STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI

[YellowBanenoo]

I also like How Rey beat Luke . . .

No training at all and she has

Beat Kylo
Beat Luke
Beat and killed some elite guards

All without any formal training.



<{cruzshake}> This movie.

<Oku02>
You just don't understand, do you ? She portraits how STRONG and AMAZING a self empowered woman can be. Modern women don't need any help from a foul male.

 

[DragRacer]

We walked out on it. I’m annoyed that we contributed to the financial success of this SJW propaganda piece of shit. It’s only the second movie in my life I didn’t even care to finish watching.

No disrespect to those who loved it , the world would be boring if we were all the same..I really just fucking despised it.

 

[GtehMVP]

I've never played Battlefront 2, or any other Star Wars game for that matter, so I'm not up to speed. What are the criticisms of that game that make it hollow?

In the 2017 Star Wars Battlefront 2 by EA, the meat of the content (Weapons, heroes and upgrades) is locked away behind ridiculous hours of grinding. They were intentionally made difficult to obtain through earning currency/crafting parts to encourage players to pay to get them. You couldn't actually buy anything specifically though, you could only buy lootboxes that gave you random things, not necessarily elements that would let you obtain those things, essentially gambling. It was so incredibly nefarious that it set off a political backlash that could lead to regulatory changes at the federal level. The reaction/blowback is absolutely unprecedented

This is probably the best video behind it, def worth a watch.

 

[YellowBanenoo]

One thing I really don't understand is that the Disney's decision to let the complete NOBODY to direct and write one of their biggest movie franchises ever. The director/writer Rian Johnson had nothing in his resume other than a mediocre movie Looper. Production went too safe with Force awaken, they were even criticized of having no balls, yet for last Jedi, they went full overboard with other direction and let this random retard from a street put his jizz all over their product.

 

[BisexualMMA]

In the 2017 Star Wars Battlefront 2 by EA, the meat of the content (Weapons, heroes and upgrades) is locked away behind ridiculous hours of grinding. They were intentionally made difficult to obtain through earning currency/crafting parts to encourage players to pay to get them. You couldn't actually buy anything specifically though, you could only buy lootboxes that gave you random things, not necessarily elements that would let you obtain those things, essentially gambling. It was so incredibly nefarious that it set off a political backlash that could lead to regulatory changes at the federal level. The reaction/blowback is absolutely unprecedented

This is probably the best video behind it, def worth a watch.

See, if Rian Johnson had designed the game, the second you pay money to unlock a new ability, your character would get downgraded permanently.

 

[BisexualMMA]

One thing I really don't understand is that the Disney's decision to let the complete NOBODY to direct and write one of their biggest movie franchises ever. The director/writer Rian Johnson had nothing in his resume other than a mediocre movie Looper. Production went too safe with Force awaken, they were even criticized of having no balls, yet for last Jedi, they went full overboard with other direction and let this random retard from a street put his jizz all over their product.

Well, Brick received a fair amount of acclaim. But Rian Johnson is a narcissist, and this particular project gave him the grandest stage imaginable to demonstrate that he's smarter than everybody else.

He has certainly demonstrated a number of good filmmaking skills in previous movies. My best guess is that Kathleen Kennedy knew he could put together good visuals and he was on board to work in political messages and toy product placement as required.

I find both of these to be issues in crafting a good film, though not necessarily fatal. But the thing I mentioned first, Rian Johnson first and foremost using the film as an essay on his own unpredictability and cleverness, doomed this movie from the opening bell.

 

[YellowBanenoo]

Well, Brick received a fair amount of acclaim. But Rian Johnson is a narcissist, and this particular project gave him the grandest stage imaginable to demonstrate that he's smarter than everybody else.

He has certainly demonstrated a number of good filmmaking skills in previous movies. My best guess is that Kathleen Kennedy knew he could put together good visuals and he was on board to work in political messages and toy product placement as required.

I find both of these to be issues in crafting a good film, though not necessarily fatal. But the thing I mentioned first, Rian Johnson first and foremost using the film as an essay on his own unpredictability and cleverness, doomed this movie from the opening bell.

