Star Wars Megathread

FyrFytr998 said:
You're not wrong. The fact the Jedi didn't employ a force crush is one reason the Clone Wars took as long as it did. I have a hard time believing that a disciplined Jedi couldn't employ it without falling to the dark Side. Mace used it just fine on Grievous.

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Good point, forgot about that. I need to watch that series again
 
FyrFytr998 said:
You're not wrong. The fact the Jedi didn't employ a force crush is one reason the Clone Wars took as long as it did. I have a hard time believing that a disciplined Jedi couldn't employ it without falling to the dark Side. Mace used it just fine on Grievous.

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Interesting take, on one side you have folks that believe droids are sentient and therefore directly using the force to "kill" them is bad.

On the other side, crushing a droid with the force is no different than crushing a tin can.

That was always my gripe with the force techniques...dismembering folks with lightsabers is cool, as is blowing up their ship into the cold vacuum of space
....choking them to death, slamming them into shit, crushing them, or electrocution is bad though...
 
Thrawn33 said:
Interesting take, on one side you have folks that believe droids are sentient and therefore directly using the force to "kill" them is bad.

On the other side, crushing a droid with the force is no different than crushing a tin can.

That was always my gripe with the force techniques...dismembering folks with lightsabers is cool, as is blowing up their ship into the cold vacuum of space
....choking them to death, slamming them into shit, crushing them, or electrocution is bad though...
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Makes no sense.
 
Thrawn33 said:
Interesting take, on one side you have folks that believe droids are sentient and therefore directly using the force to "kill" them is bad.

On the other side, crushing a droid with the force is no different than crushing a tin can.

That was always my gripe with the force techniques...dismembering folks with lightsabers is cool, as is blowing up their ship into the cold vacuum of space
....choking them to death, slamming them into shit, crushing them, or electrocution is bad though...
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Jedi follow PG rules when killing
 
Let's talk worst EU (legends)

I never fucked with Children of the Jedi series, so I won't comment.

That said, I felt Crystal Star, New Rebellion and Bounty Hunter Tales sucked ass as a reader. Major disappointment seeing Boba, Black Sun and Co badly butchered...

Jedi Academy Trilogy and Darksaber had some serious negative issues as well but weren't terrible.

Black Fleet Crisis Trilogy had some decent moments but was largely forgettable, I did enjoy seeing the politics of New Republic being more real world though.
 
I finished up Claudia Gray's High Republic book Into the Dark. Still just an offshoot of the main story, but pretty good offshoot story

She writes pretty good Star Wars stuff, I enjoyed her other books Master and Apprentice, and Bloodline

Next book I'm itching for, will be a few months, but the new Thrawn book Greater Good
 
Thrawn33 said:
Interesting take, on one side you have folks that believe droids are sentient and therefore directly using the force to "kill" them is bad.

On the other side, crushing a droid with the force is no different than crushing a tin can.

That was always my gripe with the force techniques...dismembering folks with lightsabers is cool, as is blowing up their ship into the cold vacuum of space
....choking them to death, slamming them into shit, crushing them, or electrocution is bad though...
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A person comes to attack/kill you scenario. Using a firearm or nearby weapon to defend yourself is acceptable usually. Subduing that individual to choke them to death is usually not acceptable.

And to bring it back to Star Wars, tapping into powers like lightning means tapping into the dark side to conjure, a no no for the Jedi. If you want to go deep EU, there is a “Sith lightning” and “force lightning” the latter of which is usable through the light side, but shunned due to its closeness to the dark side power. And as far as force choke, it’s like torture. While a Jedi does. It want to kill, if they have to, they don’t want to prolong it and make the person/creature suffer if they don’t have to.
 
Aegon Spengler said:
Which Jedi has the highest personal kill count? Luke I guess?
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Thrawn33 said:
Vader's got to be close...even with Luke's Death Star mass Murder.
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According to various sources: A full Death Star 1 held about 1.1 million people. Death Star 2 had about 1.3 million, not including slaves/ construction workers who were actively building it.

As far as Jedi, it is easily Luke BUT Lando and Wedge were the ones who flew inside DS2 and actually blew it up so depending on who got “the kill shot” that actually triggered the explosion, either Lando or Wedge had the highest Star Wars kill count.
 
UNLESS you count Alderaan then you can narrow it down to 2 people. Tarkin of the DS crew member, Tenn Graneet(Legends), who actually fired the laser.

Tenn Graneet Is credited with firing the Death Star laser that blew up 2 planets. The deadliest single creature in the SW universe. Maybe only the yuuzhan vong as a combined whole have a higher kill found.
 
Thrawn33 said:
Vader's got to be close...even with Luke's Death Star mass Murder.
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Vader isn’t a Jedi though right? Anakin never actually “mass murdered” a whole population either, I don’t think. Tarkin not a Jedi. I guess Darth Revan was a Jedi at one point, he killed a lot of people right?

Vader is at least partially responsible for Alderrann. But I like to think if they asked him to do it, he would have hesitated. Might not have gone through with it. Although he might have, I dunno.



Side note on making a character feel menacing:

You don’t have to actually feel like a character is under threat to die, you just have to like the character and be convinced *they* feel threatened, and you need to want them to feel the joy of having that threat lifted.

One of the great things about the OG trilogy is that as Luke became a household name they added an in-universe reason for Vader not to kill him. So people would want to see a story play out instead of just a good guy-squash-bad guy predicable situation. Smooth.
 
There were some Base Delta Zeroes done off camera in legends

BDZs were basically nuking the planet from orbit. Wookiepedia has a good article:

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Base_Delta_Zero/Legends

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TheWorm said:
I thought that particular part was canon, hence why Grievous was coughing and holding his sides and shit in Revenge of the Sith.
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Ep. 25where Grevious was force crushed by Shaft... is listed under "Legends" on Wookieepedia.

Here's the canon version of why Grevious has the cough.

Grievous's armor[12] and synthskin gut-sack protected his remaining vital organs,[8] but his organic lungs were irritated by their implants. This gave Grievous a persistent cough[12] for the rest of his life.[3]
 
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