precisely that the rise in Social Security was the border or whatever scheme Biden was letting them in under, be it flying Haitians and Venezuelans in for 'temporary status,' whatever.

The DOGErs still have to separate the wheat from the chaff, but no one in their right mind thinks that LEGAL immigration shot up to more than DOUBLE in a SINGLE YEAR to goose those Social Security numbers.

At 2:25 in the last video in my post, @AntonioGracias goes into what he found out happened at the border and how these illegals got into the SS system.

What DOGE team members and those intrepid volunteers are uncovering is precisely the sort of stories we relish bringing you here at HotAir. Ed, David, John, and I only get to cover the world as we see it because of HotAir's VIP membership and their tremendous support for what we do and how we do it.

We would love to invite you to join our most awesome community, and there's no time like the present. Use promo code FIGHT to get 60% off your membership. The comment sections are always lively, and believe me, there's so much more. Ed's videos and the unique VIP pieces we all do (and now Mitch) are just a sampling.

Choose VIP to support HotAir and access our premium content, VIP Gold to extend your access to all Townhall Media platforms and participate in this show, or VIP Platinum to get access to even more content and discounts on merchandise.


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Then why don’t they provide proof? Why don’t they show actual evidence? Instead, it’s always this shit, just a bunch of salacious sounding clickbait nonsense full of “Musk said so!” and “I saw it with my own eyes!” I probably killed a few brain cells reading that entire propaganda piece, and not a shred of evidence was to be found.

They never provide proof because you guys never demand it, you’ll eat anything they serve you.

 

[Area809]

So? People in this thread are saying there is no proof. Here is proof. 18m a month! They also renegotiated or cancelled government contracts saving hundreds of millions. That is FACT. USAID BS has been cut, all fact. I have done this for a living. Anyone could have found and done this, but nobody did. Obama and Biden talked about it, but never did anything. Now it's getting done, but because it's Elon and Trump, they are Nazis. Lets go burn some Teslas! It's moronic.

Nearly 40% of contracts canceled by Musk's DOGE are expected to produce no savings

Nearly 40% of the federal contracts that President Donald Trump’s administration claims to have canceled as part of its signature cost-cutting program aren’t expected to save the government any money, the administration’s data shows.

apnews.com

 

[Rational Poster]

 

[James Bomb]

I've watched elon's interviews brother, as a real auditor I can assure you that every time he speaks, he's giving it away. It's pretty obvious when he gets asked a question and doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about lol.

And you say I'm not calling it an audit because it's not EXACTLY what I do ..well yea, that's because I perform real audits on the government and not make believe bullshit lol.

There standards for audits brother. There are no sets of auditing standards that leads to cutting 70k jobs in a couple of weeks lol. None. There are no auditing standards known to man that will make you find all this fraud in a couple of weeks.

It's not that it's not EXACTLY what I do, there are more than one way to skin a cat. Yellow book, Red Book, etc...but there is one thing is purely a fact, you cannot take 50 auditors and 50 tech bros and do the work they are claiming in the amount of time they are claiming. It is just fucking beyond laughable to anybody who knows anything about audit work.

It's not a great time for inspector generals and other independent watchdogs, stay safe out there...

Wholesale cutting can also do more damage because it's often more expensive to build than it is to destroy

 

[PainIsLIfe]

You don’t have to wait. Congress is writing a budget bill right now, they are welcome to dissolve whatever agencies are governed by law, or make spending cuts. In fact, they could’ve tried to pass a bill to do these things any time they wanted.

I haven’t seen any judge go rogue, but I certainly see a Chief Executive trying to usurp Congress’s constitutional powers.

What DOGE is doing isn’t an audit at all. Not really “independent” either.

How many jobs and agencies did Clinton get rid of?

 

[Andy Capp]

How many jobs and agencies did Clinton get rid of?

It's funny to me how you're still defending these cunts with faux reasonable bulshit. Especially with "what about Clinton." Are you going to tell us it's not your fault for being ignorant on this subject too?

 

[PainIsLIfe]

It's funny to me how you're still defending these cunts with faux reasonable bulshit. Especially with "what about Clinton." Are you going to tell us it's not your fault for being ignorant on this subject too?

Are you going to answer the question?

No one was in court claiming Clinton couldn't cut federal jobs or agencies.

400k jobs cut. And the only difference was democrats claim that Clinton wasn't just cutting jobs but also trying to make the govt more efficient.

 

[Andy Capp]

Are you going to answer the question?

No one was in court claiming Clinton couldn't cut federal jobs or agencies.

