Star Wars Megathread

[Myrddin Wild]

GOOD LORD @lifelessheap you must be in tears by now after seeing all this. I know I am.

 

[lifelessheap]

Wow, @lifelessheap I've seen the sequelz at least half a dozen times & this is really eye opening to me how much she struggled.

Oh shit... there's more?

What a bunch of baloney. Sure things happened to her but she was always the smartest, strongest, most capable, most loved and trusted. And she was never in real danger.

Boring!

She was so OP she didn't really ever have to train. And she was played by a boring piece of drift wood.

Maybe learn how story telling works?

 

[lifelessheap]

Wow, @lifelessheap I've seen the sequelz at least half a dozen times & this is really eye opening to me how much she struggled.

Oh shit... there's more?

It is fucking cringe worthy.

 

[deviake]

 

[FyrFytr998]

What a bunch of baloney. Sure things happened to her but she was always the smartest, strongest, most capable, most loved and trusted. And she was never in real danger.

Boring!

She was so OP she didn't really ever have to train. And she was played by a boring piece of drift wood.

Maybe learn how story telling works?

Careful or else the card carrying members of the Mary Sue Club will cancel you.

 

[FyrFytr998]

And the hypocrisy continues.....


But did him dirty for the China dollar....


While forgetting James and Carl’s birthdays while remembering the birthdays of the women who played Star Wars two most hated characters.

 

[Thrawn33]

What a bunch of baloney. Sure things happened to her but she was always the smartest, strongest, most capable, most loved and trusted. And she was never in real danger.

Boring!

She was so OP she didn't really ever have to train. And she was played by a boring piece of drift wood.

Maybe learn how story telling works?

She didn't even lose a body part.....

 

[lifelessheap]

She didn't even lose a body part.....

She didn't lose to Kylo who had been training nearly his whole life... In the first movie, while she had no training and no mentorship.

That's is like an A level athlete dominating MMA without ever training wrestling, striking or BJJ. It doesn't make sense. How the fuck does she know everything?

 

[Thrawn33]

She didn't lose to Kylo who had been training nearly his whole life... In the first movie, while she had no training and no mentorship.

That's is like an A level athlete dominating MMA without ever training wrestling, striking or BJJ. It doesn't make sense. How the fuck does she know everything?

Because the Force is Female?

 

[Crawler89]

like I get it and im tired of rehashing the "Sequals suck" thing

they tried to make little girls look at Rey the way we look at Luke when we were boys and such

But...yeah. she had no huge development. was always able to one up etc.

I cant find the meme, but it was in the original trilogy in the millenium falcon cockpit..you had four characters or so who each had a role. Then in the latest, Rey filled all four of em lol

Found it

 

[lifelessheap]

Because the Force is Female?

Technically correct. And it sucks all of the suspence out. Why care? Why care when she fights Kylo again? She beat him as a rookie. LoL.

Zero cares achieved.

The OG stories resonated on so many levels. So many awesome journies. So many amazing friendships. So much growth.

LoL. The sequel trilogy is so bad in comparison.

 

[Thrawn33]

like I get it and im tired of rehashing the "Sequals suck" thing

they tried to make little girls look at Rey the way we look at Luke when we were boys and such

But...yeah. she had no huge development. was always able to one up etc.

I cant find the meme, but it was in the original trilogy in the millenium falcon cockpit..you had four characters or so who each had a role. Then in the latest, Rey filled all four of em lol

Found it

Then and now...little girls probably want to be more like Leia.

I remember my daughter thinking Leia and even Padme were cool when she was 7ish....fast forward over 10 years and she was more a Jyn Erso fan as opposed to Rey when it came to the new shit.

Hell I remember her liking old Maz in FA more than Rey....

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Anyone else first think when they saw this in theaters - 'This is very rape-y."

???

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Also, 'Rian Johnson' and 'The Last Jedi' are both trending based on the word of this 'journalist' that Johnson's trilogy "is still on."



My take - This is just a pathetic attempt from a Disney shill to help LucasFilm change the subject from Gina Carano's first public comments after her firing.

Its not going to work.

Everybody, including LucasFilm, knows Rian's name on anything related to Star Wars is pure poison.

There's been no word about even if Rian has finished writing the first draft of the script, which would be his final draft.

LucasFilm & Disney is probably hoping within a short time fans will look back at the sequel trilogy with newfound respect, like now how many look at the prequels trilogy, and may bring back Rian with some kind of fanfare. But that isn't going to happen.

When I said 'pathetic attempt,' I'm not exaggerating. "Oh shit. We fired one of the most popular actresses of the most popular Star Wars IPs in recent memory, which was also the most popular series on Disney+, which led to the most cancellations of subscriptions of Disney+ yet. We need to change the subject to something fans will love. Any ideas?"

"Put out there that Rian Johnson's trlogy 'is still on!"

"Brilliant!"

Tone
Deaf
As
Fuck

 

[Crawler89]

Then and now...little girls probably want to be more like Leia.

I remember my daughter thinking Leia and even Padme were cool when she was 7ish....fast forward over 10 years and she was more a Jyn Erso fan as opposed to Rey when it came to the new shit.

Hell I remember her liking old Maz in FA more than Rey....

Yup. Like I said...tried.

 

[Myrddin Wild]

She was so OP she didn't really ever have to train.

