Economy stonks v12, gamestonk?

Making a bunch of money off an EV rumor and then having shitlicker Cramer end his show with a monologue begging people not to sell TSLA because there's "enough money for everyone to sell EVs and they make tons of cash" (they don't lol) is just the sweet nectar I need to enjoy this day more.
 
Oh nice I have a small bit of HEC and thats gonna merge too! Talkspace?
 
Serious question, if you're capable of beating the market then why do you have normal jobs? Most hedge funds don't even beat the market. Wouldn't you be able to quit your job and get tons of people to invest in you and run your own hedge fund or something? Or if you can't beat the market then why don't you just buy and hold the S&P 500? Or is it just for the rush, like going to a casino?

oh my god, why do you keep making the dumbest questions, all of which involve making the dumbest assumptions/conclusion jumps - with jack shit to support it?

when do you hear me talk about working/job? as for some others, get this... they can do both.

and lolz @ just starting a "hedge fund." do you know what the word "hedge" means? come on, man.
 
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hedge means taking a counter position in teh same security or a counter correlated security or different volatility security to manage risk.

hedge in hedge fund is just a legacy word, like when gender used to mean sex and it doesn't anymore.

wat


it doesnt mean hedge anymore. it just signifies a class of fund who's structure and tax and reporting requirements are the best class of fund to have for doing whatever teh fuck you want style investing.

wat


...what school do you go to? and how much does it cost?



edit: to be clear, i don't mean to seem like/be a dick and i don't mean to discourage anyone from posting... but your posts have been rather loaded. i get that you're dubious (at best/to put it nicely) about the market/people's gains. but there's better ways to look into it/etc than the prior shit-talking and now asking why we don't have our own funds. like... what?
 
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Gender used to mean sex just so you didn't have to say a socially impolite word in more conservative times. Then the definition changed, and now it means what sex you feel like you are. In 2020, it doesn't mean the same thing it meant in 1950. In 2020, hedge fund doesn't mean the same thing it meant in 1950.

The sociologist Alfred W. Jones is credited with coining the phrase "hedged fund"[14][15] and is credited with creating the first hedge fund structure in 1949.[16] Jones referred to his fund as being "hedged", a term then commonly used on Wall Street to describe the management of investment risk due to changes in the financial markets.[17]

In the 1970s, hedge funds specialized in a single strategy with most fund managers following the long/short equity model.

So a long/ short equity model, going long, and short at the same time so that your return is locked in a horizontal line no matter what direction the market moves. Meaning you won't get good returns, you won't get bad returns, and will never get wiped out either. Low reward, but low risk. A hedge.

During the 1990s, the number of hedge funds increased significantly, with the 1990s stock market rise,[14] the aligned-interest compensation structure (i.e., common financial interests) and the promise of above high returns[18] as likely causes. Over the next decade, hedge fund strategies expanded to include: credit arbitrage, distressed debt, fixed income, quantitative, and multi-strategy.[15] US institutional investors such as pension and endowment funds began allocating greater portions of their portfolios to hedge funds.[


Aka, they're based around a strategy, or specific type of security or asset class, today. Could be any strategy. They're "hedges" in name only.

honestly, my advice to you is drop out of school.
 
Serious question, if you're capable of beating the market then why do you have normal jobs?
Even if you can beat the market it doesn't mean you're making enough to live off of while also saving what you want to save, unfortunately. I'm only in my mid 30's. Maybe one day.
Most hedge funds don't even beat the market. Wouldn't you be able to quit your job and get tons of people to invest in you and run your own hedge fund or something?
I'd imagine starting your own hedge fund would require extensive networking, or at least having some solid contacts. I'd probably do things way differently if I was investing other peoples' money too. Who knows how that would work out?
Or if you can't beat the market then why don't you just buy and hold the S&P 500?
That's the best idea for the vast majority of people.
Or is it just for the rush, like going to a casino?
I'm not a very active trader at all, unlike a lot of frequent posters in here, so it's not quite that. I like the challenge, and being able to do something (beating the market) when so many people fail at it is a point of pride I suppose.
 
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So you can't really answer. Most hedge fund don't outperform the market, and it's not because "hedge" funds are all hedging. So, if traders can outperform the market, why aren't they being wall street bosses? If they can't, then why don't they just invest in the s&p 500?
I think you're really underestimating how hard it is to become a "wall street boss."

Even if 90% of people fail to beat the market, 10% of just 1 million people is 100,000 people. People who are able to beat the market are rare, but not that rare.
 
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So you can't really answer.
it's not because "hedge" funds are all hedging for low risk low return
wat

holy shit.

ok, the gloves are off. your questions are utterly moronic. why would i even want to run a hedge fund? you think i want that stress? and lolz @ thinking anyone can just post a screencap of their portfolio gain and suddenly get investors throwing money at them to run a fund. also, the sec...

that said, you can't even figure out what gender or hedge even mean. you could have at least went with some "social construct" crap but no, you went fulllllllllllll retard. "what sex you feel like," doesn't even make sense and is utterly unscientific, anyway. your own "definition" suggests that it's not even a definition, but is based on whimsy. further, you seemingly implied that ETFs and etc are hedge funds. maybe words don't mean anything at your prestigious university (clearly, it's money well spent), but words do have pretty clear meanings to the sec, irs, and etc.


A lot of those are probably day traders, which you can't do with lots of money

...are you drunk?
 
Bros calm down and let me be a gleeful cock prancing around in spac gains.
 
Bros calm down and let me be a gleeful cock prancing around in spac gains.
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...are you drunk?
If you day trade with a big account, the volume traded of a security is much lower in 1 hour than it is in 1 month, and the price is more variable too. Prices are created by supply and demand, and maybe your volume doesn't move the market in 1 month but it does in 1 hour, and maybe you need to capitalize on smaller profit margins. When you go long, you want to buy low and sell high. so when you buy, your demand moves the market up, which is not low. and when you sell, your supply moves the market low, which is not high. Or pretend you want to short. You want to borrow now, then sell high, then buy low and give it back in the future. But when you sell now, your supply moves the market down then, which is not up. And when you buy the stock then to give it back in the future to the dude you borrowed from now, your demand moves the market up then, which is not down like you want it now. So you can't day trade with a ton of money like you can swing trade with.
 
are you typing this crap up, yourself?
Isn't that basically what level 3 order book traders used to do before hft, but on a more macro level? When you trade huge amounts of money, don't you give off volume signals that show a specific buyer at a certain price range or a specific seller at a certain price range, that smaller traders see and take advantage of? Isn't that where the intraday trends you ride when you're day trading originate from?
 
Isn't that basically what level 3 order book traders used to do before hft, but on a more macro level? When you trade huge amounts of money, don't you give off volume signals that show a specific buyer at a certain price range or a specific seller at a certain price range, that smaller traders see and take advantage of? Isn't that where the intraday trends you ride when you're day trading originate from?

did you pay to watch someone's super secret youtube videos? also, there's more to trading or even day trading than hft.
 
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