Taekwondo is super disrespected

[GearSolidMetal]

I don't know if anyone of these do fighting but they specialize in concentrated force.

If they sweep the technique the board won't break, so they must really lock in their hip at moment of impact

This is fancy, but are we expected to believe a Thai kickboxer, who has never taken a lesson in TKD, couldn't break those boards with a kick? Or a boxer couldn't break those boards with a punch?

 

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This is fancy, but are we expected to believe a Thai kickboxer, who has never taken a lesson in TKD, couldn't break those boards with a kick? Or a boxer couldn't break those boards with a punch?

1000 pounds of force for that Thai roundhouse kick or 453 kg


Hardest Side Kick meaured 2000 pounds or
900 kilograms.

Can a heavyweight thaiboxer push that force up to 2000 pounds? Don't know. But it's a big variation between competitors.

My guess is they will trail behind 25%.

 

[Rallarsvingare]

"their kicks doesnt have much power except for the spinning kicks" well then you don't know much about TKD if you think the spinning kicks are the powerful ones, the back kick or turning side kick is by far the most powerful kick more so imo then any kick in martial arts its not a spinning kick but a turn of the hips to execute it kind of like a horse kick if you can imagine, watch Sakuraba vs Belfort in Pride and this kick basically won the fight for Sakuraba.

Whatever mate, english is not my first language, the spinning shit Im referring too is the back kick, horse kick or whatever people want to call it in english.

 

[Royce Greasy]

Hardest kicks I’ve ever felt were when a TKD school would come cross train with our mma gym. Holding the kick shield for those turning back kicks is awful.

Last time I got dropped I was wearing a belly pad and one of my fighters sniped me to the liver with a side kick during our pad session. Fucker.

Absolutely the back kick I was particularly good at and when an average sized man would hold the shield I could send him 10 or 12 feet back.

 

[Royce Greasy]

1000 pounds of force for that Thai roundhouse kick or 453 kg


Hardest Side Kick meaured 2000 pounds or
900 kilograms.

Can a heavyweight thaiboxer push that force up to 2000 pounds? Don't know. But it's a big variation between competitors.

My guess is they will trail behind 25%.

Ya I don't event think its a question that they have the most powerful kicks, the TKD lose because they don't really use the most effective kicks and they get boxed which TKD is terrible at they have almost no punching that's a big hole.

 

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Ya I don't event think its a question that they have the most powerful kicks, the TKD lose because they don't really use the most effective kicks and they get boxed which TKD is terrible at they have almost no punching that's a big hole.

Russians dont lose. They are still hardcore

 

[DoctorTaco]

Absolutely the back kick I was particularly good at and when an average sized man would hold the shield I could send him 10 or 12 feet back.

Now imagine me as a bantamweight getting blasted lol

 

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Spinning back kick has a rival

 

[noc]

If you do a lot of forward pressure and don't allow a kicker to get set, he will lose alot of power.

That's how you beat them

With sidesteps and pivots they would be fine. But they don't train that

 

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With sidesteps and pivots they would be fine. But they don't train that

Are you talking about just defence now?

 

[Iroh]

lol the YTers sound like a specific poster who used to like to shit on TMA a lot and unnecessarily.

 

[noc]

Are you talking about just defence now?

Defence and setting up counters, they are used for that

 

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lol the YTers sound like a specific poster who used to like to shit on TMA a lot and unnecessarily.

Well TKD folks get the last laugh

 

[SandisLL]

That's really the issue. Competition rulesets influence training.

Exactly this. Clubs needs students and sponsors. So they are interested to have students with cups and medals etc....better if easy to Google up ofc.
For oly type tkd ofc also here depends will you get students in Olympic team or no etc.

So if you have such target, ofc you need to automatize student to do stuff that allows get scored better and is according to rules ofc. Also ofc easier visible for judges and public.

So you are mainly drilling guy to deliver long range high kicks and long range punches ....

 

[SandisLL]

Bare in mind, Taekwondo was sold as THIS. Most people can't get that out of the product.

And that guy would stop any Gene Lebell in his tracks with one well placed kick

No.

 

[Royce Greasy]

Spinning back kick has a rival

Spinning heel kick is low percentage though very hard kick to land, back kick is higher percentage and is does a ton of damage but I'll admit spinning heel is one hit kill.

 

[ROcknrollracing]

I had a year of TKD training as a middle-schooler and I quit when I realized how useless it was as a effective martial art.

TKD is effective against someone using TKD.

It teaches nothing about effective punching. Only straight punches to the head. No hooks or bodypunches.
It teaches nothing about what to do when the fight goes to the ground.
It teaches nothing in regards to the cliche, with nothing related to knees or elbows.
It teaches.... kicks.... the riskiest strike in a real fight with high reward if it lands with alot of power, and if it doesn't you're off-balance with a high percentage chance of beingbody punches.
And if the worst thing to happen to a TKD fighter is to be taken down, then it should teach effective takedown defense right? Nope, no takedown defense whatsoever.

Its the weakest form of kickboxing imaginable.

You went to a school teaching Olympic style TKD then. The first lessons you learn in real TKD are takedowns and neutralizing an attacker and you definitely learn punches to the body.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

You went to a school teaching Olympic style TKD then. The first lessons you learn in real TKD are takedowns and neutralizing an attacker and you definitely learn punches to the body.

It is, what we now call, a McDojo.

 

[pugilistico]

This is fancy, but are we expected to believe a Thai kickboxer, who has never taken a lesson in TKD, couldn't break those boards with a kick? Or a boxer couldn't break those boards with a punch?

My college once had a TKD seminar / demonstration and after the boards were broken some of us were playing around trying to break smaller and smaller pieces of the board. I broke the smallest piece I could find with a simple straight right and it amazed everyone watching lol. This was before I even trained in anything.

I never understood TKD's obsession with board breaking. It's one of the most useless ways to exhibit your skill. North Korean special forces guys also love showing off their board breaking skills as if that has anything to do with modern combat.

 

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Spinning heel kick is low percentage though very hard kick to land, back kick is higher percentage and is does a ton of damage but I'll admit spinning heel is one hit kill.

Whenever it hits they go limb