Social The daily "AOC says something stupid on Twitter" thread.

[Mcountry]

Why is it so hard for you to grasp that that doesn't matter?
We are the most powerful nation on the planet, and you want to give us a gold star for cleaning up our own mess? You dont get praised for doing what you're supposed to be doing, especially when you're doing a half assed job of it.
It isn't enough.

This is simple math.
There are 195 countries on this planet. America is just 1 of them, and we only make up 5% of the human population on the planet, and even with any reductions we've made, we're still the 2nd biggest emitter, emitting about 15% of the carbon dioxide.
What happens when emerging developing countries start catching up to us and start consuming and spending like we do? It is unsustainable.

Lol that tweet is such disingenuous horseshit. She "refuses to.." is the line these hacks ALWAYS uses when they cant get someone to give them any of their time.
I swear Twitter is the absolute worse thing to ever happen to people. Because you guys turn off your brains.

She, or her staff knows who that guy is. She isn't going to give "reporters" like him the clickbait and views he wants. He goes on to ask her if she "feels responsible for the attacks", and if "she feels ashamed"
Lol he isn't the press.
Why the hell would AOC, or any liberal talk to "reporters" like this?

You act like this is unique. How often does Mitch McConnell appear on, or do interviews with reporters from MSNBC or The Young Turks? No politician is going to talk to someone that has an obvious agenda to make them look bad.

She did say she would be making a statement later on that day. Did she ever say anything about the terrorist attack on ICE or no?

 

[SmilinDesperado]

She did say she would be making a statement later on that day. Did she ever say anything about the terrorist attack on ICE or no?

No idea.
Didnt look.
But amazing how you guys continually focus on this small crap, and not the big picture.

I mean, this guy obviously asked her this question because he was trying to make it look like to his viewers that AOC supports ANTIFA. It's garbage, hacky crap.

Her name is always in the news. I'm sure this is going to come up in the next day or two, and she'll either tweet something, or be interviewed about it by an actual reporter. She's not giving her statement to that dork in a hallway.

Trump said he had an announcement coming out about health care 3 weeks ago, lol why arent u guys asking about that?
But you're worried about hearing AOC give the obvious answer that she's going to give, that violence and terrorism is wrong, and she doesn't support it.
Do you really think she is supportive of blowing up buildings? That she's going to be like "yea, ANTIFA is kinda right about this one"?

You have AOCDS if you think so

 

[Mcountry]

No idea.
Didnt look.
But amazing how you guys continually focus on this small crap, and not the big picture.

I mean, this guy obviously asked her this question because he was trying to make it look like to his viewers that AOC supports ANTIFA. It's garbage, hacky crap.

Her name is always in the news. I'm sure this is going to come up in the next day or two, and she'll either tweet something, or be interviewed about it by an actual reporter. She's not giving her statement to that dork in a hallway.

Trump said he had an announcement coming out about health care 3 weeks ago, lol why arent u guys asking about that?
But you're worried about hearing AOC give the obvious answer that she's going to give, that violence and terrorism is wrong, and she doesn't support it.
Do you really think she is supportive of blowing up buildings? That she's going to be like "yea, ANTIFA is kinda right about this one"?

You have AOCDS if you think so

Well does she support antifa? I've never heard her say anything negative against antifa...

This isn't any different then badgering trump as to if he supports white supremacy...so I guess you just gotta deal with this stuff when you become a public figure, huh?

 

[SmilinDesperado]

Well does she support antifa? I've never heard her say anything negative against antifa...

This isn't any different then badgering trump as to if he supports white supremacy...so I guess you just gotta deal with this stuff when you become a public figure, huh?

Do you really believe that she is FOR ANTIFA?
ANTIFA is a violent group of shitheads. She is a sitting member of Congress. Does this really have to be questioned?

How many members of Congress do you think have talked about ANTIFA? How big of a group are they exactly? I don't often hear about them at all. Either way, she has more pressing things to work on then a ragtag group of cowards in masks.

The Trump analogy is absolutely a false equivalency. Trump gets the comparisons with white supremacy groups because of the things he has said and done for decades. These white supremacists wouldn't be backing Pence or Mitt Romney if they were president. It isnt political. It is based on what Trump has said and done.

