Stipe gonna make Jones go sleepy

[Copper Burner]

It's just good misdirection

But don't be fooled into thinking Jon isn't gonna beat him standing as well

Jones flashy light heavyweight tactics will not work against a skilled heavy handed boxer like Miocic.

If it stays on the feet, Jones gets put through the meat grinder.

 

[AstralPanda]

Jones flashy light heavyweight tactics will not work against a skilled heavy handed boxer like Miocic.

If it stays on the feet, Jones gets put through the meat grinder.

Stipe isn't bringing anything whatsoever to the table that Jones has not seen before.

Prime DC was a much greater challenge in every area than Stipe.

 

[Copper Burner]

Stipe isn't bringing anything whatsoever to the table that Jones has not seen before.

Prime DC was a much greater challenge in every area than Stipe.

Jones has never experienced the type of power that Stipe has. When Stipe lands a calf kick, it will be like nothing Jones has felt before.

Jones isn't bringing anything Stipe hasn't seen. This will be Stipe's easiest fight at heavyweight.

 

[NordWorld86]

If Stipe is going to beat Jones he will have to keep him on the outside and out point him or get lucky and knock him out. Jones had no problem taking down DC who was an elite wrestler and great in the clinch. What makes you think he can't take down Stipe? Now Stipe has a punchers chance - and I'd LOVE to see him knock Jones out - but I just don't see it happening.

This narrative is funny
Jon failed lots of takedowns in his career and even with DC you mentioned he failed takedowns.He managed to get dead tired DC down 2x in 4th round and got nothing out of it except moral victory.
If he cant get Stipe tired the same way believe me he is not wrestlefucking Stipe

 

[HI SCOTT NEWMAN]

Jones is gonna beat the snot out of him, won't be close, striking or the ground

 

[dittohead84]

I'm on the fence on this one. Jones had a 3 year lay off before Gane, and Gane is Gane and absolutely shit the bed in that fight. Stipe might not lay down so easy.

Dat immigrant mentality with the fireman strength......ah it'll be a good one anyway whatever happens

 

[Copper Burner]

Jones is gonna beat the snot out of him, won't be close, striking or the ground

Jones is going to realize why he shouldn't have moved up to heavyweight when he fights Stipe.

 

[Jinx_AA]

Jones don’t wanna strike

either jones sub

or stipe can keep it standing …. If stipe keeps it standing - he’ll shock everyone …. Except me

 

[Kerfuffle]

Maybe. I do think it'll be a lot more closely contested than Stipe is getting credit for. Jon has shown in the past that he's more than willing to drink his own kool-aid and come into a fight overconfident. Each time he comes away with the W by the skin of his teeth. Him training with Gordon Ryan this week doesn't really mean much.

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

Not a lot of experience in the octagon in front of the cameras, yes. But you think he doesn't drill that stuff? You think they never get black belts for his training camps? Stipe actually has a rep, quiet as it is, of being almost impossible to submit. I've read a few testimonials, like a post from a guy who went along when his professor was brought in to provide Stipe practice, and in a full week of intensive rolling the master only managed to submit Stipe once.

I have a feeling though that Jones doesn't know it either. He's been conspicuously training with Gordon Ryan, and sniffing at Stipe "preparing for a boxing match" because the only training clips Stipe posts are him in the gloves and headgear. Does he think absence of Twitter proof = proof of absence?

If Jon goes for a submission but Stipe manages to reverse him and pounds his face off, I will LAUGH and LAUGH and LAUGH....

Dog, as someone who competes A LOT, drilling is good but time away from competition hurts like a mofo. There are definitely those who can overcome ring rust so hopefully Stipe is one.

I never heard of Stipes hard to tap cred, and that is very mildly reassuring. I just wish I had something visual to go off of. But hey, Stipe defending against Jon and getting ktfo is good to me

 

[rjmbrd]

Jones didn't even have the balls to fight Ngannou. Stipe did twice and went 1-1

Stipe was able to get by with a decision before Ngannou had much experience.

When they fought again and Ngannou knew how to sprawl, it was a hard to watch lopsided beating. I like Stipe - he's an all around good dude and a hard worker. He's not a gifted athlete and he's way past it.

Jon - who often appears to be a terrible person - is a gifted athlete. He's also out of his prime but not quite as far over the hill. The best Jones is a better athlete and more skilled fighter than the best Stipe.

