Taekwondo is super disrespected

[GearSolidMetal]

I never understood TKD's obsession with board breaking. It's one of the most useless ways to exhibit your skill. North Korean special forces guys also love showing off their board breaking skills as if that has anything to do with modern combat.

Because it's the same KungFu bullshit propagated in the 60s & 70s.

"Oh, they're breaking boards. They're so powerful." When in reality they're practically balsa wood. I broke boards for by Blue & Green Belt tests.

They're a less sophisticated 'One Inch Punch' by Bruce Lee which is an impressive magician's trick.

 

[ROcknrollracing]

My college once had a TKD seminar / demonstration and after the boards were broken some of us were playing around trying to break smaller and smaller pieces of the board. I broke the smallest piece I could find with a simple straight right and it amazed everyone watching lol. This was before I even trained in anything.

I never understood TKD's obsession with board breaking. It's one of the most useless ways to exhibit your skill. North Korean special forces guys also love showing off their board breaking skills as if that has anything to do with modern combat.

It is just a demonstration that they are proficient with a given strike there is nothing more to it. In karate they have some freaks that hammer fist through gigantic slabs of ice.

 

[Royce Greasy]

Whenever it hits they go limb

Yes its devastating.

 

[WDSTK]

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Because it's the same KungFu bullshit propagated in the 60s & 70s.

"Oh, they're breaking boards. They're so powerful." When in reality they're practically balsa wood. I broke boards for by Blue & Green Belt tests.

They're a less sophisticated 'One Inch Punch' by Bruce Lee which is an impressive magician's trick.

Boards are soft pine which is standard grade lumber you buy at Home Depot and cut to size and you break across the grain. We did board breaking in testing in TKD and Karate but did not give any time to it in training. It was a very small part of the art and of our testing. Some chose to always do easy breaks in the testing like 2 boards. I agree breaking is just for advertising when done in public. In testing, it was basically a brief mental excercise. We did do knuckle pushups for conditioning but nothing else. I hit a Makarwi board at home and do the knuckle pushups. I am training for a 4-5 board break with my right fist for black belt having already done 3. Also there are suspended (hold top of board with fingers) and supported breaks (hands on both sides of the board or set the boards over top of 2 concrete blocks) with the suspended much harder because you need more speed than mass to break the board. I have only done a 2 board suspended break with my left jab. My breaking style looks like an overhand right as I punch harder using my boxing. My instructor did a board break with his thumb and of course the common baseball bat with his shin. He was a karate, boxing and kickboxing pro fighter. There was a Chinese guy I read about who would punch steel and the size of the calcium deposits on his knuckles were huge. He was a small guy but I would not want to be punched by him. I have a good calcium deposit on my right hand big knuckle but nowhere that big. I hope with my conditioning, I would not break my hand if I missed a punch in self defence and hit the forehead. Otherwise pretty much useless in my opinion except for the mental confidence especially for kids.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

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Boards are soft pine which is standard grade lumber you buy at Home Depot and cut to size and you break across the grain. We did board breaking in testing in TKD and Karate but did not give any time to it in training. It was a very small part of the art and of our testing. Some chose to always do easy breaks in the testing like 2 boards. I agree breaking is just for advertising when done in public. In testing, it was basically a brief mental excercise. We did do knuckle pushups for conditioning but nothing else. I hit a Makarwi board at home and do the knuckle pushups. I am training for a 4-5 board break with my right fist for black belt having already done 3. My breaking style looks like an overhand right as I punch harder using my boxing. My instructor did a board break with his thumb and of course the common baseball bat with his shin. He was a karate, boxing and kickboxing pro fighter. There was a Chinese guy I read about who would punch steel and the size of the calcium deposits on his knuckles were huge. He was a small guy but I would not want to be punched by him. I have a good calcium deposit on my right hand big knuckle but nowhere that big.

This video really shows what a joke board-breaking is.

 

[Trabaho]

I don't like traditional martial arts. I like effective combst sports.

I like tkd half way.

I love kicks.

Why does tkd not have low kicks ?

And why they don't properly block anything ? Are there rules that you gotta keep your hands down ? Can you block kicks with your knees ?

 

[HunterAcosta]

My buddy /instructor is a 7 th Dan TKD . Still lightning fast at 57. When younger In street fight he straight KTFOed seizured bad a dude with spin hook kick which was a fast as Edson Barboza KO in UFC

 

[Intermission]

He's full of shit but at least he doesn't still say it's useless

 

[Trabaho]

He's full of shit but at least he doesn't still say it's useless

He is a tkd champ in his youth. I mean most people don´t take it serious I guess and he trained hard and brain damaged scocer dads.

