STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI

If you have seen STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI, how would you rate it?

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Lavitz said:
The animated series and comics fleshed him out greatly. Too bad the movies did show any of this development.
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They tried to fix him but I thought as something between AOTC and ROTS it didn't work. It was like a retcon but they couldn't go all the way because ROTS was still there. It was also very long. I liked the microseries more as a ROTS prequel.
 
KONG-D'SNT-TAP said:
No movie with such horrible dialogue can be brilliant.

By having this opinion you’re actually shitting on other movies that are masterpieces and art.

You can like this movie all you want, Hell, I like it a lot also but I’m not delusional enough to think it’s a masterpiece or brilliant.

That’s all nonsense
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This. The dialogue is so cringe worthy in that movie. And they axtually managed to make Portman look like she sucks at acting.
 
Magooglie said:
They tried to fix him but I thought as something between AOTC and ROTS it didn't work. It was like a retcon but they couldn't go all the way because ROTS was still there. It was also very long. I liked the microseries more as a ROTS prequel.
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They were planning on running TCW all the way to RotS. But Disney cut it because they wanted to head into a different direction. They wanted more kid friendly stuff.

Sucks because we actually got to see Anakin's interactions with Obi-Wan, Padme and the other Jedi. It showed how incompetent the council was. How the clones worked and their personalities. More lore about the sith training. More saber duels.

Nope Disney said f u creativity and compelling plot lines.
 
shadow_priest_x said:
Greater meaning, richer themes, a deeper and more thoughtful. . .

While this image is probably a unnecessarily combative, I do generally agree with what it's saying:


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It's beyond pretentious to suggest that the prequels taken together form some kind of rich narrative (that's still somehow devoid of characterization and clear motivations, protagonists, antagonists, and story arcs that make sense) with intellectual roots in better work.
Just accept that it was quickly written schlock. He pumped the first draft of Ep 1 out like a few weeks before filming began ffs.
 
Overpressure said:
It's beyond pretentious to suggest that the prequels taken together form some kind of rich narrative (that's still somehow devoid of characterization and clear motivations, protagonists, antagonists, and story arcs that make sense) with intellectual roots in better work.
Just accept that it was quickly written schlock. He pumped the first draft of Ep 1 out like a few weeks before filming began ffs.
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Not sure if you were able to see the full image. If not:

http://ibb.co/kEwBMb

In any case, I think that Lucas had the broad outline of the prequels in his head even in the 70s. After all, Episode IV is Episode IV for a reason.

I'm sure this vision evolved between then and 1999. Not sure that's something we should hold against him.

The question here is whether or not the prequels tell a grander, richer, more thoughtful, more interesting story than the original trilogy. And I think they do.

That certainly doesn't mean they were perfect. Phantom Menace is probably my LEAST FAVORITE film of the entire franchise. But the prequel story when viewed in its entirety is pretty fucking awesome.
 
Lavitz said:
They were planning on running TCW all the way to RotS. But Disney cut it because they wanted to head into a different direction. They wanted more kid friendly stuff.

Sucks because we actually got to see Anakin's interactions with Obi-Wan, Padme and the other Jedi. It showed how incompetent the council was. How the clones worked and their personalities. More lore about the sith training. More saber duels.

Nope Disney said f u creativity and compelling plot lines.
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I don't mean running directly to the start of ROTS. Because Clone Wars was an admittance that ROTS was severely lacking. The movie that Clone Wars was leading up to was not ROTS. It's never been made.
 
Overpressure said:
Oh, hi George!
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So many lines work so well as Anakin lines.

"I'm so happy to have you as my best friend, and I love Padme so much."

"Obi Wan's my best friend!"

"Chicken, Mace Windu, you're just a little chickeeen. Cheep, cheep, cheep, cheep, cheep, cheeep."

"Haaaaaaaughugh! Why Padme, Why Why!?!"

"You're tearing me apart Padme!"

"It's bullshit, I did not hit her. I did not. Oh, hi Obi Wan!"

"Everybody betray me! I’m fed up with this world!"

Forget the bible and Shakespeare. Everyone needs to watch The Room if they want to understand Anakin's character.
 
"God they're already building sets. God help me, I'm gonna hafta start the script pretty soon."

Do ya think so, George?

I criticize the fuck out of the prequels but to be clear, Lucas had a hand in one of the greatest films of all time, and I ain't talking about no CGI movie.
Anyone who knows me knows which one.
It's the one with the most character development. The saber fights have impact because of the back story and how we've seen Luke develop as a person, we get internalization, exposition during a training sequence that tells us a lot of what we need to know about the Force, and so on.
 
Magooglie said:
I don't mean running directly to the start of ROTS. Because Clone Wars was an admittance that ROTS was severely lacking. The movie that Clone Wars was leading up to was not ROTS. It's never been made.
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Yes but they also have unfinished episodes that push on to the late part of War.

Either way Disney made a mistake here .
 
There should be a prequel about Luke and his failed Jedi Padawans.
 
Magooglie said:
There should be a prequel about Luke and his failed Jedi Padawans.
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Could be cool.
But it's been done. It would present a real challenge to a screenwriter to make it different and effective.
We need different, fresh. Please, new characters, new things.
 
Lavitz said:
Palpatine allowed himself to be kidnapped, yes. Grievous had no idea who he was.

Dooku thought he would be taken in prisoner by Anakin. Palps was having none of it.
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I always thought that dooku thought the plan was to best Obi wan, and defeat but not hurt anakin and turn him and have him with them. But dooku didn’t know palp was gonna stay with the theory of two and wanted him killed.
 
Magooglie said:
There should be a prequel about Luke and his failed Jedi Padawans.
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Jedi Knight , Jedi academy sort of covers it.

In a lot of ways some of the games are better prequels and sequels than what we got
 
Overpressure said:
Could be cool.
But it's been done. It would present a real challenge to a screenwriter to make it different and effective.
We need different, fresh. Please, new characters, new things.
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Rian Johnson is making another trilogy of movies with new people, so you can have that lol.

I think the twist for Luke prequel is he's been dead the entire time and he's not really a pussy ass bitch.
 
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