Star Wars Megathread

[minute bull]

I dont understand your point.

I was simply addressing the alleged claim that 'alt right' reaction was reason enough to prove thats Disney's choice was politically relevant. That's not me making a political statement. That's me trying to move it away from politics.

It's a vague and subtle point. You know in FIGHT CLUB how Tyler says the things you own end up owning you? When we have strong regard for the entertainment we use to distract ourselves from the suffering of dying a slow death, is it really worth getting upset over? Why focus on how much something that is meant to entertain us -- why focus on how much it now disappoints?

The point is the best way to move discussion away is by not engaging in the discussion. Because, as soon as you engage -- your words are politically misconstrued to fit someone else's narrative.

As an example: I know what I'm doing in this thread whereas you have a firmly different held perspective of what I am doing. You have said as much; whether it's a joke or not is beside the point. The point is, optically, no matter what I say contrary to your assertion it is likely you will ignore new data in favor of bias.

Another example is recapitulating KK's push toward inclusivity as a rejection of the traditional fanbase.

Third example: THE LAST JEDI is bad vs THE LAST JEDI is good.

What really boggles my mind is this complex house of cards (which is pretending that STAR WARS means something to gender politics as a whole) all sits on top of yet another layer. That is: politicization is just marketing meant to perpetuate the commodification of STAR WARS.

"Marvel vs DC?" "Who will be the best James Bond?" "Reboots or not??" The wallet loses.

 

[Cool Hand Luke]

it was always a joke, brother

 

[GearSolidMetal]

 

[FyrFytr998]

 

[minute bull]

it was always a joke, brother

Not your brother. That's reframing the dynamic to suit your narrative.

Do you get it? It's a trick, boy. Circular reasoning, son. Foghorn Leghorn.

 

[minute bull]

 

[Cool Hand Luke]

Not your brother. That's reframing the dynamic to suit your narrative.

Do you get it? It's a trick, boy. Circular reasoning, son. Foghorn Leghorn.

ah say ah say, the boys smart but he don't listen

 

[Aegon Spengler]

 

[Thrawn33]

That's a fun mach-up, especially if a lightsaber cauterizes the acid blood.

Wonder if a Facehugger impregnated a Jedi would the Xeno would be Force Sensitive?

 

[Aegon Spengler]

That's a fun mach-up, especially if a lightsaber cauterizes the acid blood.

Wonder if a Facehugger impregnated a Jedi I'd the Xeno would be Force Sensitive?

I mean, why wouldn't it? Man. That's a great idea. You came up with a better plotline right here than they did in three movies. Something like that could really develop, just make it a different kind of insectoid.

 

[Thrawn33]

I mean, why wouldn't it? Man. That's a great idea. You came up with a better plotline right here than they did in three movies. Something like that could really develop, just make it a different kind of insectoid.

Hard to rip off the Xenomorphs without them being obvious Xeno ripoffs. Probably one of my favorite alien races of any genre, definitely top non-sentient.

 

[Aegon Spengler]

Hard to rip off the Xenomorphs without them being obvious Xeno ripoffs. Probably one of my favorite alien races of any genre, definitely top non-sentient.

I wouldn't care. Like I would just be like yep, they're xeno-ripoffs. Sue us.

Disney is always in the middle of a hundred lawsuits they wouldn't even notice

 

[Thrawn33]

I wouldn't care. Like I would just be like yep, they're xeno-ripoffs. Sue us.

Disney is always in the middle of a hundred lawsuits they wouldn't even notice

Not going to lie, just thought up a fan fic plot of Vader hunting down a Jedi or two at an Outer Rim planet/outpost, only to find a Xeno hive has taken over and one of the Jedi is about to chest-burst.

Add a Stormtrooper squad escort as Redshirts.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

That's a fun mach-up, especially if a lightsaber cauterizes the acid blood.

Wonder if a Facehugger impregnated a Jedi would the Xeno would be Force Sensitive?

I mean, why wouldn't it? Man. That's a great idea. You came up with a better plotline right here than they did in three movies. Something like that could really develop, just make it a different kind of insectoid.

Hard to rip off the Xenomorphs without them being obvious Xeno ripoffs. Probably one of my favorite alien races of any genre, definitely top non-sentient.

