STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI

[Tiny]

Two dipshits trying to convince themselves that this piece of shit was good.

Raise your fuckin standards. Your like is the reason these movies have gotten worse since the 80s. Your easily sold on a label.

 

[Tiny]

It's also a huge financial thing. At no point did the rebels have the funding for such a plan of attack. They simply didn't have the funding to waste 2 mon calamri crusiers during some random space battle. That's not how things work for the rebels. They weren't funded like the empire or the first order. Those groups had large numbers of Star destroyers. Using your tactics the rebels waste an importsnt cruiser to take out what 3-4 Star destroyers at most. The empire had thousands.

It's wasteful and foolish

Mon Calamri cruisers were not plentiful and their design allowed them to have attachments built onto the ship itself. Even in return if the Jedi there weren't "dozens of these ships" as you claimed. That never happened in the movie.

So your telling me its cheaper to risk losing all the ships in a space conflict you are out gunned in rathervthan losing 1 or 2 cruisers?

Stop talking.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

A "fleet" is the entire group of ships. How are you going to take out a fleet with one ship?

Simple fucking education owns YOU.

I also don't think the cruiser in the last jedi took out the fleet either. I think the debris from Snokes flag ship is what broke off destroying some of the other ships.


The way space ships keep their distance WONT allow one cruiser to take out the entire fleet.

Even in return of the Jedi when Admiral says "it's a trap" the camera shows the empires fleet and its spaced out in such a way it wouldn't Be possible

Also this notion of "dozen such of crusiers" is just not true

I see 2-3 giant Mon Calamari space cruisers and a bunch of smaller ships like the medical frigate and Corellian Corvettes or other Corellian cruisers.

 

[Goonerview]

IMO, JJ Abrams ruined Star Wars.

He shouldn't have rehashed A New Hope. He should have taken the series in a new direction. Maybe show the difficulties of maintaining a republic. A bit like Danerys in Game of Thrones, how despite liberating that city, she found that the people were difficult to control. I always felt like that storyline in GoT mirrored America and Iraq/Afganistan, how the insurgency after the American invasion is similar to the Sons of the Harpy etc.

Instead, he just rehashed the old storyline out of nowhere. Updated the graphics and throw in a bit of nostalgia.

He could have even done a "Citizen Kane" type storyline, about how the Republic try to maintain control and face moral dilemmas that push them in the dark side/civil war.

He had a lot of options and chose the most boring/nonsensical one.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

So your telling me its cheaper to risk losing all the ships in a space conflict you are out gunned in rathervthan losing 1 or 2 cruisers?

Stop talking.

Well when the rebel or alliance fleet has 3 giant space cruisers at most I'd say you would be 1000% wrong.

You wouldn't waste any of them. You would want to escape and then fight another day. Not kamikazee them into 2 Star destroyers.

What you're saying doesn't make much sense man

 

[Strange King]

IMO, JJ Abrams ruined Star Wars.

He shouldn't have rehashed A New Hope. He should have taken the series in a new direction. Maybe show the difficulties of maintaining a republic. A bit like Danerys in Game of Thrones, how despite liberating that city, she found that the people were difficult to control. I always felt like that storyline in GoT mirrored America and Iraq/Afganistan, how the insurgency after the American invasion is similar to the Sons of the Harpy etc.

Instead, he just rehashed the old storyline out of nowhere. Updated the graphics and throw in a bit of nostalgia.

He could have even done a "Citizen Kane" type storyline, about how the Republic try to maintain control and face moral dilemmas that push them in the dark side/civil war.

TFA was a bad movie with cool action but really dumb scenes.

TLJ is just a really bad movie that is by far the worst star wars movie

 

[Tiny]

Well when the rebel or alliance fleet has 3 giant space cruisers at most I'd say you would be 1000% wrong.

You wouldn't waste any of them. You would want to escape and then fight another day. Not kamikazee them into 2 Star destroyers.

What you're saying doesn't make much sense man

Except when they are doing a last dirch mission tontake out some big moon sized space station...

Oh right thats only happened.

3. Seperate. times.

Its bad writing. You are not convincing anyone with a brain in thia thread that the writers didnt juatbpaint themselves into a corner like george did when he wrote flash speed super power for the jedi, and then failed to use it in any future scene where it would have mattered.

