Teddy Atlas: Floyd didn't carry Conor

[Tapatio]

Of course he carried Conor.

Teddy Atlas isn't God. Floyd says he carried Conor. Several professional boxers have said Floyd carried Conor. It's just obvious. Anyone who knows boxing knows it's obvious, and since Teddy knows boxing, he's probably got an angle to saying this, and saying it at this specific time.

Atlas has been getting more into MMA commentary now. It's possible he just wants to get on the good side of MMA's biggest star. Money and opportunities will make people say all sorts of crap. A Conor McGregor exclusive interview would further get Teddy into the MMA commentary game, and there is money in that. Talking about fighting is his livelyhood, and big boxing fights are mostly dead during the pandemic. So Teddy isn't getting paid right now. Getting into the MMA/UFC commentary game with these sort of statements is a good business plan.

Also, Teddy would make a windfall offering to train McGregor for a rematch with Floyd or another boxing match with someone like Manny Pacciquio. So there several $$$$$$ reasons for him to say this.

Teddy Atlas is a hustler, just like a lot of people in the fight game. He has knowledge and some good insights, but he's not above talking complete bullshit if there if financial incentive or it can help his career.

Overrated as a trainer. Also, he's always been angling for a boxing commission to oversee the sport. Its because he wants to be its first commissioner. And now he's tapped into mma because it's good for his podcast numbers.

 

[SKSer45]

Well for all us Boxing Junkies, Floyd's toughest test was Miguel Cotto. Cotto boxed him and bloodied Floyd. A real dog fight but also a clear victory for Floyd.

That being Said. Floyd was just having some fun with Connor. He know exactly what he was doing. Letting Connor punch him self out and build some false confidence. Granted, I was impressed how Connor looked for having zero professional boxing experience. Also, a bit shocked to see Floyd looked old. His legs, and reflexes were not the same as his younger days.

But Floyd is the GOAT and did GOAT things against Connor.

 

[suffersystem]

I keep hearing that Floyd carried him and Conor took the first three and almost more. Score card Conor only one the first. Only one of the judges gave Conor the second and third, everything else was all floyd.

 

[xn7]

Bullshit. Floyd carried the living shit outta Conor.

He laid back on the gas pedal, gave Conor a false sense of security, tired him out... then took him out of there with relative ease

problem is that's not the definition of carried

 

[Slippage]

It's obvious if you dont actually think things through.

90% of the boxers, legends and analysts showed him a lot of respect.

Maybe 10% said he carried him. Many were connected to mayweathers own camp.

Majority havent jumped on that train.

Nobody actually cares about Conor or MMA. If it were true you'd think the media would be full of countless boxers shouting from the hills that he got carried but no.

It is LARGELY a fan perpetuated narrative.

You think Teddy only said this to try and get a Conor interview or something? Some of the mental gymnastics you guys to through in order to have conviction in this shit is crazy.

I arrived at the same conclusion independently and I've boxed / watched boxing for a long time. Dude just gave his honest opinion.

This is delusional. Either Teddy has gone senile or he has an ulterior motive. I think it's the latter. As someone else said, Teddy spends much of his time talking about MMA now on his podcast, because there are few big boxing fights on right now .

Attracting MMA fans to his podcast=$$$$$, more sponsors etc etc.

Especially fantatical Conor fans who want his performance against Floyd to feel validated by an "expert".

Teddy is using guys like you with this utter guff (he should know better), and laughing all the way to the bank. Like they say, there is a sucker born every minute. Respect Teddy's hustle though. He knows what buttons to push to get his newfound MMA audience eating out of his hand. A 16 page thread for a 3 year old boxing match proves it. LOL!

And trust me, Conor is delusional enough to use Teddy's words as evidence to sell a Floyd rematch, and make his fans believe the outcome might be different. Ultimately, this may be great business for Floyd and Conor, if Conor's fans believe Teddy's horseshit and buy the PPV's for a rematch.

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

Just like Floyd did against that Asian dude, right? <45>

Floyd wanted to take Conor out as quickly as he possibly could. Floyd shouldn't have been in a ring more than about 60 seconds with a guy in his first ever professional boxing appearance. Mayweather knew the longer the bout lasted the worse it would look for him.

And it ended up looking really fucking bad for Floyd.

The other fight was a 3 round exhibition. The fight with Conor was a 12 round pro match. If he had fought Conor a 3 rounder then he'd have come out for the finish right away.

