Even in those short instances Luke got more help and advice on the force and some history. More than Rey received.
Rey had been fighting for her life for a decade & training herself. You're completely ignoring that she was an Elite staff fighter...
Anakin had many failures at pod racing before he won
& that's it's perfectly reasonable that she took plenty of bumps & bruises along the way (just like Anakin did learning to pod race) & that over a decade she developed into a staff fighting ninja. Can you just recognize that please? Like can't you even imagine that as a possibility that she was living in a junk yard & had to work to make a living among people who would kill her for whatever part she found if she couldn't defend herself?
Rey doesn't seem to have any personality flaws nor any shortcomings in moral character.
Kylo called her a monster because she's so vicious.
If you're just pissed because they didn't show more flaws, then what's that even about?
Also Rey with no training what so ever beats a very powerful in his own right Kylo ren in a light saber duel and out forces him in the interrogation room. The shes just that powerful argument doesn't hold up.
She was an elite staff fighter.
The biggest flaw in your logic you are blantantly ignoring is that Kylo was literally telling he he wanted to train her while he was fighting her. Are you ignoring that conveniently?
Kylo was also mortally wounded & using most of his force abilities to keep himself alive & was mentally fucked from killing his dad.
Was your life in danger every day from age 6 to 18? Obviously not... have you ever felt like your life was in danger if you didn't train yourself to fight to the death? Did you grow up in a junk yard with criminals all around you?
Are you elite with any form of combat?
These are rhetorical questions because obviously that was Elite staff fighter Rey's situation... while you grew up in a more civilized society & it's my opinion that you haven't put your head into that side of the story. I don't mean that to condescend you, but it's crystal clear to me that she has very above average force in her just inherently, & that she had to channel that into defending herself... & used it to learn about ships because that was her trade.
She had to learn to fight for her life... & she obviously became elite in staff fighting. This is all right there in the movie.
She never has to earn a damn thing
You know by the way she had to self teach herself how to survive that she earned EVERYTHING. Stop whatever it is you're doing & just think about her situation for that last decade. Then think about your comment here. it just doesn't add up. Can you at least acknowledge that a little girl teaching herself about starship mechanics because she had to make a living is a pretty big thing she "earned."
Can you acknowledge the hours upon hours she put into learning to become an elite staff fighter? Read your comment again. It was all skills developed over a decade of hard work & dedication to staying alive while you were bitching at your mom because she asked you to do the dishes or fold laundry. did you have running water when you grew up? Rey didn't. She lived in a junk yard.
and they'll probably throw in some bull shit about her training as a child
OMG buddeh... that's obvious!!!
We will just never agree on this
That's fine if we don't agree, but you gotta get real about a force sensitive with natural abilities such as young anakin having to learn skills to survive.
I honestly can't believe you said that "they will throw in some bullshit about her training as a child"... OMG dude... do you even comprehend the situation she was in? She had no choice... & she trained herself. & it was all enhansed because she haz that young anakin level force running through her that allowed the little kid to not only build his own pod racer, but beat the champion with a sabotaged pod racer.
You gotta give that same level of enhansed learning to Rey as well. & Anakin didn't even have to. He was a well taken care of slave who just had to do whatever to please someone... & his mom was there in their little hut. Rey was all alone & her will to survive kicked in the force & she became elite at the things she needed to learn.
) had to have been more about his focus on the effort to stay alive than anything else.