For those who are interested, the most threatening antagonists in Star Wars was the Yuuzhan Vong. Think Xenomorphs, mixed with Predators, and the Zerg from Starcraft, but humanoid.

Their war with the New Republic was told over the 19-book series 'The New Jedi Order.' And over the first half of that series, they were ripping through the Republic and it seemed like they were going to win.

If would like to know more, here's the wookiepedia link or a video by Star Wars Theory.

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Yuuzhan_Vong

 

[Thrawn33]

For those who are interested, the most threatening antagonists in Star Wars was the Yuuzhan Vong. Think Xenomorphs, mixed with Predators, and the Zerg from Starcraft, but humanoid.

Their war with the New Republic was told over the 19-book series 'The New Jedi Order.' And over the first half of that series, they were ripping through the Republic and it seemed like they were going to win.

If would like to know more, here's the wookiepedia link or a video by Star Wars Theory.

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Yuuzhan_Vong

Funny thing is after buying a few of the first NJO novels as they came out....I lost interest. Not saying the writing or anything was bad, it's just that I never took the Vong as seriously as the Empire...despite the great work some great authors did to hype them...and felt they'd be gone and we'd get some kind of Empire back...and I see that's happened in the EU and probably need to catch up.

Later EU also made it appear Thrawn was part of the reason the Vong stayed away....I can only imagine that if Disney didn't kill the EU we would've got some epic Chiss/Empire/Empire of The Hand setting Thrawn vs Vong.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Funny thing is after buying a few of the first NJO novels as they came out....I lost interest. Not saying the writing or anything was bad, it's just that I never took the Vong as seriously as the Empire...despite the great work some great authors did to hype them...and felt they'd be gone and we'd get some kind of Empire back...and I see that's happened in the EU and probably need to catch up.

Later EU also made it appear Thrawn was part of the reason the Vong stayed away....I can only imagine that if Disney didn't kill the EU we would've got some epic Chiss/Empire/Empire of The Hand setting Thrawn vs Vong.

I haven't read them... yet... but I'm looking forward to it.

From what I've heard about the fandom in the 90s that regularly read every new book, they were getting tired of resurrections of versions of the empire always being the antagonists. At the very least, the Vong were an original threat.

 

[Aegon Spengler]

I haven't read them... yet... but I'm looking forward to it.

From what I've heard about the fandom in the 90s that regularly read every new book, they were getting tired of resurrections of versions of the empire always being the antagonists. At the very least, the Vong were an original threat.

I remember loving the Vong and kind of "aging out" and getting into other things almost immediately after.

I found them creepy and frightening as a kid. Liked to imagine sneaking around on their spikey ships. As a plot I really enjoyed it, because they did the whole "we were always out there but you didn't know about it" thing in a way that made more sense of the Empire and the building the death stars. Some parts I hated. I think at one point the Republic got a superweapon and one of the kids, I can't remember which one, stopped them from using it. I was like suck that kid out the airlock man...

 

[Thrawn33]

I haven't read them... yet... but I'm looking forward to it.

From what I've heard about the fandom in the 90s that regularly read every new book, they were getting tired of resurrections of versions of the empire always being the antagonists. At the very least, the Vong were an original threat.

Will give them credit for bringing the Empire in as an ally later (notably Pallaeon) but I felt after Visions of the Future, they could've done better with some stories with the "Friendly Empire" as protagonists...even so much as introducing the Vong vs them, then shifting to the NJO, then having the New Rep/Imp team up be even more epic...complete with some new Imperial characters that we cared about. Even as a huge fan of the non-evil Imperials I felt their appearance in NJO felt flat. Pallaeon was a welcome return, as was the Fell Fam, but they missed the chance to build new Imp characters.

Just my opinion.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Just my opinion.

And your opinion is valued.

From what I hear, the EU books between Ep6 and New Jedi Order series was a great continuation of the OT, but it felt like they were afraid to really separate from the kid-friendly PG-rated formula of the movies.

In New Jedi Order, it gets pretty damn dark... killing off numerous fan-favorite characters, including one from the the movies (no spoilers).

Regardless of the series's flaws, which there obviously would be in a 19-book series with 13 authors, its when Star Wars grew up, which it certainly needed to happen as fans grew older and wanted a more mature Star Wars.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

By the way, there ONE thing that is keeping this fanart from being epic.

Vader should be looking at the queen, the biggest threat, rather than his head being almost bowed.