Ridiculous to try and compare the two

 

[Shaddows]

I don't think I am reading too much into it. There really isn't much to read into. Atlas said two very simple things and that is Floyd was out of his prime and that based on Floyds style, it's not his game to be on the offense and just attack like he did in the later part of the fight. And that is why Conor made it to round 10.

Floyd does usually take a few rounds to feel his opponents out, pretty much most successful boxers do and then open up. But Conor proved to be a bit more of a challenge in that aspect than most expected and that is why it took Floyd 10 rounds to get it done. So it's not that he carried him, it's more that he waited till the risk was limited and then pressed the fight the last few rounds till the finish came once he had the fight figured out. That's not carrying an opponent, it's just a strategic win.

again, you are assuming he felt any threat coming from Conor.
I disagree.
Conor never did anything to put Floyd in the least amount of trouble.

Floyd let the fight go because if he ended too fast, no one would purchase a rematch. Just look for how long they spoke about rematch, and people still think "conor won" some rounds.
I mean, we both got absolutely no proof one way or another, but I think it is blind fanboyism to think that a guy who never fought in boxing pose any dangers to one of the all time boxing GOATS.
I rather not be so blind.

the same way I expect that, if they fought in MMA and the fight got to round 2 or 3, it would be because COnor let it happen.

 

[Al Stone]

Rounds 1-3 were in no way typical of Floyd. He's a relatively low output fighter but never in his career has he ever attempted less than 10 punches in a round. He came in knowing that he wouldn't fight back into round 4. You hear him confirming not in the corner after round 3.

Conor did better than he had any right to tho.

Exactly this and I dont even think Floyd tried much or cared at all for at least the first 6 rounds. Shit is comical

 

[VitorReem]

Teddy has been an annoying troll for years talking shit and crying about everybody he’s jealous of. It’s embarrassing.

 

[Al Stone]

People are stoooopid.

I mean, what other time has Floyd employed a walking forward without throwing punches strategy against any top fighter?

Are you idiots going to tell me as well that Floyd was putting 100% skill and effort into this fight because Conor posed a threat?

I can't remember the last time that Floyd fought so casually, like he was fighting an amateur.

People still arguing and thinking that Conor "won" rounds when the reality is that Floyd didn't fight in those rounds and gave them away freely.

Shhh let them have their fantasy. Bet cash against them next time an obvious cash grab manipulates people

 

[Al Stone]

Floyd didn't take 9 rounds off. He didnt take 9 rounds seriously...

This fight wasn't characteristic of his typical boxing against opponents who had the skill to beat him had Floyd made any critical mistake. Floyd was much more relaxed, and anyone who didn't have their eyes on Conor's dick the whole fight could tell.

Floyds biggest amount of effort in the entire fight was the ending of the fight.

Keep sucking Conor's dick, it's not going to change the fact that Floyd toyed with him and Conor accomplished nothing the entire fight other than what Floyd was willing to give to him.

I only wish everyone could've seen what the fight would've looked like had Floyd been 100% serious and wasn't fucking around for an easy payday.

False Conor landed one solid uppercut. Give him his Proper

 

[Kryptt]

 

[JKS]

again, you are assuming he felt any threat coming from Conor.
I disagree.
Conor never did anything to put Floyd in the least amount of trouble.

Floyd let the fight go because if he ended too fast, no one would purchase a rematch. Just look for how long they spoke about rematch, and people still think "conor won" some rounds.
I mean, we both got absolutely no proof one way or another, but I think it is blind fanboyism to think that a guy who never fought in boxing pose any dangers to one of the all time boxing GOATS.
I rather not be so blind.

the same way I expect that, if they fought in MMA and the fight got to round 2 or 3, it would be because COnor let it happen.

You're not blind, you just don't know Floyd very well and that's where you are wrong my friend. It's not about feeling a threat, it's about being a professional and never underestimating anyone. Floyd knew, most level headed fans including myself knew that the chance of Conor catching Floyd is slim. But the fact is that there is a chance with anyone in a sport like boxing where heavy punches are thrown. Conor caught him early with a few nice shots so Floyd knew not to disregard Conor as as a threat.

I've watched Floyd for over 15 years, one thing I'll tell you is he never underestimates anyone and prepares for everything and that is why he has the flawless record that he does, he doesn't take many risks. It would be stupid not to think his opponent, who is a professional fighter poses no threat to him and actually act on it early in the fight. Once the fight went beyond the 5th round and Floyd got a feel for him, that's when he changed it up and felt less danger so he moved forward.