I have no issue with reporters asking AOC her opinions on ANTIFA especially if the guy is claiming she inspired him in some way, but the idea that she has incited, or is responsible for some sort of terrorist attack is absurd.
And it's even more absurd to compare her to Trump, a guy that calls people sons of bitches, talks about violence towards criminals and protestors at his rallies, wouldn't rent to blacks, calls brown countries shitholes, I mean the list goes on and on as to why he gets tied to white supremacists.
That "reporter" had no intention of getting anything real from AOC, and that's why she didnt answer

 

[Beaver Brownlee]

Why is it so hard for you to grasp that that doesn't matter?
We are the most powerful nation on the planet, and you want to give us a gold star for cleaning up our own mess? You dont get praised for doing what you're supposed to be doing, especially when you're doing a half assed job of it.
It isn't enough.

This is simple math.
There are 195 countries on this planet. America is just 1 of them, and we only make up 5% of the human population on the planet, and even with any reductions we've made, we're still the 2nd biggest emitter, emitting about 15% of the carbon dioxide.
What happens when emerging developing countries start catching up to us and start consuming and spending like we do? It is unsustainable.

Lol that tweet is such disingenuous horseshit. She "refuses to.." is the line these hacks ALWAYS uses when they cant get someone to give them any of their time.
I swear Twitter is the absolute worse thing to ever happen to people. Because you guys turn off your brains.

She, or her staff knows who that guy is. She isn't going to give "reporters" like him the clickbait and views he wants. He goes on to ask her if she "feels responsible for the attacks", and if "she feels ashamed"
Lol he isn't the press.
Why the hell would AOC, or any liberal talk to "reporters" like this?

You act like this is unique. How often does Mitch McConnell appear on, or do interviews with reporters from MSNBC or The Young Turks? No politician is going to talk to someone that has an obvious agenda to make them look bad.

Ok I'm in. First thing we do is stop all production of any goods that go to those other shithole countries to help reduce our emissions on they're behalf.
But it's not good enough right? It's not good enough that we're number one and the best at reducing emissions.
Horseshit and you know it.
What's better than the best? Spill it, go on.
What doesn't matter is that whatever we do will do nothing if every nation doesn't step up and do the same. To say we must be doing so much more than every other nation is nationalist and I'm not sure you'd want to be labeled as such.

It'd been very easy for her to simply say I do not condone violence of any sort and she'd have had a win. But nope, to stupid for that.

 

[Beaver Brownlee]

Do you really believe that she is FOR ANTIFA?
ANTIFA is a violent group of shitheads. She is a sitting member of Congress. Does this really have to be questioned?

How many members of Congress do you think have talked about ANTIFA? How big of a group are they exactly? I don't often hear about them at all. Either way, she has more pressing things to work on then a ragtag group of cowards in masks.

The Trump analogy is absolutely a false equivalency. Trump gets the comparisons with white supremacy groups because of the things he has said and done for decades. These white supremacists wouldn't be backing Pence or Mitt Romney if they were president. It isnt political. It is based on what Trump has said and done.

I have no issue with reporters asking AOC her opinions on ANTIFA especially if the guy is claiming she inspired him in some way, but the idea that she has incited, or is responsible for some sort of terrorist attack is absurd.
And it's even more absurd to compare her to Trump, a guy that calls people sons of bitches, talks about violence towards criminals and protestors at his rallies, wouldn't rent to blacks, calls brown countries shitholes, I mean the list goes on and on as to why he gets tied to white supremacists.
That "reporter" had no intention of getting anything real from AOC, and that's why she didnt answer

Please elaborate on what role Trump played in shithole countries being non white.
Do it.

 

[SmilinDesperado]

Ok I'm in. First thing we do is stop all production of any goods that go to those other shithole countries to help reduce our emissions on they're behalf.
But it's not good enough right? It's not good enough that we're number one and the best at reducing emissions.
Horseshit and you know it.
What's better than the best? Spill it, go on.
What doesn't matter is that whatever we do will do nothing if every nation doesn't step up and do the same. To say we must be doing so much more than every other nation is nationalist and I'm not sure you'd want to be labeled as such.

It'd been very easy for her to simply say I do not condone violence of any sort and she'd have had a win. But nope, to stupid for that.

