The Case For Stripping Khabib

[snackgod]

Well seeing as Khabib's suspension doesn't end until After Ramadan, no.

so him being booked for the biggest ppv event after septemeber oct isnt good enough.

jon jones was booked for ufc 214 and his suspention didnt end until weeks beforet he event happened.

 

[snackgod]

but he wont be fighting on the first big ppv post ramadan

he has already said he wont be fighting till november

hes refusing to fight until his teammates suspensions are over

just like how conor said he never fight in vegas again and look who was on ufc 229. khabib fighting around oct isnt the worst thing in the world.

 

[snackgod]

I don't think it matters if you strip him or not. He fights for the title if he decides to come back.

Let Ferg get his red panty night now

well conor is to scared of that.

 

[tonyDaTiger]

You can't strip a champion 4 months after his latest title defense.

When a year passes by then talks of stripping can begin.

Dana hates Woodley yet the guy went like 13 months without a title defense. Rose is going to defend her title like a year after her last defense. Neither of the 2 are draws. Khabib is a much bigger star than Woodley and rose.

 

[Negator402]

khabib had nothing to do with conor throwing the first punch and the brawl getting out of control.

conor got punked and conor fan boys cant handle there god not looking like a bum

Wow you are self-deluded. Conor throwing a punch at the guy standing next to him was DEFINITELY what started it, and not Khabib monkey-diving out of the cage while his goons dove into it.

 

[snackgod]

Wow you are self-deluded. Conor throwing a punch at the guy standing next to him was DEFINITELY what started it, and not Khabib monkey-diving out of the cage while his goons dove into it.

khabib wasnt in any risk of goign to jail so he didnt do anything.

the nsac picked flexing it muscles and making a pointless statement to get fighters to act more professional.

dillon danis kept his mouth shut the brawl wouldnt of happened.

 

[TEXASMOJO]

If ufc wants to strip him then go ahead. Just don't make Connor vs someone for the vacant belt. Connor started this beef.
Make Tony vs another top contender for the vacant title.

 

[bootsy]

there wont be khabib fights around septmeber like in 2018.

so what the problem.

I didn’t say there was a problem for me, unless he doesn’t fight within a year.

 

[snackgod]

I didn’t say there was a problem for me, unless he doesn’t fight within a year.

when conor held the ufc hostage for 2 years him going 12-14 months isnt a big deal

 

[Tarzan Johnson]

Sherbros,

The following is a short argument for stripping Khabib of the 155 belt. The basic facts are that Khabib was offered a 3-month reduction of his 9-month suspension for his flying monkey dive unto Dillon Penis at UFC 229 if he did an anti-bullying PSA. Khabib has refused, and instead demanded that unless his cousin Abubakar and his friend Zubaira Tugukhov have their suspensions reduced, he will not fight until November.

1. His refusal to fight is 100% voluntary, and is in addition to his legal prohibitions from fighting. He is not making the UFC money, he is not hurt, and he has several worthy contenders.

2. His "point" that he is making is morally repugnant. He is clearly trying to show that his backwards "Muslim brothers band together" mentality needs to be forgiven and given wide breadth. Both his friends jumped into a cage to assault a fighter. Zubaira did it from behind, and was not even a cornerman. He should be banned for life, frankly. This is not a savage nation. His standing up for his vile friends makes it worse, not better.

3. Ali Abdelazziz is trying to increase his standing and influence, and often does this by banging the Muslim drum. If ever there was a moment to remind him that only McGregor gets special treatment (and even then, only because he fights relatively often and makes the UFC many, many millions).

4. Unlike Conor, Khabib is not a mega star. Conor was stripped of the 145 belt fairly quickly, and only stripped of the 155 belt when an actual title fight was booked.

5. There are extremely worthy opponents, and Ferguson has already gotten an interim title. It would be wrong to make contenders fight each other when neither has had a chance against Khabib yet.

6. All the players in the championship hunt (Poirer, Ferguson, Khabib himself) except Conor are extremely injury prone. Time is not on anyone's side.

In conclusion, I believe the correct move is to strip Khabib if he refuses to do the PSA and book a pre-Ramadan fight. Tony and Poirer (both of whom are injury prone as is) need to be booked for the belt this spring. Let Conor fight Cerrone. If Khabib is ready after, let him be the challenger, and make challenger money, against the winner. OR if you really want to make a point, let him fight someone else, let the Conor-Cerrone winner or another challenger fight in the fall, and let Khabib get his shot if he wins later, in February 2020.

What do you care what Khabib makes for a fight? Stupid.

 

[Negator402]

khabib wasnt in any risk of goign to jail so he didnt do anything.

the nsac picked flexing it muscles and making a pointless statement to get fighters to act more professional.

dillon danis kept his mouth shut the brawl wouldnt of happened.

Wow you are a pretty gross apologist. Words make someone do something? Wrong, Khabib acted like a savage, and his two friends are worse.

 

[sometimesmaybe]

the people in charge need to sit down with khabib and see what he has to say and lay out what they feel is necessary for him to not be stripped. This can be done while hes suspended. If the two dont align you gotta strip him. Im a khabib fan due to his fights, like watching mcgregor and ferg too. Another thing to remember if hes stripped and fights again his contract is up and theres no champion clause unless its for the title and he wins. As much trouble as he seems dana does not want him in another organization any time soon.

 

[markg171]

Wait until he goes as long as Conor did without defending

Until you address McGregor holding onto two separate belts for longer periods of time with no intention of ever defending... There is zero case.