Sad all those critics jerking him off for " Breaking " the movie cliche will boost his narcissism even more. At least now i know I should stay away from his movies specially if it's written by him lol

 

[BisexualMMA]

Sad all those critics jerking him off for " Breaking " the movie cliche will boost his narcissism even more. At least now i know I should stay away from his movies specially if it's written by him lol

That's my concern. That this movie will be financially and critically successful enough that it inspires other filmmakers to enter beloved franchises and think they are outsmarting the audience by burning that beloved world down and strutting through the ashes.

So intellectual, so unpredictable, so meta. Sure, James Cameron and Sylvester Stallone and George Lucas and Francis Ford Coppola and Mario Puzo and Steven Spielberg can create these incredible worlds and characters. But look at how I can reduce them to rubble, and I bet that was the last thing you expected.

It is so much more difficult to build than to destroy. This film is literally the opposite of movie magic, and it is successfully masquerading as movie magic.

 

[YellowBanenoo]

That's my concern. That this movie will be financially and critically successful enough that inspires other filmmakers to enter beloved franchises and think they are outsmarting the audience by burning that beloved world down and strutting through the ashes.

So intellectual, so unpredictable, so meta. Sure, James Cameron and Sylvester Stallone and Mario Puzo and created this incredible worlds and characters. But look at how I can ruin them, and I bet that was the last thing you expected.

<Oku02>
Welcome to the era where movie directors are trolling the audience.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

I won't stop you. I don't often view a movie with such disdain, but I think this really is a special case.

High highs, low lows. That's how I viewed it.

The characters are all good imo some just need more development. I like Ren a lot, His character is great. But I was dissatisfied with a lot of things as well.

 

[YellowBanenoo]

High highs, low lows. That's how I viewed it.

The characters are all good imo some just need more development. I like Ren a lot, His character is great. But I was dissatisfied with a lot of things as well.

What do you think about Rose. Do you think the director purposely cast an ugly chick in a major role in order to be " creative and Innovative " ?

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

What do you think about Rose. Do you think the director purposely cast an ugly chick in a major role in order to be " creative and Innovative " ?

Who cares if she's hot or not. None of that bothers me.

I didn't love their sub plot but I don't dislike either character. Rose im neither impressed or unimpressed with tho. She's just "whatever." She even had a few good moments but I didn't care for that sub plot to begin with. If she wasn't there who really cares lol

I like Finn and want more from him. I was hoping he was force sensitive as well, the force being the driving force he and Rey's paths crossed. I don't think that's an option now lol

 

[BisexualMMA]

High highs, low lows. That's how I viewed it.

The characters are all good imo some just need more development. I like Ren a lot, His character is great. But I was dissatisfied with a lot of things as well.

Fair enough. I don't expect everyone to share my fundamental opposition to what Johnson was trying to do. But I think it dwarfs all other issues like underdeveloped characters.

 

[YellowBanenoo]

Who cares if she's hot or not. None of that bothers me.

I didn't love their sub plot but I don't dislike either character. Rose im neither impressed or unimpressed with tho. She's just "whatever." She even had a few good moments but I didn't care for that sub plot to begin with. If she wasn't there who really cares lol

I like Finn and want more from him. I was hoping he was force sensitive as well, the force being the driving force he and Rey's paths crosses. I don't think that's an option now lol

Many people cared actually, specially Asians. One of my friend told me she wasn't comfortable watching the film because of the actress. She felt like her race was represented in a wrong way. A bit insecure way of thought but I can dig her point.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

Many people cared actually, specially Asians. One of my friend told me she wasn't comfortable watching the film because of the actress. She felt like her race was represented in a wrong way. A bit insecure way of thought but I can dig her point.

I don't understand what your friend was uncomfortable with

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

Fair enough. I don't expect everyone to share my fundamental opposition to what Johnson was trying to do. But I think it dwarfs all other issues like underdeveloped characters.

Johnson and his 'meta,' 'smarter than thou' wasn't my cup of tea either. There was a great movie in there someplace tho. The pieces were there and many of the ideas as well. Execution let me down


Maybe because i read the novels and the comics I expected some things to be handled differently

 

[Myrddin Wild]

The “training” wasn’t enough to explain her destroying multiple Praetorian guards.

at least we'd seen SOME training of her take place since then. Granted I still think not nearly enough which really feeds into part of the problem

I also like How Rey beat Luke . . .