Trying to fix a computer with a hammer usually doesn't work, bud.
You're trying to make this some simple good vs bad , and it's absurd.
You keep skipping over the part that we emit the 2nd highest amount of carbon. It doesn't matter how much clean up we're doing if we're still making one of the bigger messes on the planet.
And our economies are all so intertwined now that we depend on each other for a lot of the products we have today.
Being the best at the special Olympics, still leaves you retarded at the end of the race. Being the best in a retard race is not good enough. Not when we are capable of doing more.

The United States has immense power--that it isnt using. Diplomatically and economically, we could literally force nations to go green with us. Often times, international agreements are useless when countries like us, or China, or blocs like the EU dont get aboard.

With AOC, you're just incredibly bias, and won't admit to simple truths. Why would she give a statement to a "reporter" that is just trying to smear her? There's nothing "smart" about that. She'll give her statement on her own terms.
When Trump has some news to share, does he call up Rachel Maddow or Don Lemon? No, that would be stupid. He calls FOX. But AOC is stupid for not answering the question of a hack blogger asking her stupid questions?
Take your MAGA hat off for a second, and give an honest answer

 

[Mcountry]

Do you really believe that she is FOR ANTIFA?
ANTIFA is a violent group of shitheads. She is a sitting member of Congress. Does this really have to be questioned?

How many members of Congress do you think have talked about ANTIFA? How big of a group are they exactly? I don't often hear about them at all. Either way, she has more pressing things to work on then a ragtag group of cowards in masks.

The Trump analogy is absolutely a false equivalency. Trump gets the comparisons with white supremacy groups because of the things he has said and done for decades. These white supremacists wouldn't be backing Pence or Mitt Romney if they were president. It isnt political. It is based on what Trump has said and done.

I have no issue with reporters asking AOC her opinions on ANTIFA especially if the guy is claiming she inspired him in some way, but the idea that she has incited, or is responsible for some sort of terrorist attack is absurd.
And it's even more absurd to compare her to Trump, a guy that calls people sons of bitches, talks about violence towards criminals and protestors at his rallies, wouldn't rent to blacks, calls brown countries shitholes, I mean the list goes on and on as to why he gets tied to white supremacists.
That "reporter" had no intention of getting anything real from AOC, and that's why she didnt answer

Well she has called ICE murderers, and for their defunding. She said ICE should be abolished and can't be reformed. So ya...it's not a wonder as to why she should be asked about antifa attacking an organization she's pretty much denigrated in the media for most of her short political career.

 

[SmilinDesperado]

Well she has called ICE murders, and for their defunding. She said ICE should be abolished and can't be reformed. So ya...it's not a wonder as to why she should be asked about antifa attacking an organization she's pretty much denigrated in the media for most of her short political career.

Alright, and what else did she say about ICE?
This is the theme in this whole thread. You guys take half of her statements, and then leave out the rest.

We had border security before ICE. ICE was created after 9/11, and they were given extraordinary powers and latitude to do what they wanted, and they get to use "national security" to excuse it all. She wants the agency to have more oversight.

She didn't say "abolish ICE and let all the Mexicans and Guatemalans and gang bangers in". Abolish ICE, and either form a new agency, or expand border patrol and let the government agencies that were doing security pre-911 go back to their positions. Her position is not "open borders". We can have border security without separating refugee families and putting kids in cages.

Why wouldn't she denigrate an agency like ICE? Americans should feel embarrassed of it. Regardless of what your thoughts are on immigration and illegals, people...children.. are dying in our custody. If you think they're criminals, then even criminals get their day in court in this country.
She hasn't made any kind of crazy calls for violence against ICE, or anyone else for that matter. She's not responsible for the actions of a nut job.
Nuts are nuts, and they exist on both sides.

 

[Mcountry]

Alright, and what else did she say about ICE?
This is the theme in this whole thread. You guys take half of her statements, and then leave out the rest.

We had border security before ICE. ICE was created after 9/11, and they were given extraordinary powers and latitude to do what they wanted, and they get to use "national security" to excuse it all. She wants the agency to have more oversight.

She didn't say "abolish ICE and let all the Mexicans and Guatemalans and gang bangers in". Abolish ICE, and either form a new agency, or expand border patrol and let the government agencies that were doing security pre-911 go back to their positions. Her position is not "open borders". We can have border security without separating refugee families and putting kids in cages.

