Stipe never beat a good HW in their prime

[AndrewGolota48]

Nope, not one. Zip. Zero. Nada.

Roy Nelson - 37yrs old
Gabriel Gonzaga - 34yrs old
Mark Hunt - 41yrs old
Andrei Arlovski - 37yrs old
Fabricio Werdum - 39yrs old
Alistair Overeem - 36yrs old, non-Uber
Junior Dos Santos - post-Cain & Overeem
Francis Ngannou - Green
Daniel Cormier - 40yrs old
Daniel Cormier - 41yrs old

In fact the only prime HWs he faced...Francis, JDS, Struve...all beat him.

Stipe can never be the GOAT HW because he doesn't have a single legitimately great win. Not one.

Because of this Stipe firmly ranks behind Fedor, Big Nog, Cain, JDS, Couture, Werdum, and probably a few others.

Outstanding thread, Stipe has been exposed as a massive fraud.

All you need to know are that his two best wins besides old foot out the door retirement Cornier are JDS and Ngannou, both of which he fought twice and both of which handed him his ass when in their primes.

 

[TrueFightFan]

Nope, not one. Zip. Zero. Nada.

Roy Nelson - 37yrs old
Gabriel Gonzaga - 34yrs old
Mark Hunt - 41yrs old
Andrei Arlovski - 37yrs old
Fabricio Werdum - 39yrs old
Alistair Overeem - 36yrs old, non-Uber
Junior Dos Santos - post-Cain & Overeem
Francis Ngannou - Green
Daniel Cormier - 40yrs old
Daniel Cormier - 41yrs old

In fact the only prime HWs he faced...Francis, JDS, Struve...all beat him.

Stipe can never be the GOAT HW because he doesn't have a single legitimately great win. Not one.

Because of this Stipe firmly ranks behind Fedor, Big Nog, Cain, JDS, Couture, Werdum, and probably a few others.

To be fair a HW's prime lasts much longer than other divisions.

They actually were all in their prime until Stipe beat them.. Hell Ngannou went on to be the baddest man on the planet...

I love it when jon jones gets stoned and starts posting stupid crap under fake accounts...

Yes, jon, you are the only legitimate Heavyweight Champion ever.

 

[ineverpost]

Oh look the 10,000th thread of the year where so and so was never any good because they lost.

 

[orca]

stipes wins where better than fedor
those guys he fought during that that would beat fedor
lol fedors win nog and cro cop haha wtf

 

[orca]

Nope, not one. Zip. Zero. Nada.

Roy Nelson - 37yrs old
Gabriel Gonzaga - 34yrs old
Mark Hunt - 41yrs old
Andrei Arlovski - 37yrs old
Fabricio Werdum - 39yrs old
Alistair Overeem - 36yrs old, non-Uber
Junior Dos Santos - post-Cain & Overeem
Francis Ngannou - Green
Daniel Cormier - 40yrs old
Daniel Cormier - 41yrs old

In fact the only prime HWs he faced...Francis, JDS, Struve...all beat him.

Stipe can never be the GOAT HW because he doesn't have a single legitimately great win. Not one.

Because of this Stipe firmly ranks behind Fedor, Big Nog, Cain, JDS, Couture, Werdum, and probably a few others.

funny even at their age they where still at the peak of their game
these old guys would beat prime juiced to the gelss fedor

 

[DestinedAussie]

Nope, not one. Zip. Zero. Nada.

Roy Nelson - 37yrs old
Gabriel Gonzaga - 34yrs old
Mark Hunt - 41yrs old
Andrei Arlovski - 37yrs old
Fabricio Werdum - 39yrs old
Alistair Overeem - 36yrs old, non-Uber
Junior Dos Santos - post-Cain & Overeem
Francis Ngannou - Green
Daniel Cormier - 40yrs old
Daniel Cormier - 41yrs old

In fact the only prime HWs he faced...Francis, JDS, Struve...all beat him.

Stipe can never be the GOAT HW because he doesn't have a single legitimately great win. Not one.

Because of this Stipe firmly ranks behind Fedor, Big Nog, Cain, JDS, Couture, Werdum, and probably a few others.

I actually look at that list and it is pretty good. Late 30's tends to be prime for most HW.

Feels like you are knocking down his wins for no reason. You can do this for any fighter and run thru their wins and talk them down.