No training at all and she has

Beat Kylo
Beat Luke
Beat and killed some elite guards

All without any formal training.

The explanations were revealed off screen in the books. Her elite staff fighter skills were well known on Jakku. The scoundrels know better than to f*ck with her. The force may of just awakened in her... but like Anakin was the only human who could pod-race when he was a young kid... I find it easy to believe that she developed Elite fighting skills that were superior to non-force sensitive people.

It's not like Kylo was really trying to fight her. Kylo was trying to recruit her... not kill her. Big difference. I got no problem that Rey's Staff fighting skills can translate to the sword.

In TFA she's alone but a self sufficient teeny bopper amongst a hive of scum and villainy on Tattooine, errr Jakku. With no training, she beats up multiple men with her staff (doesn't need her hand held btw), flies the Falcon on her first try like a boss, fixes it better than Han, speaks Wookie, uses mind tricks, defeats Kylo by mashing the A button/using only thrusting strikes... She's a strong independent wimmins I tells ya, or as it's also known, another poorly written Mary Sue

The above answer is for you as well. Also... Rey made her home in a downed Imperial All Terrain Armored Transport (AT-AT), named Hellhound Two, left over from the Battle of Jakku. It had a working computer that she learned droid & alien languages from. (including Wookie) It also contained schematics of many Empire & resistance ships that she studied expertly as that was critical to her trade as a parts scavenger. She was so good on the pilot flight simulator (also on that same computer) that she would program it for problems to occur that she would have to over come. Flying the Falcon took a moment to get used to teh difference in controls between the simulator & the Actual controls... but once she got used to that, her simulator training allowed her to fly it expertly.

She didn't know more than Han about the Falcon... it's just that her trade is to know how ships work so that she can know what the parts are worth... & so she's very well studied. Like young Anakin, I expect her force potential allowed her to be able to take in information at a higher capacity than most... & to be able to fix things.

Rey is a shining example to young girls everywhere. You can come from nothing, do nothing, and still become the most important/powerful person in the world, so long as you have a vagina.

This is a story about a girl who worked very hard for her abilities. She struggled all her life... had to develop elite fighting skills for survival... & schooled herself off of the computer she had available. That's all she had to do for all those years living alone. So she didn't just wake up one day with all this knowledge & skill. She worked very hard for a decade with nothing less than her own life on the line if she didn't figure it all out.

It's a gripe that it all happened off screen... but it is canon.

 

[LC Shepard]

One thing I really don't understand is that the Disney's decision to let the complete NOBODY to direct and write one of their biggest movie franchises ever. The director/writer Rian Johnson had nothing in his resume other than a mediocre movie Looper. Production went too safe with Force awaken, they were even criticized of having no balls, yet for last Jedi, they went full overboard with other direction and let this random retard from a street put his jizz all over their product.

My best bet as to why they want a "nobody" is because it's way cheaper than having somone decent and they can make them their bitch. If the top management wants toys, merchandise and things to work a certain way (lead female, porgs etc) then they can force the nobody to do what they want. They can't make someone like James Cameron be their monkey boy.

 

[Bob Gray]

In TFA she's alone but a self sufficient teeny bopper amongst a hive of scum and villainy on Tattooine, errr Jakku. With no training, she beats up multiple men with her staff (doesn't need her hand held btw), flies the Falcon on her first try like a boss, fixes it better than Han, speaks Wookie, uses mind tricks, defeats Kylo by mashing the A button/using only thrusting strikes... She's a strong independent wimmins I tells ya, or as it's also known, another poorly written Mary Sue

I hated her acting in TFA, but she was better in the TLJ, only her character was worse. With a day or two of training at best, she defeats a Jedi Master (Jake), pwns Snoke's elite guards with stellar swordsmanship while needing to save the highly trained Kylo, not to mention she moves/holds untold tons of rubble to wrap this hot mess up.

Rey is a shining example to young girls everywhere. You can come from nothing, do nothing, and still become the most important/powerful person in the world, so long as you have a vagina. Fuck these movies!

I have never heard nor responded to any of these points before.

 

[Tiny]

See, if Rian Johnson had designed the game, the second you pay money to unlock a new ability, your character would get downgraded permanently.

Not if you were female