Teddy Atlas: Floyd didn't carry Conor

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

You probably never saw floyd fight if you believe this...Floyd takes exceptional pride in not getting hit and was never once shy of fighting a NOT crowd pleasing fight.. Connor had decent elusiviness fresh, always had and is busy fighter with crap gas tank.

Its the matchups, connor would look way crappier agaisnt a more relentless boxer. But he got talent considering everything.

Seen all of his fights. Never in his career has he thrown less than 10 punches in a round before this. Floyd let Conor punch himself out with no attention of returning fire

 

[gevoudane]

Your cousin would eliminate McGregor in a Boxing fight? Is your cousin waiting for Penn at the airport?

In case you don't know what the hell I'm saying, the joke about meeting Penn at the airport has been around Sherdog for many, MANY years.



@MescalineDreams

I know the Penn joke. Also dont miss quote people, I said my cousin would beat Conor in a boxing match. And to be fair he would beat most non boxers in a boxing match pretty easily.

 

[KID Yamamoto]

I think he wasn't at his best but I don't think he was taking Conor super easy either. Floyd at his best could have stopped Conor round 2 but he wasn't just fucking with him.

 

[Captain Herb]

Conor's been carried his whole career

 

[MescalineDreams]

You probably never saw floyd fight if you believe this...Floyd takes exceptional pride in not getting hit and was never once shy of fighting a NOT crowd pleasing fight.. Connor had decent elusiviness fresh, always had and is busy fighter with crap gas tank.

Its the matchups, connor would look way crappier agaisnt a more relentless boxer. But he got talent considering everything.

Why is this logic so hard to grasp

Its basics lol

 

[MescalineDreams]

As a boxer he sucks, its not shitting on him its the truth. My cousin would beat Conor in a boxing match, nothing wrong with it Conor isnt a boxer.. But now argue the point and prove how great his boxing talent is.

Guess sugar ray Leonard was wrong

Conor didn't exhibit boxing talent

You single handedly refuted it.

 

[Crash Lance]

I know the Penn joke. Also dont miss quote people, I said my cousin would beat Conor in a boxing match.

The fact is, I'm not misquoting anyone. You wrote that, "My cousin would beat Conor in a boxing match."

I wrote, "Your cousin would eliminate Conor McGregor in a Boxing fight?"

That's basically the same thing. You're just discussing semantics.

A Boxing fight is basically the same thing as a Boxing match.

The term "ELIMINATE" is basically the same thing as the term "BEAT."

McGregor is Conor. Conor is McGregor.

Conor McGregor is Conor McGregor.

Conor McGregor is "The Notorious."

Conor McGregor is "The Notorious" Conor McGregor.

Conor McGregor is "The Notorious One."

Conor McGregor is Conor "Notorious" McGregor.

I know the Penn joke. Also dont miss quote people, I said my cousin would beat Conor in a boxing match. And to be fair he would beat most non boxers in a boxing match pretty easily.

The fact is, I would pay $1-$5 to see McGregor DECAPITATE your cousin.

No matter what the result is, I'M THE ONE WHO WINS.

Even if your cousin can somehow (by some miracle) actually ELIMINATE MCGREGOR IN A BOXING FIGHT, I was able to watch your cousin continue to erase the legend of Conor McGregor and decrease the reputation of Conor McGregor.

Before gevoudane says it: "The joke's on you, Crash Lance. My cousin is TYSON FURY."

Guess sugar ray Leonard was wrong

Conor didn't exhibit boxing talent

You single handedly refuted it.

Yep. Leonard knows LESS about winning Boxing fights than gevoudane does.

Leonard knows LESS about winning Boxing fights than the cousin of gevoudane does.

Leonard knows LESS about WATCHING and dissecting Boxing fights than gevoudane does.

Leonard knows LESS about WATCHING and dissecting Boxing fights than the cousin of gevoudane does.

 

[Roids]

It's a testament to Conor that this whole 'carried him' narrative has been created to excuse how amazingly well Conor done in his first boxing fight he landed more punches and won more rounds than most Floyd opponents including Canelo. Suck it up folks.

 

[Slippage]

It's a testament to Conor that this whole 'carried him' narrative has been created to excuse how amazingly well Conor done in his first boxing fight he landed more punches and won more rounds than most Floyd opponents including Canelo. Suck it up folks.

LOL!

Floyd barely threw any punches at all in the first couple of rounds. Then he walked down Conor with zero regard for his defense, which Floyd would never do against a high level boxer. Surely you can't be this delusional?

Floyd went out of his way to make Conor look decent/good early on, saw no threat in Conor, so more or less abandoned his defense and proceeded to end the fight in exactly the round he tried to bet himself on ending it.

It was one of the greatest heists/works/scams in modern sporting history. Hats off to Floyd for pulling it off.

 

[loisestrad]

LOL!

Floyd barely threw any punches at all in the first couple of rounds. Then he walked down Conor with zero regard for his defense, which Floyd would never do against a high level boxer. Surely you can't be this delusional?

Floyd went out of his way to make Conor look decent/good early on, saw no threat in Conor, so more or less abandoned his defense and proceeded to end the fight in exactly the round he tried to bet himself on ending it.

It was one of the greatest heists/works/scams in modern sporting history. Hats off to Floyd for pulling it off.

