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Crime Texas: Two fat hillbillies kill a Father over garbage

Hearing your cries after Aaron was shot is one of the saddest things i've heard. I can't imagine the despair and feeling of powerlessness as a loved one is taken like that before your own eyes.

We can only hope that stupid & son get everything they deserve.
 
helltoupee said:
Kara.

I think a point of contention for a lot of people, and which isn't exactly clear in your cell phone video, is, what exactly initiated the Millers to fire their weapons?

It seems to me that a lot people are speculating that your husband actually charged at them with the bat, which is why the claims of "self-defense" are being debated.

Is that the case? Why did the Millers actually start shooting?
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I'm not Kara but I can answer this - he threw the bat vaguely in their direction (it didn't hit).
 
helltoupee said:
Kara.

I think a point of contention for a lot of people, and which isn't exactly clear in your cell phone video, is, what exactly initiated the Millers to fire their weapons?

It seems to me that a lot people are speculating that your husband actually charged at them with the bat, which is why the claims of "self-defense" are being debated.

Is that the case? Why did the Millers actually start shooting?
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He didn’t charge at them or even swing as he was too far away. And when he threw the bat after being shot in the right side of his chest twice by John, the bat hit the ground first. Aaron doubled over when he was hit in the chest, and he was holding the bat in his right hand, so I believe he was just tossing it blindly because he couldn’t hold onto it anymore. He hadn’t even stood up fully to square up his shoulders and that’s when Michael shot him in the head.
 
sniper said:
All I know is I dont want to hear "sniper from sherdog said..." coming up in any court case. So for that reason, I am out
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"Your Honor I call sniper from Sherdog to the stand"

<Lmaoo>
 
KaraHoward said:
He didn’t charge at them or even swing as he was too far away. And when he threw the bat after being shot in the right side of his chest twice by John, the bat hit the ground first. Aaron doubled over when he was hit in the chest, and he was holding the bat in his right hand, so I believe he was just tossing it blindly because he couldn’t hold onto it anymore. He hadn’t even stood up fully to square up his shoulders and that’s when Michael shot him in the head.
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Wow.

Sorry you had to go through all of that. One foot in front of the other, as they say.

Take care.
 
Final Say said:
uhhh..whet?

look i hate that this happened and dont have a full understanding of texas law, but no matter what the results of the trial are, how can you possibly say the millers are 100% responsible for it? i would have to say that is clearly false, based on the video. the dead man definitely was at least partly responsible for what happened that day. he could have made about one thousand better decisions and lived to tell about this.
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They initiated the conflict by removing the mattress, they introduced the deadly threat of the guns, and they ultimately used the guns instead of deescalating the situation. Could things have went differently had he just walked away? Of course, but nothing he ever did justified shooting him. Every threat the Millers faced was of their own making from the beginning.
 
Final Say said:
uhhh..whet?

look i hate that this happened and dont have a full understanding of texas law, but no matter what the results of the trial are, how can you possibly say the millers are 100% responsible for it? i would have to say that is clearly false, based on the video. the dead man definitely was at least partly responsible for what happened that day. he could have made about one thousand better decisions and lived to tell about this.
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yep .. the two fat disgusting slobs are right where they belong but aaron's ego ultimately got him killed .. should've just kept quiet and walked away ..

I got into a little argument at the gym the other day .. I could immediately tell the other guy was chomping at the bit to start a fight .. he was all for it .. he even started hurling insults at me .. what did I do ? bit my tongue and ignored him .. everything quieted down, I finished my workout and that was the end of it .. imagine had I gone for the bait .. I'd be looking for some other gym after getting banned or worse having to deal with an arrest and charges ..

I get that the ego gets to some .. no one likes being shown up or made to look weak but sometimes you just have to suck it up and walk away
 
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WalkenWouldOwn said:
Sorry for your loss. Don't let anything anyone said in here bother you. The people who portray the murderers as heroes only do that because they identify with them, both in their longing to shoot someone and their morbid obesity. It's clear to anyone decent and sane that these guys belong in prison.
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There are people ITT identifying with the shooters?? The father and son morans who killed a guy over leaving a mattress for trash pickup?
 
KaraHoward said:
He didn’t charge at them or even swing as he was too far away. And when he threw the bat after being shot in the right side of his chest twice by John, the bat hit the ground first. Aaron doubled over when he was hit in the chest, and he was holding the bat in his right hand, so I believe he was just tossing it blindly because he couldn’t hold onto it anymore. He hadn’t even stood up fully to square up his shoulders and that’s when Michael shot him in the head.
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They are garbage just like the posters itt defending them.
 
Trotsky said:
There are people ITT identifying with the shooters?? The father and son morans who killed a guy over leaving a mattress for trash pickup?
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Very very select few dumbasses trying to say that since the guy had a baseball bat, it was self defense

Not very many at all, and the type of posters that just like to be edge lords
 
This thread is an emotional rollercoaster. I don't know whether to make jokes or not.
 
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