What do you think @MescalineDreams

 

[Small Town Andrew]

Who cares it was a shit fight either way

 

[Greco_Wiz]

Only people who believe that Floyd intentionally carried Mcgregor are the embarrassed boxing fans. Took 10 rounds and losing a few to beat a 0-0 boxer.... doesn’t look good for the sport. Floyd had zero incentive to carry McGregor. Didn’t make him more money.

Look at what happened when Floyd faced Tenshin. Weird how he didn’t “carry” that fight. Ended it as soon as he could and got a paycheck.

 

[MescalineDreams]

This is delusional. Either Teddy has gone senile or he has an ulterior motive. I think it's the latter. As someone else said, Teddy spends much of his time talking about MMA now on his podcast, because there are few big boxing fights on right now .

Attracting MMA fans to his podcast=$$$$$, more sponsors etc etc.

Especially fantatical Conor fans who want his performance against Floyd to feel validated by an "expert".

Teddy is using guys like you with this utter guff (he should know better), and laughing all the way to the bank. Like they say, there is a sucker born every minute. Respect Teddy's hustle though. He knows what buttons to push to get his newfound MMA audience eating out of his hand. A 16 page thread for a 3 year old boxing match proves it. LOL!

And trust me, Conor is delusional enough to use Teddy's words as evidence to sell a Floyd rematch, and make his fans believe the outcome might be different. Ultimately, this may be great business for Floyd and Conor, if Conor's fans believe Teddy's horseshit and buy the PPV's for a rematch.

Yeah except it's not teddy

Dozens and dozens of elite pro boxers, legends, analysts and trainers gave Conor a great deal of respect post fight.

The idea that Floyd carried him is a predominantly fan driven narrative.

Only a small percentage of boxers have suggested it. The vast majority showed respect. Including top 5 all time great sugar ray Leonard who was commentating that night.

They're all old and senile too I guess.

 

[mraa1]

yes he did. just like he took it easy on nasukawa until he realized nasukawa was actually trying to knock his head off.

 

[Avenue]

This all teddy does, just run his mouth for attention

 

[Slippage]

Yeah except it's not teddy

Dozens and dozens of elite pro boxers, legends, analysts and trainers gave Conor a great deal of respect post fight.

The idea that Floyd carried him is a predominantly fan driven narrative.

Only a small percentage of boxers have suggested it. The vast majority showed respect. Including top 5 all time great sugar ray Leonard who was commentating that night.

They're all old and senile too I guess.

A lot of people were pretending or thought it was a real contest immediately post the fight. Floyd did his job by carrying Conor decently, so the event didn't look like a farce. That's the whole point of carrying him. It was a work.

It was only in the weeks aftermath, as enough people had time to examine and rewatch the fight, and realise that Floyd barely trained either did it become commonly accepted that Floyd carried him. And a lot of fighters said it as well. It's far from just a "fan theory".

But hey, I hope you enjoy Floyd/Conor 2, which this nonsense is probably mentally prepping Conor fans for. You will make Floyd another 300 million in a fight he will win with his eyes closed. But you'll help make Conor more money as well, so he doesn't have to take hard UFC fights. If I was Conor, I'd rather get slapped around a boxing ring by Floyd for a couple of rounds again for over a hundred million bucks, than face killers in the UFC for maybe 20 million.

 

[MescalineDreams]

A lot of people were pretending or thought it was a real contest immediately post the fight. Floyd did his job by carrying Conor decently, so the event didn't look like a farce. That's the whole point of carrying him. It was a work.

It was only in the weeks aftermath, as enough people had time to examine and rewatch the fight, and realise that Floyd barely trained either did it become commonly accepted that Floyd carried him. And a lot of fighters said it as well. It's far from just a "fan theory".

But hey, I hope you enjoy Floyd/Conor 2, which this nonsense is probably mentally prepping Conor fans for. You will make Floyd another 300 million in a fight he will win with his eyes closed. But you'll help make Conor more money as well, so he doesn't have to take hard UFC fights. If I was Conor, I'd rather get slapped around a boxing ring by Floyd for a couple of rounds again for over a hundred million bucks, than face killers in the UFC for maybe 20 million.

Couldnt give a shit either way bud

I'm a fan of everyone.

Been a fan of floyd long before any of these mma guys existed.

Just trying to call it as I see it. Thankfully I'm in fairly good company when it comes to how i see things.

Either way you're entitled to think what you want. Enjoy the fights and drama.