Didn’t the Irish muppet Conor hold and never defend for like 2 years?

Oh silly us. He’s Conor. I forgot.
Strip everyone else.

They created an interim FW title bout within 3 months of Conor's FW reign. He was stripped and Aldo was promoted 11 months into Conor's reign after DC pulled out last minute against Rumble so Holloway/Pettis had to become an interim title fight to save the card and they couldn't have two interim champs as that would be dumb.

They created an interim LW title bout within 3 months of Conor's LW reign. Khabib ate tiramisu on fight week and fucked it up. The UFC offered interim LW title bouts over the summer while Conor fought for them against Mayweather (and not Conor did not fight for Zuffa, this was a Zuffa sanctioned fight), but Khabib wouldn't take for Ramadan and Diaz didn't want to fight for a "fake" belt. The UFC then needed a title fight for October because Cain got injured again so they made Tony/Lee for the interim belt 11 months into Conor's reign, and agreed to give Conor time off after making an absolutely unprecedented $100M but would have to defend by spring. They then announced Conor was getting stripped for Tony/Khabib 17 months after he won the title, rather than simply having Tony promoted for some reason, while Conor was going to move up to WW for the interim WW belt against RDA.

Conor never held up the divisions. There were interim titles immediately, that fell through due to the fighters involved, not Conor. There were interim titles pursued regardless so to have a champ while he was on either other Zuffa approved fights or leave, and they rightly promoted their FW interim champ to full champ, but didn't promote their LW interim champ to full champ (in hindsight, rightly so).

But sure, it's easier to just blame Conor.

 

[snackgod]

Wow you are a pretty gross apologist. Words make someone do something? Wrong, Khabib acted like a savage, and his two friends are worse.

yes and everyone was punished or there actions.

khabib will be back after ramadon holiday so no need for a interm fight.

 

[mkess101]

They created an interim FW title bout within 3 months of Conor's FW reign. He was stripped and Aldo was promoted 11 months into Conor's reign after DC pulled out last minute against Rumble so Holloway/Pettis had to become an interim title fight to save the card and they couldn't have two interim champs as that would be dumb.

They created an interim LW title bout within 3 months of Conor's LW reign. Khabib ate tiramisu on fight week and fucked it up. The UFC offered interim LW title bouts over the summer while Conor fought for them against Mayweather (and not Conor did not fight for Zuffa, this was a Zuffa sanctioned fight), but Khabib wouldn't take for Ramadan and Diaz didn't want to fight for a "fake" belt. The UFC then needed a title fight for October because Cain got injured again so they made Tony/Lee for the interim belt 11 months into Conor's reign, and agreed to give Conor time off after making an absolutely unprecedented $100M but would have to defend by spring. They then announced Conor was getting stripped for Tony/Khabib 17 months after he won the title, rather than simply having Tony promoted for some reason, while Conor was going to move up to WW for the interim WW belt against RDA.

Conor never held up the divisions. There were interim titles immediately, that fell through due to the fighters involved, not Conor. There were interim titles pursued regardless so to have a champ while he was on either other Zuffa approved fights or leave, and they rightly promoted their FW interim champ to full champ, but didn't promote their LW interim champ to full champ (in hindsight, rightly so).

But sure, it's easier to just blame Conor.

IDGAF about "blaming" Conor or anyone else. The point is that MMA is just way better in general when you don't HAVE to constantly have interim belts made. Injuries happen and sometimes it's a necessity, but they shouldn't be for all these times that guys have other things to do besides defending their title.

Conor was given a LW title shot by going 1-1 vs Nate Diaz (who was ranked 14th or whatever at the time). Okay, fine, whatever. Economics and all that. He then bolts to go make his huge payday in boxing. Fine, no problem. I don't blame him, I'd 100% do the same damn thing. But FFS can't they just strip the title in situations like that and not do all these interim BS title fights? Because the economics are better with Conor as champ, they wouldn't do that.

I know it's not totally apples to apples, but it reminds me of when Jordan left the NBA to play baseball for 2 years. He was at that point BY FAR the biggest star the league had ever seen from an economic standpoint. The NBA as a league financially thrived in a huge way when the Bulls were winning championships led by MJ. When he tried baseball, the Rockets didn't win back to back "interim" titles, they were just the champs. If you aren't there to play (fight), you aren't the champ. No need for interim.

 

[bootsy]

when conor held the ufc hostage for 2 years him going 12-14 months isnt a big deal

They need to have a protocol and follow it. If you can’t defend within a year, give other fighters a crack at the gold.

 

[acannxr]

Whataboutism isn’t a basis of a defence

Precedent is used all the time in court.

 

[GiSP]

A case for him to be stripped doesn’t need to be made
A case for him to hold the belt needs to be made
Strip him

You kill me, bro. Well done.

 

[SherdogFan23]

If he doesn't try to reduce his suspension, he should definitely be stripped of the belt. LW is the most fun division in the UFC. Let's get everybody lined up with their next fight ASAP.

 

[Warfist]

Here's a case for NOT stripping Khabib:
We already know who the best in the division is. Taking a belt and and "Title" away from him doesn't change that. What so they can't call him 'Champion' anymore? Who gives a shit.

You only strip him if he refuses to compete like they did Conor. Once his suspension is up you know he'll fight. Maybe not in Vegas, but anywhere else where he doesn't have issues.

This is coming from someone who can't wait to see him get KO'd. It'll happen eventually...it always does. Would love to see Max be the guy to do it.