STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI

[minute bull]

I’m pretty surprised at the amount of people in this thread that said they didn’t like it, and then went and saw it again lol there’s no way I would give them more money after watching that abomination the first time.

 

[Tiny]

I was underwhelmed.

I just saw it and I'm not going to go into detail, although it's incredibly amusing how rustled some in this thread are about how many women held positions of power in this film. Grow a pair, boys. You sound sad and pathetic.

I will say that I was incredibly disappointed with Luke in this film. After decades hearing about him being one of the most powerful Jedi in history, it would have been incredibly sweet to see him actually in action before dying. The fake out with the force projection was particularly painful. I've always said that new films are for new characters, but this is Star Wars, and Luke. If you're going to have him in there, he should be insanely powerful. We got nothing. Worse than nothing, they teased an epic finale, and gave us a fake out.

Its not anout woman in power, one of my favorite movies is kill bill...its about doing it on purpose to further liberal politcial agendas

Nobody wants that in their movies.

 

[Guestx]

Here's a question. . .

Are all future films just going to ignore midi-chlorians?

I don't believe I've heard the word even uttered once since Disney took over.

 

[csroster]

Here's a question. . .

Are all future films just going to ignore midi-chlorians?

I don't believe I've heard the word even uttered once since Disney took over.

Episode 8 doesn't even address ideas presented in Episode 7, let alone
Episode 1. Hell Episode 8 doesn't even address ideas presented in Episode 8.

 

[minute bull]

Here's a question. . .

Here's a better question: Please stop.

 

[Guestx]

The problem is though that we then get into the situation where the diversion hasn't worked, the First Order are attacking the escape ships yet it takes a good while to deside to turn the ship around to ram them rather than just wait to get blown up. It feels like the films plot is being driven more by audience expectations, we didn't know lightspeed ramming was possible so the characters didn't either and work it out on the fly.

I'm not sure why this is a problem, narratively.

The Resistance starts escaping but the First Order begins firing on them.

Oh shit! Gotta think quick!

Holdo uses her wits to come up with the plan to ram the First Order's ship at lightspeed, sacrificing herself in the process.

I thought it was a good moment in the film and, even though we don't get to learn much about Holdo, I appreciated her willingness to lay down her life for her fellow soldiers, as well as her sharp thinking in coming up with a way to use the already-doomed ship as a devastating weapon.

In TLJ it I'd say took the form of "if one shocking twist is good then ten shocking twists must be better!". To me this is a style that keeps people reasonably entertained for one viewing and often confused as to the quality of what there watching due to the shear pace of it yet diminishes when you actually have time to think about it and/or rewatch it.

That's an interesting thought. What I can confirm was that I was never bored by the film, and while watching I didn't feel to ask a lot of questions about the story. I was just in the experience.

 

[Guestx]

Episode 8 doesn't even address ideas presented in Episode 7, let alone
Episode 1. Hell Episode 8 doesn't even address ideas presented in Episode 8.

Well, Ep VII didn't mention them either. Rogue One didn't mention them (though this is more understandable).

I suspect Disney just doesn't want to fuck with the idea of midi-chlorians and the way they somewhat complicate the nature of the Force.

 

[GordoBarraBJJ]

Saw this last week and while I was entertained watching it,

I kind of hated this movie.

At frist he liked it, then he hated it

 

[tramendous]

Here's a better question: Please stop.

thats not a question

 

[minute bull]

It really shouldn't be. And yet he goes on.

 

[csroster]

Well, Ep VII didn't mention them either. Rogue One didn't mention them (though this is more understandable).

I suspect Disney just doesn't want to fuck with the idea of midi-chlorians and the way they somewhat complicate the nature of the Force.

Agreed, but Episode 7 was bloated enough without going into that. It felt like Episode 8 was the opportunity to explain why Rey was so strong with the force and if it wasn't familial relation this was the time to bring up midi-chlorians.

I think you're right they just wanted to skirt that entire concept, but in this movie with the direction they went it seemed like this was the time to address it because there's no way they'll have time in Episode 9 and they set it up themselves with no other explanation for her strength and adeptness.

 

[tramendous]

It really shouldn't be. And yet he goes on.

bruh. It may have sounded cool to you as you were typing it but in the end, it didn't make sense. (like the writing of the last jedi LOL) accept and move on.

 

[csroster]

At frist he liked it, then he hated it

To be fair I didn't say I liked it, I said I was entertained.