It's self evident across 6 movies spanning 40 years that force users have a higher capacity for learning.

Before we even meet her for the first time we find out:
She's a self taught elite level staff fighter.
She's a self taught pilot
She taught herself how to speek ShreeWook
She taught herself how to speak binary droid language.
etc.

She grew up in that shithole with that shit head but rose to the challenge even in those circumstances. You don't need all the detail of how she learned it all. It's self evident.

Think Anakin building a pod racer & being the only human who can drive one as an 11 year old. We didn't see him practicing in the movie... we didn't see him learning how to be a mechanic... but we understand that even though the force hasn't awoken in him yet that he has levels of focus beyond those of normal people.

In Ep. 4 Luke just then meets the rebels, & the next thing you know they've given him an X-wing & we see Luke as a master pilot. We didn't see him go to school, (where he was a student pilot) but he just mentioned a few times that he's "not such a bad pilot" & then pops into an X-wing & is automatically the best pilot on the team. You don't need all that background played out to enjoy or understand the movie. It's self evident that he has skills far in advanced to normal people. However, if you would like more detail... then there's a wonderful Canon universe with enough detail to tickle anyone's fancy.

Maybe learn how story telling works?

You want to start insulting me because you have a different pov than me?
I can turn up the jalapeno too

The highest priority even the biggest armchair movie critic can't dis-agree with is that this is an entertainment medium & there's no scientific formula that guarantees success. It's how the individual likes it... it's how the masses enjoyed it that is of the highest priority, & the masses say they like it. Even Lucas feels like he just hit on magic & can't pinpoint exactly why SW's is so different.

So your declaration that I need to take a class or something about "proper movie making technique" is WAY WAY secondary to whether or not I enjoyed it or not. We can talk about that stuff if you like, but don't make it out like I'm wrong & you're right. I usually discuss plot details with people who are missing something & there is often a right or wrong in discussions like that, but to bring that kind of "right or wrong declaration" into whether or not it was good... is just your opinion.

 

[Myrddin Wild]

Sure things happened to her but she was always the smartest, strongest, most capable, most loved and trusted.

Smartest - General Leia Organa
Strongest & most capable - Snoke & even Kylo at first
Most loved & trusted - Leia & Chewy

And she was never in real danger.

Boring!

I'd say being strapped into a rapist chair & fully contained counts as being in danger. How about being made unconscious in the woods by some creepy goth guy wearing a fooking mask & a cape who was shown to order the mass murdering of an entire village. I'm pretty sure he impregnated her & the next trilogy will be about their bastard child. Kind of a waste raping her while unconscious... I'd bet her kegelz are off teh hook!!!

Snoke had her floating & in crushing pain & it took little to no effort on his part to do so. I felt like she was in extreme danger then.

Maybe you're just too used to the good guy always winning, but they were in a life & death chase from Storm troopers & explosions going off all around her & in the Falcon chase right at the beginning & she was even attacked by thugs after orders from her stepdad. In fact, Rey was pretty much in danger the whole fooking 1st movie.

All that stuff is just off the top of my head

 

[Deleted member 110072]

What a bunch of baloney. Sure things happened to her but she was always the smartest, strongest, most capable, most loved and trusted. And she was never in real danger.

Boring!

She was so OP she didn't really ever have to train. And she was played by a boring piece of drift wood.

Maybe learn how story telling works?

In TFA espeically I think one of the biggest problems with the film is that she's just being thrown around by the plot into a sucession of threatening situations to overcome. Even though ANH is dramatically a simpler film than the following two its still a film driven by Luke's character, its the story of a farm boy who dreams of adventure and following his father in becoming a mystical warrior and then does those things. So Luke discovering force powers for example has dramatic weight for him were as with Rey its more a random event thrust upon her.

Thats why I'v never agreed that Last Jedi "ruined what Abrams had set up" because Abrams really set up fuck all beyond the films first 10 mins or so and then largely ingored the motivations of the characters he'd introduced in favour of throwing plot/action/nosatgia/sitcom zingers at the audience so fast they can't keep up. He didnt even build the setting, compared to ANH we had very little idea what the situation was politically.

I do still think the only part of the sequels that was really worthwhile was the Kylo/Rey plot in Last Jedi, that was I think built up quite effectively which made it even more annoying when it was effectively cut off in favour of a tacked on ending with the chaarcters reduced back to simple good/evil.

 

[Myrddin Wild]

She didn't lose to Kylo who had been training nearly his whole life... In the first movie, while she had no training and no mentorship.

It's self evident that force users learn quicker. A LOT QUICKER.

She was an elite level staff fighter before we met her... & she was training because her survival depended on it. Silver Spoon Kylo was training because he was bored probably.

We didn't need Anakin's back story to see how he became a pilot & mechanic at 11 yrs old & we didn't need Luke's backstory as to how he became a master pilot.

& kylo was critically injured & she kicked him right in that spot. Also, Kylo wasn't trying to kill her. He was trying to recruit her. He obviously could've just killed her by how he threw her up against the tree. Then she surprised him & got one up on him.

 

[One MMA Fan]

Anyone else first think when they saw this in theaters - 'This is very rape-y."

???

I never saw this giant freaky old alien as a danger in the way you mention it but that first 2 movies Kylo seems like he doesn't take no for an answer.