Why wouldn't she denigrate an agency like ICE? Americans should feel embarrassed of it. Regardless of what your thoughts are on immigration and illegals, people...children.. are dying in our custody. If you think they're criminals, then even criminals get their day in court in this country.
She hasn't made any kind of crazy calls for violence against ICE, or anyone else for that matter. She's not responsible for the actions of a nut job.
Nuts are nuts, and they exist on both sides.

You entirely dodged my point with a rant that has nothing to do with what I had said.

 

[west42]

So then it’s pretty much worthless.

Nah bro, it's a plan to come up with a plan to address global climate change warming

 

[Hard To Tell]

Nah bro, it's a plan to come up with a plan to address global climate change warming

And you can claim whatever you want, no matter how fanciful or physically impossible, and no one should question it because it's only a proposal to get things started. Although there are explanations for these claims, apparantly, just don't expect anyone to actually tell you what they are.

 

[west42]

And you can claim whatever you want, no matter how fanciful or physically impossible, and no one should question it because it's only a proposal to get things started. Although there are explanations for these claims, apparantly, just don't expect anyone to actually tell you what they are.

So then it’s pretty much worthless

 

[trac209]

Why is it so hard for you to grasp that that doesn't matter?
We are the most powerful nation on the planet, and you want to give us a gold star for cleaning up our own mess? You dont get praised for doing what you're supposed to be doing, especially when you're doing a half assed job of it.
It isn't enough.

This is simple math.
There are 195 countries on this planet. America is just 1 of them, and we only make up 5% of the human population on the planet, and even with any reductions we've made, we're still the 2nd biggest emitter, emitting about 15% of the carbon dioxide.
What happens when emerging developing countries start catching up to us and start consuming and spending like we do? It is unsustainable.

Lol that tweet is such disingenuous horseshit. She "refuses to.." is the line these hacks ALWAYS uses when they cant get someone to give them any of their time.
I swear Twitter is the absolute worse thing to ever happen to people. Because you guys turn off your brains.

She, or her staff knows who that guy is. She isn't going to give "reporters" like him the clickbait and views he wants. He goes on to ask her if she "feels responsible for the attacks", and if "she feels ashamed"
Lol he isn't the press.
Why the hell would AOC, or any liberal talk to "reporters" like this?

You act like this is unique. How often does Mitch McConnell appear on, or do interviews with reporters from MSNBC or The Young Turks? No politician is going to talk to someone that has an obvious agenda to make them look bad.

Climate change is billions of years old , care to take a guess how long man has been here? In the grand scheme it’s nearly seconds in earths history, please stop Climate whining .

 

[MikeMcMann]

...
This is the theme in this whole thread. You guys take half of her statements, and then leave out the rest.....

That was an exact variant of what I said when I proved over and over 99% of the stuff they would say that she said was stupid was them taking it out of context or just declaring it dumb based on their interpretation of what she said.

And example above is the general statement that her view on GND is dumb. Its ideological,yes and no one has to agree with it but disagreement alone does not make something dumb. If it does then every socialist against Freer Trade can say anyone who supported Nafta orTrumps newer version is saying something dumb.

I would challenge them over and over to quote SPECIFICALLY what was dumb and never got it. Just got the repeated, over and over, 'It's dumb and you just refuse to acknowledge it'. Unlike with the 10 times more common Trump quotes that are dumb on their face. No elaboration needed. No interpretation needed. Just dumb. Such as Trump associating Googles actions or Mueller's actions or the Investigation with 'treason'.

 

[Beaver Brownlee]

Trying to fix a computer with a hammer usually doesn't work, bud.
You're trying to make this some simple good vs bad , and it's absurd.
You keep skipping over the part that we emit the 2nd highest amount of carbon. It doesn't matter how much clean up we're doing if we're still making one of the bigger messes on the planet.
And our economies are all so intertwined now that we depend on each other for a lot of the products we have today.
Being the best at the special Olympics, still leaves you retarded at the end of the race. Being the best in a retard race is not good enough. Not when we are capable of doing more.

The United States has immense power--that it isnt using. Diplomatically and economically, we could literally force nations to go green with us. Often times, international agreements are useless when countries like us, or China, or blocs like the EU dont get aboard.