 

[minute bull]

bruh. It may have sounded cool to you as you were typing it but in the end, it didn't make sense. (like the writing of the last jedi LOL) accept and move on.

Thanks for the like anyway tho.

 

[YellowBanenoo]

It's all because of these two slimy fuckers.

 

[Myrddin Wild]

in a galaxy far, far away...only white people can be bad guys!

Darth Maul
Bobba & Jango Fett
Unkar Plutt
Jabba the Hut
Greedo
Darth Jar Jar
James Earl Jones

Spoiler

 

[csroster]

I'm not sure why this is a problem, narratively.

The Resistance starts escaping but the First Order begins firing on them.

Oh shit! Gotta think quick!

Holdo uses her wits to come up with the plan to ram the First Order's ship at lightspeed, sacrificing herself in the process.

I thought it was a good moment in the film and, even though we don't get to learn much about Holdo, I appreciated her willingness to lay down her life for her fellow soldiers, as well as her sharp thinking in coming up with a way to use the already-doomed ship as a devastating weapon.



That's an interesting thought. What I can confirm was that I was never bored by the film, and while watching I didn't feel to ask a lot of questions about the story. I was just in the experience.

Regarding Holdo, that light speed scene and everything with Kylo and Rey was the best stuff in the movie, but why didn't she tell them she had a plan?

She didn't tell them even after they enacted a mutiny which had Poe put Finn and Rose on an unnecessary mission risking their lives and even actually ended up having them getting betrayed and the entire escape plan in the hands of the First Order. And this mutiny was after Poe got demoted for risking lives against orders, why isn't this fool in the brig?

BTW I've been responding to you because I like your posts, just wanted to iterate that I respect your and others opinions on the movie.

 

[GtehMVP]

I'm not sure why this is a problem, narratively.

The Resistance starts escaping but the First Order begins firing on them.

Oh shit! Gotta think quick!

Holdo uses her wits to come up with the plan to ram the First Order's ship at lightspeed, sacrificing herself in the process.

I thought it was a good moment in the film and, even though we don't get to learn much about Holdo, I appreciated her willingness to lay down her life for her fellow soldiers, as well as her sharp thinking in coming up with a way to use the already-doomed ship as a devastating weapon.



That's an interesting thought. What I can confirm was that I was never bored by the film, and while watching I didn't feel to ask a lot of questions about the story. I was just in the experience.

That lightspeed attack was freaking glorious! The only problem is that it makes everyone in the previous few millenia look inept (SW spans thousands of years with the old Republic). It takes away how frightening the Death Star wars too. Surely someone would have thought of it. I still say that Admiral Allah Ackbar should have done it lol

I agree with you on enjoyment though. As much I hate the new trilogy thus far, I was thoroughly entertained by TLJ, what a paradox. it didn't feel long to me at all, even though the running time was near three hours. I remember feeling fatigued in the 3rd Lord of the Rings movie, even though I remember it fondly.

 

[Guestx]

Regarding Holdo, that light speed scene and everything with Kylo and Rey was the best stuff in the movie, but why didn't she tell them she had a plan?

She didn't tell them even after they enacted a mutiny which had Poe put Finn and Rose on an unnecessary mission risking their lives and even actually ended up having them getting betrayed and the entire escape plan in the hands of the First Order. And this mutiny was after Poe got demoted for risking lives against orders, why isn't this fool in the brig?

Someone else mentioned that there's a plot line in the movie where there's supposed to be a First Order mole on the ship and that's why she kept the plan to herself. Somehow I don't remember this at all though.

BTW I've been responding to you because I like your posts, just wanted to iterate that I respect your and others opinions on the movie.

More respect for others' opinions is probably something we could use ITT.

 

[Guestx]

That lightspeed attack was freaking glorious! The only problem is that it makes everyone in the previous few millenia look inept (SW spans thousands of years with the old Republic). It takes away how frightening the Death Star wars too. Surely someone would have thought of it.

Well the Death Star was FAR larger than the ship that was destroyed in TLJ, and in TLJ even after ramming it at light speed the First Order's ship was still intact enough that Finn and Rose were able to survive.

I agree with you on enjoyment though. As much I hate the new trilogy thus far, I was thoroughly entertained by TLJ, what a paradox. it didn't feel long to me at all, even though the running time was near three hours. I remember feeling fatigued in the 3rd Lord of the Rings movie, even though I remember it fondly.

So why do you hate them if you had fun watching the movie?