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Except the reaction didn't come from the 'alt right' - the negative reaction from long time fans, who are likely both left and right leaning and was significant in such that people got fed up with 2.5 bad sequels. sure there were alt right or racists or whatever who had issues with certain characters, but i don't think that proves anything was politically significant.
I think you can see the intention though was that any criticism could be characterized as born of bigotry, just how swifty we saw this with The Last Jedi were the "toxic fanbase" line was being brought up in the media within a day of release I think was a real giveaway.
Again I think the "progressive" aspects of the new films to me seem like they were really aimed at pissing off conservatives rather than actually being that progressive, you look a bit more closely and Finn is a cliched comedy sidekick who doesnt have a romance with the white lead, Rose is a cliched geek with a heart of gold, the Holdo plot is basically "obey your superiors no matter what" if they have some kind of tokenistic platform.
The big mistake I think KK and co made was believing the attraction to Starwars was mostly a quite casual one, people who remembered a few bits of nostalgia but were mostly just looking to turn their brain off for 2 hours. There is a good deal of that but its not something which lasts more than 1-2 films and the real staying potential of Starwars is that quite a large amount of the population under say age 50ish do really love the originals.
It's a vague and subtle point. You know in FIGHT CLUB how Tyler says the things you own end up owning you? When we have strong regard for the entertainment we use to distract ourselves from the suffering of dying a slow death, is it really worth getting upset over? Why focus on how much something that is meant to entertain us -- why focus on how much it now disappoints?
The point is the best way to move discussion away is by not engaging in the discussion. Because, as soon as you engage -- your words are politically misconstrued to fit someone else's narrative.
As an example: I know what I'm doing in this thread whereas you have a firmly different held perspective of what I am doing. You have said as much; whether it's a joke or not is beside the point. The point is, optically, no matter what I say contrary to your assertion it is likely you will ignore new data in favor of bias.
Another example is recapitulating KK's push toward inclusivity as a rejection of the traditional fanbase.
Third example: THE LAST JEDI is bad vs THE LAST JEDI is good.
What really boggles my mind is this complex house of cards (which is pretending that STAR WARS means something to gender politics as a whole) all sits on top of yet another layer. That is: politicization is just marketing meant to perpetuate the commodification of STAR WARS.
"Marvel vs DC?" "Who will be the best James Bond?" "Reboots or not??" The wallet loses.
You do realise that Tyler Durden himself wasnt ultimately shown as fountain of wisdom but rather a persona born out of self absorbed arrogance passing itself off as wisdom?

