Crime Texas: Two fat hillbillies kill a Father over garbage

[Slick_36]

But I thought you didn't give a shit man.

This post reads like someone who cares.

It's ok to care brah.

 

[helltoupee]

If I just threatened to kill you, yes, I would be, and rightfully so.

I guess this is the detail that I might have missed.

If you are correct, that the guns came out AFTER they were threatened, then I can certainly understand where you are coming from.

I was under the impression that the guys approached the family/orange shirt guy with guns already out, which prompted mr orange to then become unhinged at the sight of the guns.

EDIT: Thinking about this, it doesn't make much sense though, because one of the dudes is carrying a shotgun. In your scenario, they approached with weapons concealed or unarmed, orange shirt guy threatens to kill them, and then he goes home to get the shotgun?

 

[VivaRevolution]

That might change if they see these guys walk free.

Lol. Brah, the Saudis bombed a school bus, with US planes, US bombs, and US intelligence.

You think anyone gives a shit about this?

 

[Slick_36]

Lol. Brah, the Saudis bombed a school bus, with US planes, US bombs, and US intelligence.

You think anyone gives a shit about this?

I do. I'm not alone. I wish there were more. Just because more people don't care, does that justify it?

 

[VivaRevolution]

I guess this is the detail that I might have missed.

If you are correct, that the guns came out AFTER they were threatened, then I can certainly understand where you are coming from.

I was under the impression that the guys approached the family/orange shirt guy with guns already out, which prompted mr orange to then become unhinged at the sight of the guns.

EDIT: Thinking about this, it doesn't make much sense though, because one of the dudes is carrying a shotgun. In your scenario, they approached with weapons concealed or unarmed, orange shirt guy threatens to kill them, and then he goes home to get the shotgun?

I will explain this again, but this is like the 5th time.

Guy dumps matress. Old man puts it back on his property. Verbal altercation ensues. Old man pulls the gun. The kid shows up later. That is the story the finance is telling.

I don't know what actually happened before the gun was pulled, but I can promise you the old man has a different story then she does. Which is basically that this old man, with no criminal record, just pulls this gun on them.

 

[VivaRevolution]

I do. I'm not alone. I wish there were more. Just because more people don't care, does that justify it?

Justify what?

They were all idiots. I can show you actual innocent people that deserve your outrage as victims.

 

[helltoupee]

I will explain this again, but this is like the 5th time.

Guy dumps matress. Old man puts it back on his property. Verbal altercation ensues. Old man pulls the gun. The kid shows up later. That is the story the finance is telling.

I don't know what actually happened before the gun was pulled, but I can promise you the old man has a different story then she does. Which is basically that this old man, with no criminal record, just pulls this gun on them.

If Old Man initally approached brandishing a gun, he was wrong.

If Old Man approached unarmed/concealed, and then was threatened and revealed he had a firearm, then he was in the right.

Is that fair?

 

[method115]

I will explain this again, but this is like the 5th time.

Guy dumps matress. Old man puts it back on his property. Verbal altercation ensues. Old man pulls the gun. The kid shows up later. That is the story the finance is telling.

I don't know what actually happened before the gun was pulled, but I can promise you the old man has a different story then she does. Which is basically that this old man, with no criminal record, just pulls this gun on them.

Have we confirmed that they weren't allowed to dump the mattress there? It sure seems like they were under the impression that they could dump the mattress in that trash.

 

[tehJameson]

Lol @ trump tards defending their hillbilly brethren.

 

[Ghost in the Dark]

Maybe I have it wrong. I think it is always in use or force threads.

Don't you also want to ban pitbulls?

Do you own a pitbull?

 

[Ghost in the Dark]

 

[Slick_36]

Bluegrass isn't Texan, and I fucking love Bluegrass. Especially Iron Horse. That's a whole different kind of south. Not a ton of connection to the Confederacy either outside of the two weeks when stores said they were going to stop selling the flag. They exploded in popularity like guns during the Obama administration.

 

[Slick_36]

Have we confirmed that they weren't allowed to dump the mattress there? It sure seems like they were under the impression that they could dump the mattress in that trash.

I think it's debatable. It was their dumpster, but was it too big? Either way it's sort of ridiculous to start a fight over. Two jabronis with their shirts off, wasn't like they're opposed to being an eyesore.

 

[trac209]

46 pages,fuck this thread is longer than the trial and acquittal will be.

 

[My2Cents]

The old man wasn't confrontational for shit. That is something we haven't even really talked about.

I don't think he yells once. He doesn't point his gun once. He doesn't back away, but he also doesn't move forward.

You people pretending this guy is some half cocked cowboy are insane.

90% of the people I know if put in the same situation as the old man, would have confronted the guy, and if armed, would have shot that idiot. I would have too.

And that is exactly why most people shouldn’t own any. They are not up for the responsibility (as you clearly demonstrate)...

 

[My2Cents]

Man didnt even get a chance to block you, you are so triggered.
"read a fucking Article" as I literally posted one... Trolls arent too bright....
But the troll doesnt even know the castle law is for your house. He thinks it can be used anywhere LMFAO. Does the fat man live outside and claiming the world is his house? Bye bye troll. Learn a little.
You also cant claim self defense as the aggressor... And you can even hear them force the brother to the ground at the end of the video... So yes video evidence/articles > your bullshit trolling.
Hope I learnt you a lesson young man, bye bye now.

"What exactly is the Castle Doctrine? When Can Deadly Force be used for Self Defense Purposes?
In Texas, Section 9 of the Texas Penal Code provides legal justifications for the use of force in a limited set of circumstances when a person has no duty to retreat. For example, a homeowner in his own home does not have a duty to retreat and may use deadly force to protect himself against an armed intruder. This would be the same for a business owner in his place of business and a truck driver in his own truck.

Texas law provides for a justifiable defense at trial when using deadly force if the person claiming self defense:

1. Reasonably believed the deadly force was immediately necessary;
2. Had a legal right to be on the property;
3. Did not provoke the person against whom deadly force was used; and
4. Was not engaged in criminal activity at the time the deadly force was used."

https://www.bhwlawfirm.com/deadly-force-self-defense-in-texas/

Well.... those sheriffs did look like that alley was their home

 

[LangfordBarrow]

I don't agree. I think it makes him an idiot.

Nothing he did, can change that he had a legit reason to fear for his life, and defend himself.

He obviously wasn't afraid for his life. He was standing there with a gun in his hand daring the guy to give him an excuse to use it. They killed a neighbor they didn't like over a dumpster. I hope they go to jail.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

I still don't understand what anyone thinks the old man was supposed to do, when a psychopath charged him with a baseball bat.

Oops, should have just called the cops, guess I get a bat to the face now.

You draw your weapon because you fear for your safety. If you don't have to shoot you back away and get to safety. This guy knew he would easily win any confrontation being armed with a pistol and having his son backing him up with a shotgun. The extenuating circumstances were that they held their ground to defend a dumpster...

 

[Slick_36]

And that is exactly why most people shouldn’t own any. They are not up for the responsibility (as you clearly demonstrate)...

Like I said, I believe in the right to bear arms but these jackasses are a great example of why I might be wrong. I mean I still believe in the right, but there's a better argument against because of this shit.

 

[VivaRevolution]

You draw your weapon because you fear for your safety. If you don't have to shoot you back away and get to safety. This guy knew he would easily win any confrontation being armed with a pistol and having his son backing him up with a shotgun. The extenuating circumstances were that they held their ground to defend a dumpster...

I agree with you, if we are talking about what people should do.

If we are talking about if these two broke the law, I don't agree at all.