 

[Goonerview]

TFA was a bad movie with cool action but really dumb scenes.

TLJ is just a really bad movie that is by far the worst star wars movie

The visuals and sounds, shots are good, but in terms of plot ...

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

Except when they are doing a last dirch mission tontake out some big moon sized space station...

Oh right thats only happened.

3. Seperate. times.

But one cruiser wouldn't destroy a moon sized battle station.

Why do you keep saying things like that.

And I'm still waiting for the movie in which "dozens" of these giant space cruisers were used. What movie did that happen in.

Certainly not a new hope. Empire didn't even have a scene like that and not on the final Death Star in ROTJ either.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

Two dipshits trying to convince themselves that this piece of shit was good.

Raise your fuckin standards. Your like is the reason these movies have gotten worse since the 80s. Your easily sold on a label.

No one is saying anything like that.

The point I'm making has nothing to do with the overall quality of the film. We're discussing one particular scene.

You're carrying on like some chicken on bath salts.

 

[Tiny]

But one cruiser wouldn't destroy a moon sized battle station.

Why do you keep saying things like that.

And I'm still waiting for the movie in which "dozens" of these giant space cruisers were used. What movie did that happen in.

Certainly not a new hope. Empire didn't even have a scene like that and not on the final Death Star in ROTJ either.

No dipshit it would have destroyed thise big ass trisngke ships trying to stop you from blowing up the death star.

I cant believe how terrible you are at logic. No no lets fight fight those triangle ships and likely lose everyone versus waste a cruiser and win.

Great logic.

A ship 1 / 20th the size of that triangle ship can take it down down. Future threat averted.

Hell this movies epic chase scene shpuld have been over in the first 30 minutes.

 

[Guestx]

I also don't think the cruiser in the last jedi took out the fleet either. I think the debris from Snokes flag ship is what broke off destroying some of the other ships.


The way space ships keep their distance WONT allow one cruiser to take out the entire fleet.

Even in return of the Jedi when Admiral says "it's a trap" the camera shows the empires fleet and its spaced out in such a way it wouldn't Be possible

Yeah, I mean, obviously.

It didn't even require you to actually put the effort into breaking it down.

 

[Guestx]

IMO, JJ Abrams ruined Star Wars.

He shouldn't have rehashed A New Hope. He should have taken the series in a new direction. Maybe show the difficulties of maintaining a republic. A bit like Danerys in Game of Thrones, how despite liberating that city, she found that the people were difficult to control. I always felt like that storyline in GoT mirrored America and Iraq/Afganistan, how the insurgency after the American invasion is similar to the Sons of the Harpy etc.

Instead, he just rehashed the old storyline out of nowhere. Updated the graphics and throw in a bit of nostalgia.

He could have even done a "Citizen Kane" type storyline, about how the Republic try to maintain control and face moral dilemmas that push them in the dark side/civil war.

He had a lot of options and chose the most boring/nonsensical one.

You see, this is the thing. . .

You rehash and old storyline, and people want something new. You try to lay the track for something new, like Rian is doing here, and people want the old shit.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

No dipshit it would have destroyed thise big ass trisngke ships trying to stop you from blowing up the death star.

I cant believe how terrible you are at logic. No no lets fight fight those triangle ships and likely lose everyone versus waste a cruiser and win.

Great logic.

A ship 1 / 20th the size of that triangle ship can take it down down. Future threat averted.

Hell this movies epic chase scene shpuld have been over in the first 30 minutes.

If you did what you're talking about 3 times the alliance would be left without one main giant space cruiser.


Stop saying "logic" you're using none.


Now for the 100th time what movie showed "dozens of these ships" as you claimed many posts ago. I'm still waiting for that answer.


And guess what the rebels destroyed the Death Star, twice, without using those cruisers as kamikazee weapons. Logic though

 

[Goonerview]

You see, this is the thing. . .

You rehash and old storyline, and people want something new. You try to lay the track for something new, like Rian is doing here, and people want the old shit.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Nonsense.

That's like me putting your hand in a bucket of icy water ... and then when you complain about it, so I then put your hand in burning coals, then you complain about it. Then I say "You're never happy!!, damned if you do, damned if you don't, hur hur hur"

There is a happy medium. They don't have to make it exactly the same and they don't have to make it completely different/unpredictable ... Rian Johnson made some changes, but in the wrong way.