 

[g*r*b]

And yet most of these so-called "out-of-prime" fighters were on some hot-shit runs. Roy Nelson was coming off 3 successive first-round knockouts and was closest to a title shot as he'd ever really get. Werdum was on the longest win streak of his career at 6, Arlovski at the same number which tied HIS longest streaks. The Reem's 4-win streak was long enough to get much of the fandom screaming for him to get a title shot. And talkin' of streaks, you want to talk Ngannou?! Hunt had been spottier, but he had came close to beating Werdum for the interim belt before Fab pulled the ol' misdirection trick to get him to move into his thrown knee. There's only TWO fights between JDS beating Stipe by decision and falling stunned to his knees under Stipe's fists in 2 and half minutes, and neither of those fights had been the Cain beatings to blame the difference on. Etc.

This is such an old and tired attack. I just wish people would consider IT out of prime...

 

[Axe720]

More revisionist history. Werdum was supposed to sub Stipe, Overeem was supposed to KTFO him, Cormier was supposed to take the trilogy. But he put out those fires - you haters are the only ones still burning up.

 

[ryun253]

Well Stipe never got KOd by Dan Henderson.

Stipe > Fedor

Stipe also destroyed Maldonaldo, Fedor nearly lost his life.

 

[Dude Incredible]

Oh look the 10,000th thread of the year where so and so was never any good because they lost.

and it's only april

 

[wildchild88]

TS is 1000% right, but lame Stipe fans will blow back on this hard.

I find it hilarious that anyone thinks that Stipe has a chance against Jones.

 

[Trax]

I know its all bait and that but its nice to vent out..
So, Ngannou was green at 32, but Gonzaga was past his prime at 34. How long does the prime of a fighter last in your universe? 2 years?


All of these fighters had great careers and runs until they were beat by Miocic, except maybe for JDS, who had a record of 3-2 in his last 5 fights. Ngannou, on the other hand, had another good run after being beaten by Miocic.

 

[Mike]

I mean he's not wrong tho. And look at all the bro scientists saying guys are in their prime at like 35 or 40. Just no lol. Hws just fight into old age, that's it. They're not in their prime and it's... fairly obvious to tell just by watching them fight.

 

[g*r*b]

TS is 1000% right, but lame Stipe fans will blow back on this hard.

I find it hilarious that anyone thinks that Stipe has a chance against Jones.

I find it hilarious that anyone who's followed this sport more than a year thinks that any fighter has no chance. The last twelvemonth of title fights alone have been enough to make absolute fools out of all the prediction-makers.

 

[rbastid]

This is up there with the all time stupidest Sherdog posts we use to have, where they'd do the same thing in an attempt to say GSP was really garbage, but BJ was the best ever.

 

[BigDramaShow26]

Werdum's win over Cain must mean nothing I guess.

 

[Gamer2k4]

Arlovski was on a 6 fight win streak with only 1 loss in his last 12. Werdum was also on a 6 fight streak with 1 loss in his last 10 (and the current champion). Overeem was on a 4 fight streak. dos Santos was 18-4, with two of those losses being to Cain. Ngannou had won 10 in a row, all by finish, and was considered terrifying at the time.

And of course, you're forgetting (as most Stipe haters do) that all this was while STIPE was solidly in his 30s too. If Gonzaga was "past his prime" at 34, what does that say about Stipe, who had the bulk of his title reign after that age?

 

[Raptors2019]

Ngannou was a can until he became world champion beast baddest man on the planet then?

 

[L4ST EMPER0R]

I'd say N'Gannou was in his prime when Stipe beat him, 11-1 in MMA 6-0 in the UFC and 33-34 years old? I think the rematch was more about Stipe getting old than N'Gannou getting significantly better but there was a bit of both. Still I'd consider that prime NGannou. Werdum is an all time great and he was 38, champion and ontop of his game..it's a prime win for sure. The Cormier wins are more iffy, but he started late and still rose to greatness...the only man to beat Cormier besides Stipe was Jones, they significant wins. The JDS, Overeem and Arlovski wins were clearly over men not in their primes.

Ngannou lost to Derrick Lewis in his very next fight after losing to Stipe. He was green and lacked craft and experience. These two fights were proof.

 

[L4ST EMPER0R]

Arlovski was on a 6 fight win streak with only 1 loss in his last 12. Werdum was also on a 6 fight streak with 1 loss in his last 10 (and the current champion). Overeem was on a 4 fight streak. dos Santos was 18-4, with two of those losses being to Cain. Ngannou had won 10 in a row, all by finish, and was considered terrifying at the time.

And of course, you're forgetting (as most Stipe haters do) that all this was while STIPE was solidly in his 30s too. If Gonzaga was "past his prime" at 34, what does that say about Stipe, who had the bulk of his title reign after that age?

Arlovski was knocked out like 7 times by the time he fought Stipe and was in his late 30s. The guy wasn't in his prime.