The beginning of the end of the Bidens

PainIsLIfe said:
The reporters and people in the country would be asking what came of it.

I suppose he could say we didn't find anything, but I imagine the reporters are going to want to talk the actual investigators. Especially since the pres Z ran on a reform platform.
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And like you stated, the investigators could continue to present any evidence they wanted as they are not accountable to the Ukrainian press in any way. So Trump asking for an announcement really does nothing to avoid whitewashing of evidence. Was there any other motive for Trump to ask for an announcement of an investigation?
 
Hey guys, Joe isn't the president yet. He's just a front runner to becoming the next president. So we should just stop discussing this. Maybe we can get a mod to dump the thread.

Besides, orange man bad.
 
Mr Holmes said:
Hey guys, Joe isn't the president yet. He's just a front runner to becoming the next president. So we should just stop discussing this. Maybe we can get a mod to dump the thread.

Besides, orange man bad.
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Maybe we could get some actual information that confirms anything illegal or wrong was done as opposed to conspiracy theories based on Trump saying "trust me" and other innuendo?

That seems like what would help the most for the thread.
 
andnowweknow said:
Maybe we could get some actual information that confirms anything illegal or wrong was done as opposed to conspiracy theories based on Trump saying "trust me" and other innuendo?

That seems like what would help the most for the thread.
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I guess we should hold off until CNN covers it.
 
Mr Holmes said:
I believe Trump tried to get an investigation started, but the democrats impeached him because of it.
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Your position is Trump is so fucking stupid he's unaware the United States has a justice department specifically for investigation.

You're a liar. And you know exactly what he was trying to do by asking for an announcement of an investigation (not an investigation) into a political rival using everything but official means.
 
andnowweknow said:
Your position is Trump is so fucking stupid he's unaware the United States has a justice department specifically for investigation.

You're a liar. And you know exactly what he was trying to do by asking for an announcement of an investigation (not an investigation) into a political rival using everything but official means.
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Actually, Trump was found to be not guilty. I'm glad these Biden threads have popped up. Obama and his administration were incredibility corrupt.
 
andnowweknow said:
Your position is Trump is so fucking stupid he's unaware the United States has a justice department specifically for investigation.

You're a liar. And you know exactly what he was trying to do by asking for an announcement of an investigation (not an investigation) into a political rival using everything but official means.
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He was trying to expose the corruption of the entire Obama administration. There solved it for you.
 
NC252 said:
Watch it yourself. It is all documented.
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It's an hour and half so no , wouldn't even let me fast forward , combine that with Glenn Beck not being a credible source.

It would be the equivalent of someone on the left citing Antifa Today as a source
 
NC252 said:
He was trying to expose the corruption of the entire Obama administration. There solved it for you.
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This could be interesting, what was the suspicion based on? The firing of the prosecutor Shokin?
 
AnGrYcRoW said:
It's an hour and half so no , wouldn't even let me fast forward , combine that with Glenn Beck not being a credible source.

It would be the equivalent of someone on the left citing Antifa Today as a source
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It is all sourced by Glenn Beck and there are links to all the sources at the blaze.com. This is real information that people are ignoring. There is a video of it on YouTube that you can fast-forward through but I'm sure in the coming weeks. There will be Cliff Notes available.
 
Voodoo_Child906 said:
This could be interesting, what was the suspicion based on? The firing of the prosecutor Shokin?
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The suspicion arises from the fact that the Obama Administration was running a shadow war against the Russians in Ukraine. Laundering disappearing USA money to the tune of 1.8 billion through money through Latvia And Shokin was looking into the whole ordeal. Oh and yeah. Hunter Biden was one of the people making large deposits to the Latvian bank that then alerted the ukrainians.
 