400k jobs cut. And the only difference was democrats claim that Clinton wasn't just cutting jobs but also trying to make the govt more efficient.

lol

 

[PainIsLIfe]

lol

So you can't refute it and prefer to post menes.

 

[Andy Capp]

So you can't refute it and prefer to post menes.

I refuted it in my first reply. "What about Clinton?" is not an argument. Stop taking stupid pills or whatever the fuck you're on.

 

[BFoe]

How many jobs and agencies did Clinton get rid of?

It’s interesting that you ask that question and not questions like “How did Clinton do it without tanking the economy,” or “How did Clinton do it without getting sued six ways from Sunday,” or things like that.

The answer to your question is about 500K jobs were eliminated, thousands of pages of regulations to make government actually be more efficient, and taxpayers were saved about 136 billion dollars in 1990s money—so more than DOGE has done in today’s money, and that was at a time when total spending was 1.7 trillion instead of 6.5 trillion, and the national debt was about 5.5 trillion instead of 36 trillion.
—And on top of that, Trump and Musk’s policies took a strong economy to the brink of recession in just a couple of months, whereas Clinton had inherited a recession which he got us out of while accomplishing these things.

Clinton’s initiative actually did things through Congress the legal and constitutional way, was targeted, gradual, and didn’t torpedo shit we actually need—unlike the scam that is DOGE.

How Clinton's "reinventing government" compares to DOGE's approach: "We cut fat and they cut muscle"

The "reinventing government" program cut over 480,000 federal jobs and thousands of regulations. The woman who ran the program says any similarities to DOGE end there.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[PainIsLIfe]

I refuted it in my first reply. "What about Clinton?" is not an argument. Stop taking stupid pills or whatever the fuck you're on.

The question was how many jobs and agencies did Clinton cut.

Since its suddenly ,"usurping congress and illegal"; I'm just trying figure out if you guys know how/why it became illegal suddenly.

Other than that; I guess I'm just happy that I'm only taking stupid pills instead of being a racist.

 

[PainIsLIfe]

It’s interesting that you ask that question and not questions like “How did Clinton do it without tanking the economy,” or “How did Clinton do it without getting sued six ways from Sunday,” or things like that.

The answer to your question is about 500K jobs were eliminated, thousands of pages of regulations to make government actually be more efficient, and taxpayers were saved about 136 billion dollars in 1990s money—so more than DOGE has done in today’s money, and that was at a time when total spending was 1.7 trillion instead of 6.5 trillion, and the national debt was about 5.5 trillion instead of 36 trillion.
—And on top of that, Trump and Musk’s policies took a strong economy to the brink of recession in just a couple of months, whereas Clinton had inherited a recession which he got us out of while accomplishing these things.

Clinton’s initiative actually did things through Congress the legal and constitutional way, was targeted, gradual, and didn’t torpedo shit we actually need—unlike the scam that is DOGE.

How Clinton's "reinventing government" compares to DOGE's approach: "We cut fat and they cut muscle"

The "reinventing government" program cut over 480,000 federal jobs and thousands of regulations. The woman who ran the program says any similarities to DOGE end there.

www.cbsnews.com

"We cut fat and they cut muscle" doesn't mean they did it through congess or that it was fundamentally different than DOGE.

 

[BFoe]

The question was how many jobs and agencies did Clinton cut.

Since its suddenly ,"usurping congress and illegal"; I'm just trying figure out if you guys know how/why it became illegal suddenly.

Other than that; I guess I'm just happy that I'm only taking stupid pills instead of being a racist.

i addressed this in my post a moment ago, but I’ll say it again. This didn’t “become illegal suddenly.” Clinton did it tne legal and constitutional way, using Congress. Trump and DOGE are not.

Even Reagan’s ill-fated and shitty attempt (the Grace Commission) made their recommendations to Congress, because that’s who has the power of the purse. Only Trump has such disdain for the Constitution as to try to do this the way that he is.

 

[Rational Poster]

The question was how many jobs and agencies did Clinton cut.

Since its suddenly ,"usurping congress and illegal"; I'm just trying figure out if you guys know how/why it became illegal suddenly.

Other than that; I guess I'm just happy that I'm only taking stupid pills instead of being a racist.

Clinton worked with Congress, and was famously bipartisan in his approach. It wasn't done through executive order over a few weeks, it was a gradual process that ended up taking years.

The review and planning period alone was over 6 months.

You're just being dishonest to claim that their approaches were at all similar and are just repeating a line you saw someone else say.