Economy Study: Middle Class Is Over

[Ripskater]

Also how does it feel to be a full time troll Ripskater? I think it may be taxing barbecue you are not so good at it as you were before.... maybe lying all the time is draining psychologically?

I never knew what you had against me or how I ever offended you. Maybe you could tell me? Cause it never made sense to me.

 

[luckyshot]

I found this interesting

https://www.investopedia.com/financial-edge/0912/which-income-class-are-you.aspx

The Upper Middle Class

According to census data from 2015, 6.1% of households bring in $200,000 and higher every year and 14.1% bring in between $100,000 and $150,000. This is the upper middle class.

An Urban Institute paper argued that what they referred to as upper middle class, or those with a three-person household income between $100,000 and $350,000, has grown from 12.9% of the population in 1979 to 29.4% in 2014. It found that people with higher incomes saw their earnings grow faster than those with lower incomes.

My gf and I (whom live with) make a combined $165,000 a year.... funny they consider that "upper middle class" All that basically mean in San Diego is that we can afford to buy a house here. Considering the median home price here is $550,000, that income bracket doesn't really mean shit.

Think about that, two people earning $50,000 each annually in a home is upper middle class accoring to these people lol.

Correct.

To look at income numbers independent of cost of living is idiotic.

Income numbers have been flat (adjusted for inflation) for about 30 years. But cost of living hasn't been flat. Cost of housing and healthcare (not to mention education, which the study in the OP didn't even consider) have risen over the same time-- faster than the rate of inflation.

That's basically the story, in a nutshell. As a country (not every individual, obviously, but as a whole) we are playing even poker, but losing to the house rake over time.

Anyone who is adding comments, anecdotes, or explanations based on their own experience, living situations, ideology, theology, etc. ... great.

But the trend is what it is.

 

[Squarechoke]

No, if you have the necessities to live with all those luxuries in life and still complain, then you may be acting like spoiled brat. If you're not complaining, then you're not.

So why are you only complaining about those that have less when they complain and instead praise the rich when they do the same?

It seems like there should be consistency, as from a Christian perspective pretty much everyone in the western world is a sure bet in going to hell (most of the rest as well, of course). Probably especially those that piss on the name of god by claiming to be Christians and not even trying to live like the teachings.

 

[zebby23]

All those people I talk about are doing that
Fix your lifestyle

Lol I make 3x that amount little guy. Haha don’t worry about my lifestyle.

I have 9 year old whose college is already paid for.

If you can pay for your 3 kids college on 60,000 a year you are either lying or living in poverty. Or you live where you live

Also you are lying about these people you know to prove your point. You don’t know anyone making 60k a year lol

 

[Ripskater]

So why are you only complaining about those that have less when they complain and instead praise the rich when they do the same?

It seems like there should be consistency, as from a Christian perspective pretty much everyone in the western world is a sure bet in going to hell (most of the rest as well, of course). Probably especially those that piss on the name of god by claiming to be Christians and not even trying to live like the teachings.

Rich people complain about having hardships too. So it applies to them as well when they have trouble making payments on the vacation home and the speed boat.

Also, you must have ignored my posts in this thread where I said that greed is a big problem.

 

[zebby23]

Rich people complain about having hardships too. So it applies to them as well when they have trouble making payments on the vacation home and the speed boat.

Also, you must have ignored my posts in this thread where I said that greed is a big problem.

More money more bills

 

[Ripskater]

More money more bills

That's right Puff Zebby. Mo money, mo problems

 

[zebby23]

That's right Puff Zebby. Mo money, mo problems

You always had a weird charm about you rip.

 

[Squarechoke]

Rich people complain about having hardships too. So it applies to them as well when they have trouble making payments on the vacation home and the speed boat.

Also, you must have ignored my posts in this thread where I said that greed is a big problem.

I asked you a question about the rich and you only had praise for them. That's what I was talking about.

If greed is a big problem then why shouldn't the wealth be spread out more evenly among the population? Greed is certainly one of the biggest reasons for huge wealth gaps. That should go especially for a Christian as the Bible even says to give to your enemies.

 

[Ripskater]

I asked you a question about the rich and you only had praise for them. That's what I was talking about.

If greed is a big problem then why shouldn't the wealth be spread out more evenly among the population? Greed is certainly one of the biggest reasons for huge wealth gaps. That should go especially for a Christian as the Bible even says to give to your enemies.

Making lots of money is not a sin. But the worship of money over God is a sin. Which many rich people fall into that trap.

 

[curryjunkie]

“Listen, son, this is what it means to be a man; a man needs to devote thousands of hours to trolling Internet forums. When it gets to be too much, request to be banned. When you’re ready, come back using an alias, but deny any affiliation with your previous account. Nothing shows you are a man like endless, completely unproductive insincerity.”

that deserves two cormiers..

 

[curryjunkie]

Be careful what you wish for. With large federal govt comes less freedom. In the UK, you can be jailed for sharing the Gospel if someone claims it's offensive.

Be careful that you're not looking for Heaven on earth through overreaching government when the Bible tells us there won't be that until Jesus returns.

There will always be inequality. There's always gonna be rich, and poor and in between. God made it that way. Our job is to personally live out the commands of Christ. Not to enact a govt that forces you to do this and takes away your freedom of speech and religion.

One day there will be a world govt promising solutions to everything. Read Revelations.

 

[Ripskater]

Posted my reply in the lounge.

 

[franklinstower]

I never knew what you had against me or how I ever offended you. Maybe you could tell me? Cause it never made sense to me.

You have never offended me. Troll account is troll account though.

 

[Ripskater]

You have never offended me. Troll account is troll account though.

Well still, maybe you could explain why you call me a troll and liar. If you're gonna throw that out in this thread, then point it out.

 

[Ripskater]

maybe lying all the time is draining psychologically?

Maybe you can explain this accusation in the lounge?

 

[franklinstower]

So why are you only complaining about those that have less when they complain and instead praise the rich when they do the same?



It seems like there should be consistency, as from a Christian perspective pretty much everyone in the western world is a sure bet in going to hell (most of the rest as well, of course). Probably especially those that piss on the name of god by claiming to be Christians and not even trying to live like the teachings.

If the tone of Jesus towards various sinners is indicative of degrees of hell in the hereafter then yes falsely religious people who use religion as a means for personal gain are in massive trouble. Jesus seems genuinely pissed only when dealing with these types.

 

[franklinstower]

Well still, maybe you could explain why you call me a troll and liar. If you're gonna throw that out in this thread, then point it out.

Your while Schick Rip-- its a troll account for a mod. The ingenuousness does come through but it sometimes can be confused for you being stupid. You are not though-- just faking.

It comes through way more now though than it used to after you self quit and then came back after trying on a couple different shticks. I think the original impulse to cease was accurate.

 

[Quequeg]

If the tone of Jesus towards various sinners is indicative of degrees of hell in the hereafter then yes falsely religious people who use religion as a means for personal gain are in massive trouble. Jesus seems genuinely pissed only when dealing with these types.

Sweet, so there is a chance that all televangelists will go to hell? Hmm, maybe there is something to this Christianity thing?

 

[Possum Jenkins]

You always had a weird charm about you rip.

Like a fascist Ned Flanders.

All folksy and polite but firmly supportive of authoritarian- if not outright totalitarian- policies.