NC252 said:
The suspicion arises from the fact that the Obama Administration was running a shadow war against the Russians in Ukraine. Laundering disappearing USA money to the tune of 1.8 billion through money through Latvia And Shokin was looking into the whole ordeal. Oh and yeah. Hunter Biden was one of the people making large deposits to the Latvian bank that then alerted the ukrainians.
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The firing of Shokin had backing of the bi-partisan Senate Ukraine Caucus and signed by Senators Rob Portman (R-OH), Mark Kirk (R-IL), Ron Johnson (R-WI), Dick Durbin (D-IL), Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH), Chris Murphy (D-CT), Sherrod Brown (D-OH), Richard Blumenthal (D-CT) and urged then-Ukraine President Petro Poroshenko to press ahead with urgent reforms to the Prosecutor General’s office and judiciary.

https://www.portman.senate.gov/news...enate-ukraine-caucus-reaffirm-commitment-help

https://www.axios.com/republicans-u...den-11988d59-49e1-4e07-9b92-596575b9e68d.html

“Succeeding in these reforms will show Russian President Vladimir Putin that an independent, transparent and democratic Ukraine can and will succeed. It also offers a stark alternative to the authoritarianism and oligarchic cronyism prevalent in Russia. As such, we respectfully ask that you address the serious concerns raised by Minister Abromavičius. We similarly urge you to press ahead with urgent reforms to the Prosecutor General’s Office and judiciary. The unanimous adoption by the Cabinet of Ministers of the Basic Principles and Action Plan is a good step.”

Our Allies in the EU also wanted him out, back in 2015

https://euobserver.com/foreign/130123
"But the new prosecution chiefs - first Oleh Mahnitskyi, then Vitaly Yarema, now Viktor Shokin - have presided over a system which still looks more like a crime syndicate than a law enforcement agency."

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/why-poroshenko-s-support-for-shokin-is-dangerous/
"On October 31, protesters parked ninety-three cars outside the private residence of Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko to demand that he fire Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin. Protesters held signs demanding change and a few held placards supporting the President."

Biden's actions and words were completely consistent with the policy of the Obama administration and our allies in the EU.
 
Voodoo_Child906 said:
The firing of Shokin had backing of the bi-partisan Senate Ukraine Caucus and signed by Senators Rob Portman (R-OH), Mark Kirk (R-IL), Ron Johnson (R-WI), Dick Durbin (D-IL), Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH), Chris Murphy (D-CT), Sherrod Brown (D-OH), Richard Blumenthal (D-CT) and urged then-Ukraine President Petro Poroshenko to press ahead with urgent reforms to the Prosecutor General’s office and judiciary.

https://www.portman.senate.gov/news...enate-ukraine-caucus-reaffirm-commitment-help

https://www.axios.com/republicans-u...den-11988d59-49e1-4e07-9b92-596575b9e68d.html

“Succeeding in these reforms will show Russian President Vladimir Putin that an independent, transparent and democratic Ukraine can and will succeed. It also offers a stark alternative to the authoritarianism and oligarchic cronyism prevalent in Russia. As such, we respectfully ask that you address the serious concerns raised by Minister Abromavičius. We similarly urge you to press ahead with urgent reforms to the Prosecutor General’s Office and judiciary. The unanimous adoption by the Cabinet of Ministers of the Basic Principles and Action Plan is a good step.”

Our Allies in the EU also wanted him out, back in 2015

https://euobserver.com/foreign/130123
"But the new prosecution chiefs - first Oleh Mahnitskyi, then Vitaly Yarema, now Viktor Shokin - have presided over a system which still looks more like a crime syndicate than a law enforcement agency."

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/why-poroshenko-s-support-for-shokin-is-dangerous/
"On October 31, protesters parked ninety-three cars outside the private residence of Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko to demand that he fire Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin. Protesters held signs demanding change and a few held placards supporting the President."

Biden's actions and words were completely consistent with the policy of the Obama administration and our allies in the EU.
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Biden had the goods on all those Republicans who supposedly wanted Shokin gone as well. They were in fear for their families safety given what Joe and his son are capable of. Read a Breitbart article sometime.
 
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