Hats off to you for still caring after 4 years.

The fact that you still care probably makes you a bit weird though, and not to be trusted when it comes to actual analysis of the fight.

 

[Xuh]

If Floyd wasn't carrying Conor, why did he drop him?

 

[Crash Lance]

In Boxing fights, Floyd Mayweather Jr. has a record of 50-0.

In Boxing fights, Conor McGregor has a record of 0-1.

Floyd Mayweather Jr. is 1-0 against Conor McGregor.

Floyd Mayweather Jr. stopped Conor McGregor in a Boxing fight.

The fact is, those are the only statistics that matter.

All of these fans of McGregor are wrong because they created a thread that has over 340 messages in it just to write about some type of "moral victory" that McGregor accomplished.

Whether or not McGregor "looked amazing in DEFEAT," the fact remains that McGregor still lost the war.

At the end of the day, McGregor was only having Boxing fights in order to collect a gargantuan (by his standards) paycheck.

Today is 2020. McGregor already collected his ENORMOUS (by his standards of paychecks) paycheck.

There are rumors that McGregor wants to have a Boxing fight against Pacquiao. If and when that Boxing fight happens, we'll see what the result is.

 

[Slippage]

Hats off to you for still caring after 4 years.

The fact that you still care probably makes you a bit weird though, and not to be trusted when it comes to actual analysis of the fight.

What are you even talking about? I haven't given this fight much thought in years. I'm talking about right now it because it's a very active recent thread (started by a Conor fan I might add) and this is a message board, where y'know, people talk about stuff on recent active threads.

If anyone is a weirdo, it's you for even acting like that is supposed to be some sort of issue. It's a 16 page thread bro...it's a hot topic on Sherdog for this week anyway.

You Conortards are like cultists or something. LOL!

 

[loisestrad]

What are you even talking about? I haven't given this fight much thought in years. I'm talking about right now it because it's a very active recent thread and this is a message board, where y'know, people talk about stuff on recent active threads.

If anyone is a weirdo, it's you for even acting like that is supposed to be some sort of issue. It's a 16 page thread bro...it's a hot topic on Sherdog for this week anyway.

You Conortards are like cultists or something. LOL!

Again: Hats off to you for caring.

Bye.

 

[burningspear]

Floyd played it safe early on, he didn't know what to expect. Floyd put it on him in later rounds.

Exactly, plain as day. The guys who say Floyd could have finished it whenever he felt are living in cuckoo land.

 

[SharpasaRazor]

I agree with Teddy up to a point but also think that:

A - Floyd knew he would be rusty as hell and that Conor has problems with his stamina, so he built that into his game plan in virtually throwing nothing in the early rounds. This allowed him to ease into it, check Conor out and fully get his timing, pretty safe in the knowledge that Conor couldn't put him out.

B - I'm also pretty certain that Floyd put bets on the fight that included the 10th rnd TKO, I had 9th round TKO and I remember realising in the 9th that Floyd was taking him into the 10th pretty deliberately.

C - Floyd knew that an early KO didn't do anything for him in the way of leaving it open for a rematch, so really he had no reason to go looking for it.

All in all I don't think Floyd just chose to drag the fight out, fully aware he could put Conor away at any moment. Floyd knew that he was dealing with a much bigger, rangey guy with some power who could fight a bit and he knows that going after guys isn't what he does best. So Floyd opted for an approach that he figured worked for him, he wasnt going to go looking to KO Conor early or put it on him from the first bell because had he done so he may well have fucked up, so he just did what worked best for him and got what he wanted.

 

[BennyST]

Yes.

Floyd fought like Floyd always fights. Safe, defensive, counter punching. Conor is much bigger and longer, and likely much better than Floyd realized. After Conor started to gas Floyd took over, but that doesn’t negate some of the clean shots Conor landed in the first few rounds. Very few fighters have landed as clean on Floyd as Conor did, even if it seemed to have little effect. Watching him slip and rip Mayweather in rd. 1 was surreal.

That’s not really true. It seemed to have little effect because it actually did have little effect.There is a big difference between clean effective shots with power from a boxer, and lots of little slappy arm punches. Very few boxers will bother with slappy arm punches for no reason, unless they’re pure volume punchers like Calzaghe. I think people were surprised Conor landed at all and as much as he did, but it was largely ineffective shots that were slappy arm punches that were essentially to keep Mayweather busy. Mayweather knew it and that’s why he just walked in throwing, for him, wild right hands.

Even those counter uppercuts that did land (his best shots) were exaggerated absurdly by a lot of people. Anyway, a lot of boxers have landed significantly cleaner, harder, more effective shots that would have kept Mayweather on his toes for the whole fight rather than him just looking for the KO unworried. Not as many because he didn’t fight them walking into them simply looking to land his own power shots. It’s just they get overlooked because Conor landing at all was unexpected.

 

[Melas Chasma]

If Floyd wasn't carrying Conor, why did he drop him?

That would be funny, but he never dropped Conor.

 

[Topguntrophey]

This “fight” is still being talked about? My word...

 

[GrantB13]

I'd have to watch the fight again, but I wouldn't totally agree. He definitely didn't try to get Conor out of the fight in the first couple rounds but that doesn't mean he was struggling to win.