Disney and these directors have been making these movies with no bigger overal picture in place. They are making them movie to movie and they have become an incoherant mess.

At least George Lucas and the prequels had a bigger picture in mind.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

sums my feelings exactly.

This review is dead-on, with a few minor exceptions I share his sentiments exactly.

-He's way too hard on Luke.

-He doesn't address the obvious commentary the movie does in reguards to gambling, animal cruelty, religion, female authority figures (with purple hair), and adding another diversity main character (the ugly fat asian chick.)

The video fully justifies my 2/10 rating, in a way I can't type an explanation for within a few paragraphs.

 

[Goonerview]

Han Solo movie.

They are casting a straight white male as the lead

 

[heavyarms21]

This review is dead-on, with a few minor exceptions I share his sentiments exactly.

-He's way too hard on Luke.

-He doesn't address the obvious commentary the movie does in reguards to gambling, animal cruelty, religion, female authority figures (with purple hair), and adding another diversity main character (the ugly fat asian chick.)

The video fully justifies my 2/10 rating, in a way I can't type an explanation for within a few paragraphs.

I usually reserve a rating that low for the Garbage of the world but for the most part my 4 rating matches your thoughts .

 

[Goonerview]

this Han Solo movie is going to suck

 

[lordsai]

this Han Solo movie is going to suck

going by this Disney also think it will tank lol


For some time now, there’s been a nagging sense that all might not be well behind the scenes of Disney’s Star Wars Universe. The Force Awakens and Rogue One seemingly washed away the stale memories of George Lucas’s prequel trilogy, but a string of high profile departures from the forthcoming sequels and some very divisive reactions to The Last Jedi have somewhat undermined that. Now, it looks like things could get even worse, as a source close to the production of Solo: A Star Wars Story has revealed the company is bracing itself for that film to fail significantly.

A source close to the film’s production has informed us:

Disney is bracing themselves for the Han Solo movie to bomb. They were worried about it before all The Last Jedi controversy, but now they’re essentially writing Solo off. The lead actor, Alden Ehrenreich, can’t act, and they had a dialogue coach on hand for all of his scenes. On top of that, the script is unworkable. It’s going to be a car crash.

Part of this information was already somewhat backed up by a story that circulated online back in June about the production team having reportedly brought in an acting coach in for lead actor Alden Eichenreich. The Hollywood Reporter stated that Lucasfilm executives had insisted on the measure when footage was shown to them of Eichenreich playing the iconic smuggler, and it fell far short of the standard they had been expecting.

The movie has already had some very visible issues, having lost directors and actors during its journey to the big screen. And it’s not alone, with director Colin Treverrow having also been removed from production of Episode IX. The vague reasoning provided by Lucasfilm for his removal, along with that of Phil Miller and Chris Lord from Solo is that the vision of all three directors was incompatible with that of the parent company. Which seems slightly unusual given the two very different interpretations of the Star Wars canon that both Gareth Edwards and Rian Johnson were recently allowed to deliver.

This would seem to be only one part of the problem though. As well as needing to work with a large amount of conceptual material and footage that had already been completed by Miller and Lord, new director Ron Howard is also having to contend with some other very fundamental issues.

The mention of the script being of a poor quality is also supported by comments recently made by actor Paul Bettany. It was expected that Ron Howard would need to tweak some of the existing material, but the extent to which he has needed to re-shoot the footage meant that Michael K Williams had to be dropped from the movie, with Bettany bought on board to replace him.

This is a fairly unorthodox move, and last week Bettany disclosed in an interview that Howard had actually been forced to do a lot more filming that he had initially wanted to. This would seem to bear out that the material he had been left to work with was proving more difficult to adapt than he had first thought.

Given the essential qualities that Harrison Ford bought to the success of the role, the choice of a Han Solo origins story had always carried with it more risk than the studio was perhaps comfortable with. Couple that with the existence of this mysterious stumbling block that half of the directors Lucasfilm hire seem to reach, and the massive overreaction by some hardcore fans to The Last Jedi, then it’s entirely conceivable that the damage has unfortunately already been done to the project before it even reaches cinemas.

A trailer for Solo: A Star Wars Story is expected within the next week, and the movie is due for release on May 25th, 2018.

http://www.screengeek.net/2017/12/24/disney-expects-solo-a-star-wars-story-to-bomb/