 

[Thepaintbucket]

You know if this was prime Stipe, he would have a great chance. Miocic would come forward and attempt to take Jon down with little respect. Fast forward to 2023 and I don't think he will do this. The reason why? Look how he fought 40 year old Daniel Cormier. Stipe thought his advantage lied with his striking and this will be no different except Jon won't lose

If Stipe comes into this fight with the intent to wrestle, I'd be surprised as hell

 

[Deleted member 592659]

Jones is the GOAT, but imagine Jony bobble-head hitting the canvas multiple times, would be priceless

 

[C0NCH3TO]

Ya, I do. Jones was able to wrestle fuck DC. If Jon wants it to go to the ground, he has the size and the strength/technique to get it there.

Hound doesn’t know the meaning of “wressle fuck”.

 

[loisestrad]

This narrative is funny
Jon failed lots of takedowns in his career and even with DC you mentioned he failed takedowns.He managed to get dead tired DC down 2x in 4th round

He also took DC down in the first round.

 

[gspieler]

100% chance Jon is pulsing for this fight.

 

[Gregoire1]

Its interesting to see how the future version of Stipe in Jones fight will differ from his last version in fight with Ngannou 2 (3 years ago): 30% worse, 20%, 40%? or maybe 20% better? (miracle).

 

[CashMoney1991]

easy win for Jones, I hope Stipe pulls out, such a disgraceful title fight

 

[NordWorld86]

He also took DC down in the first round.

From a caught kick,nothing impressive about it,even commentary didnt put much into that unlike the 4th round takedowns where it was clear those are legit and meaningful

 

[Safton]

Not a lot of experience in the octagon in front of the cameras, yes. But you think he doesn't drill that stuff? You think they never get black belts for his training camps? Stipe actually has a rep, quiet as it is, of being almost impossible to submit. I've read a few testimonials, like a post from a guy who went along when his professor was brought in to provide Stipe practice, and in a full week of intensive rolling the master only managed to submit Stipe once.

I have a feeling though that Jones doesn't know it either. He's been conspicuously training with Gordon Ryan, and sniffing at Stipe "preparing for a boxing match" because the only training clips Stipe posts are him in the gloves and headgear. Does he think absence of Twitter proof = proof of absence?

If Jon goes for a submission but Stipe manages to reverse him and pounds his face off, I will LAUGH and LAUGH and LAUGH....

Dog, as someone who competes A LOT, drilling is good but time away from competition hurts like a mofo. There are definitely those who can overcome ring rust so hopefully Stipe is one.

I never heard of Stipes hard to tap cred, and that is very mildly reassuring. I just wish I had something visual to go off of. But hey, Stipe defending against Jon and getting ktfo is good to me

Yeah, in addition to the post @g*r*b is referencing, Schaub has talked about this from when he trained with Stipe. Basically he said that Stipe's offensive BJJ in terms of his submission game is fairly limited and you won't really see him fishing for different types of stuff while rolling... but he is insanely physically strong and has a really solid "base" along with a good sense of awareness/defense that makes him nigh-impossible to manipulate, sweep, submit, etc.

Normally I wouldn't really give much credence to Brendan's thoughts on anything in the fight game, but since these are his personal anecdotes from the training room that gel with other things I've heard & seen I'm more keen to believe them. For instance, Stipe actually competed in a BJJ match years ago for charity. The guy he was up against was more experienced in sport BJJ and beat Stipe... but not in the way you might think. Miocic actually took him down and held him down with ease the entire time, but didn't really know what to do after that, lol. It was Stipe's first wearing the gi, so he just relied on his wrestler instincts and pancaked the guy flat for minutes at a time. Meanwhile, his opponent desperately threw up multiple submission and sweep attempts from bottom. Even though Stipe easily shut down all of them, this ruleset dictated that the more "aggressive" grappler would win if the match went the distance.

I think it's also worth remembering how he survived the Overeem guillotine. He probably came into that fight expecting a striking match, i.e. hadn't drilled a ton of sub defense. Yet after getting badly rocked and dropped, he was still able to regain his composure and survive a tight guillotine from Alistair. Bear in mind, Overeem has won 8 (?) pro MMA fights by guillotine. Hell, he dominated the ADCC European Trials and won a gold medal back in the day by tapping every single guy in his weight class... all by guillotine. Overeem has also supposedly out-grappled Werdum and Oleinik in the training room (source: Oleinik himself). Stipe surviving Alistair's signature choke while hurt and coming back to win the fight is no mean feat.

I do still nominally favor Jones because I'm worried about Stipe's age, wear & tear, and inactivity... but Jones also has some red flags surrounding him that Stipe could potentially exploit if he comes correct, I'll admit.