With AOC, you're just incredibly bias, and won't admit to simple truths. Why would she give a statement to a "reporter" that is just trying to smear her? There's nothing "smart" about that. She'll give her statement on her own terms.
When Trump has some news to share, does he call up Rachel Maddow or Don Lemon? No, that would be stupid. He calls FOX. But AOC is stupid for not answering the question of a hack blogger asking her stupid questions?
Take your MAGA hat off for a second, and give an honest answer

Ok here's my honest answer. I don't give a flying fuck who, when, or where asks I'll will condemn white supremacists. Same with homophobia. Same with racism.
I don't need to think about who I'm speaking to, my message is clear and unwaivering and without hesitation.

But I understand, to you asking if one condemns terrorist bombings is a stupid question.
Go get your shine box.

And we're doing more, more than any nation on Earth to reduce pollution. It's getting better while we are still currently the best. Own that fact.

 

[djacobox372]

Ok here's my honest answer. I don't give a flying fuck who, when, or where asks I'll will condemn white supremacists. Same with homophobia. Same with racism.
I don't need to think about who I'm speaking to, my message is clear and unwaivering and without hesitation.

But I understand, to you asking if one condemns terrorist bombings is a stupid question.
Go get your shine box.

And we're doing more, more than any nation on Earth to reduce pollution. It's getting better while we are still currently the best. Own that fact.

The US is the 2nd biggest polluter per capita in the world, only china is worse. Own that fact.

 

[uppercutbus]

You entirely dodged my point with a rant that has nothing to do with what I had said.

It's a strange and interesting way to hand-wave away a post too, usually people like Rational Poster and Zebby just disregard/red-herring it with a 1-liner, long winded-posts seem like a waste if you're gonna do that.

 

[SmilinDesperado]

Climate change is billions of years old , care to take a guess how long man has been here? In the grand scheme it’s nearly seconds in earths history, please stop Climate whining .

What does that have to do with anything? Do you think man has no impact on the environment?

The problem isn't just about global temperatures. The CO2 isn't just increasing heat, and it isn't the only dangerous substance we're emitting by the tons.
8 billion people, trillions of tons of garbage, plastic in the ocean, and chemicals in the air and water. It is not sustainable. This is such an idiotic argument. It isn't "climate whining", it's simple math and common sense.
Unless you want man to no longer be on this planet, pollution, which includes emissions, has to be addressed.

 

[SmilinDesperado]

That was an exact variant of what I said when I proved over and over 99% of the stuff they would say that she said was stupid was them taking it out of context or just declaring it dumb based on their interpretation of what she said.

And example above is the general statement that her view on GND is dumb. Its ideological,yes and no one has to agree with it but disagreement alone does not make something dumb. If it does then every socialist against Freer Trade can say anyone who supported Nafta orTrumps newer version is saying something dumb.

I would challenge them over and over to quote SPECIFICALLY what was dumb and never got it. Just got the repeated, over and over, 'It's dumb and you just refuse to acknowledge it'. Unlike with the 10 times more common Trump quotes that are dumb on their face. No elaboration needed. No interpretation needed. Just dumb. Such as Trump associating Googles actions or Mueller's actions or the Investigation with 'treason'.

Yeah, the past few pages i have been trying to have an actual discussion on AOC's "dumbness", and it's just a bunch of people saying "uh.....because she's dumb, white knight"
That isn't an explanation. Especially when the vast majority of the complaints are just her words being taken out of context. No one in here has actually read the GND, or watched an interview of AOC talk about it. They keep repeating the same FOX news talking points that anyone who read the deal would know are incorrect.

Having a difference of opinion isn't the same as someone being stupid.
I disagree with the conservative view on abortion, but i understand their view, and wouldn't call someone stupid for having it.
Anyone calling the GND stupid didn't read it, or didn't understand it, so, who's the real dummy there? If you're going to disagree with something, you need a better argument than "because it's dumb"

Even when asking for specifics from them, they completely gloss over the facts, or focus on the smallest, most insignificant part of the conversation. And we are trapped in this loop arguing about "open borders" and "banning cows", instead of the actual issue of climate change, pollution, and a broken immigration policy.