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STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI

If you have seen STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI, how would you rate it?


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Well I think that even in the magical world of Star Wars there are some real-world concerns that these guys have to worry about.

All of these massive spaceships no doubt cost tons of money to produce and acquire--there's even a line in this film about the Rebellion buying weapons from the same people the First Order gets theirs from--so they don't exactly grow on trees. To lose one is to lose a huge investment, especially for a small, cash-strapped group that's on the brink of extinction, and if they just go ramming their ships into the First Order's ships on a consistent basis, it won't be long before they have no ships left. Then what?

Maybe it would make some sense if the Rebellion was the larger, dominant organization but that's clearly not the case. They're a ragtag group of rabble-rousers and by this point there's not much left of them.

I think what's important to understand about the moment in the movie is that they were about to lose that ship anyway. That ship was fucked, there was no saving it, hence the evacuation. In that moment the decision to sacrifice it made sense only because it was about to either be destroyed or captured by the enemy.
I don't disagree with your explanation, the problem we keep circling, at least from my end, is that this entire argument is like an atheist arguing with a Christian about the authenticity of Bible stories. The whole story is stupid to me. It shouldn't of ever existed, we shouldn't be having to have a serious discussion about it.
The reason why this was a bad movie for me was because it's a bad story. No amount of explaining or rationalizing, or what iffing will change that for me.
 
Given Carrie Fisher's death IRL, why not flip the script a bit and have Leia die and Luke live on? Killing Leia off screen in between movies sucks hard, as does recasting Leia as Carrie Fisher is Leia. And they already ruled out CGI Leia. It could have been storylined easily enough to Leia sacrificing herself causing Luke to saddle up for one last go in Episode IX.

Because they need Leia and Rey to be the final heroes. It just seems so forced.

The lightspeed raming would have made a good sendoff I'd agree, indeed if they really wanted to commit to that story of having Poe act against his leadership it would have had WAY more impact if it had been her.

Part of the problem I'd say is that the films want to have it both ways, they both want to switch the focus off of the older heroes but also want to play off of attachment to them. So instead of their really shifting to a kind of Obi Wan position of wisdom they end up being made flawed to play up the new characters and so they can relearn lessons we already saw in the original films.
 
So, Snoke was pretty cool. Too bad what happened.
Was he Mace Windu?

Rian Johnson was specifically telling you Snoke is not anything you guessed he might have been, because Rian Johnson is too clever to do something you'd predict.

Same with Rey. He looked at every fan theory about her origins and lineage and...made sure he didn't do any of them.

Same with Luke. Will he train her? Will he turn dark or is he actually Snoke? Fuck you, none of them.

He outsmarted all of you. Don't you feel dumb now for thinking you could predict any aspect of a Rian Johnson screenplay? Silly rabbit.
 
Rian Johnson was specifically telling you Snoke is not anything you guessed he might have been, because Rian Johnson is too clever to do something you'd predict.

Same with Rey. He looked at every fan theory about her origins and lineage and...made sure he didn't do any of them.

Same with Luke. Will he train her? Will he turn dark or is he actually Snoke? Fuck you, none of them.

He outsmarted all of you. Don't you feel dumb now for thinking you could predict any aspect of a Rian Johnson screenplay? Silly rabbit.

I should just predict that his next screen play is going to be garbage.

Seems like a safe bet.
 
TLJ is now dropped to 91% on RT for critics reviews.

It seems to be dropping over the days.

Still 52% for audience reviews
 
just saw it

will post full rambling thoughts tomorrow at work when I dont feel like working!


right now though feel like it was a messy mish-mash of B-plots that had 1 REALLY great A plot that was criminally underutilized, and a fuck load of logical inconsistencies - (why not hyperspace into the imperial fleet in the first place and save everyone the fucking grief?)

still way fucking better than Rogue One.
 
TLJ is now dropped to 91% on RT for critics reviews.

It seems to be dropping over the days.

Still 52% for audience reviews

These stats are pretty meaningless, though. At least the audience reviews are. User reviews on the internet have always been worthless.
 
I should just predict that his next screen play is going to be garbage.

Seems like a safe bet.

He'll write a good one just so he can tell you to fuck yourself with the movie.
 
These stats are pretty meaningless, though. At least the audience reviews are. User reviews on the internet have always been worthless.

Is that why you tried to push your user score bullcrap on me like a week ago

I see through your bullshit
 
You told me my opinion on a movie was worthless cause it didn't match up with high critics and high user scores

I can find the post if you want

No, that's not what I said. Youre obviously still upset about it but this isn't the thread for it.
 
I predict the critics review score will settle down to something realistic after the reviews cant hurt the box office.

Because thats how much cred RT has.
 
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