 

[Intermission]

He is a tkd champ in his youth. I mean most people don´t take it serious I guess and he trained hard and brain damaged scocer dads.

There are other ways to train Taekwondo than the way he did with no boxing.

By the way, it's pronounced Tei, not thai....

 

[Legendary]

I started TKD at age 5 and went all the way to age 14. Like any martial art, there is a huge variation in the quality of instructors. Sometimes you get lucky and get someone who knows how to train people, and sometimes you get a more watered down version. I was pretty lucky to be trained by a legit Korean dude who knew what he was doing in terms of instruction.

TKD is unfortunately one of the most commercialized martial arts and your chance of getting a McDojo is higher, but to this day some of the most deadly kickers I've ever seen come from Karate and Tae Kwon Do. They just also learn how to box, grapple, and can kick with the shin, foot, or heel interchangeably.

 

[pugilistico]

I started TKD at age 5 and went all the way to age 14. Like any martial art, there is a huge variation in the quality of instructors. Sometimes you get lucky and get someone who knows how to train people, and sometimes you get a more watered down version. I was pretty lucky to be trained by a legit Korean dude who knew what he was doing in terms of instruction.

TKD is unfortunately one of the most commercialized martial arts and your chance of getting a McDojo is higher, but to this day some of the most deadly kickers I've ever seen come from Karate and Tae Kwon Do. They just also learn how to box, grapple, and can kick with the shin, foot, or heel interchangeably.

It's the same thing in Korea unfortunately. You see 5 year olds with blackbelts given out as participation awards. But it's a weird sport that as a very broad range of seriousness. You have mcdojos all the way up to Olympic athletes. A TKD blackbelt could be a weeb who's never done anything athletic in his life or he could an Olympian. What other martial art does that? Maybe the general umbrella of karate or kungfu?

A boxer or or muay thai guy even at the lowest level still knows how to scrap a bit.

 

[Fedorgasm]

TKD shouldn't be on the bottom. I'd rank it above aikido, most kung fu styles, and tai chi.

Live sparring vs a resisting opponent is the litmus test to see if a martial art is legit.

TKD at least has live sparring, so it helps you with timing, speed, fighting through pain, endurance, etc.

It's highly dependent on the school though. There are a lot of mcdojo karate schools that do little to no live sparring. But then there are styles like kyukoshin where you spar a lot.

 

[SandisLL]

It's the same thing in Korea unfortunately. You see 5 year olds with blackbelts given out as participation awards. But it's a weird sport that as a very broad range of seriousness. You have mcdojos all the way up to Olympic athletes. A TKD blackbelt could be a weeb who's never done anything athletic in his life or he could an Olympian. What other martial art does that? Maybe the general umbrella of karate or kungfu?

A boxer or or muay thai guy even at the lowest level still knows how to scrap a bit.

I don't agree that that they can't punch , not alone to talk about kicks.

It depends from gym. Some does have heavy bags and high S/C requirements, are pressing to compete in tournaments even coloured belts etc. Some are ...so so.
BTW black belt in TKD is mando requirement to get allowed in some tournaments etc.
Instructors are with ranks higher than 1 st d black belt etc.


There ofc is big difference to get BB in Central/ Eastern Europe or in U.S ....
1. Term black belt alone doesn't makes sense in these areas at all.
2. Sense makes rankings, are you listed that had cups, medals, worked as instructors etc.
Cos they have xx death superpuper arts, even with 0 contact used where you might get xx belts....if $ on the table.

In europe TKD BB usually takes 4-8 years to get... it isn't high PR value or value for job market at all and if you are instructor you have higher rank than just 1 d black belt.

Karate too does have....different gyms....sorry for reality....gyms not dojo in reality.

Some does have high requirements for physical condition and these are problems for a lot of students. Some are just pushing air, some does have ketleballs and heavy bags in guym...not only boards. They are doing pull ups and push ups, jumping, running etc stuff... Some even are lifting weights, ofc not till oly weightlifters level.

Shotokan and TKD does have some flaws if to talk about their usage in KB for example under K-1 rules...
They not rare cases does have cross training in boxing ....if compete under KB rules.

Training they does have might be from air pushing and movements to get belt till reality that they are using more than 50% time for training for S/C type stuff and then they might make problems even without any " fighting technique " used.
Just cos really athletic, low fat, muscles etc.

 

[SandisLL]

It is just a demonstration that they are proficient with a given strike there is nothing more to it. In karate they have some freaks that hammer fist through gigantic slabs of ice.

Cos Ice is freezed according to schedule...

Still a lot of them does use for example also heavy bags, like these pro boxers and pro KBers does use etc reality.