I’m not arguing Vader will kills zenos. I agree with that. My argument is that at some point in the battle Vader will get overwhelmed and killed the zenos.
Remember they cut power to the complex. Hudson “what do mean they cut the power their animals “. They learned to find a alternate entry point ceiling and under ground steel grates. The zenos have sense of problem solving . Vader is not as safe as you think. Only one tunnel they retreated the other tunnel they got pressure door
Vader would be fine , if Hudson can survive getting out of a xeno hive and then continue to survive while being a nervous wreck and a panic merchant pretty sure Vader will be able to handle it. Huge alien fan but they get bested in all the films by far weaker opposition than Vader.
Hmm... great question!!
Vader could beat predator blindfolded.
Hmm... great question!!
To be clear, Star Wars "Lazer shots" are not "lazers." The gun sends gas into a chamber where a Lazer heats the gas in to a plasma. That plasma is then compressed & then directed out of the barrel.
A plasma is a hot as lightning... & the Aliens biggest weakness seems to be fire, so I'm thinking it's effective... especially in light of that fact that Predator's plasma & pulse weapons are actually recognized as likely the best way to kill an alien & hold back hords of them... so I'm not sure what the difference would be between a SW's plasma weapon & those. Typical Storm trooper Blasters set to high Maximum power can blow a 2 foot hole in a thin metal door.
For sure SW's plasma weapons can kill them... the question would be "what size is necessary." The bigger the gun... the hotter & bigger the plasma will be... & the stronger the impact it will have. So a discussion regarding whether or not a star wars plasma shot can kill an alien would also have to include what size the weapon is.
To understand this better, it's probably simpler to understand that the plasma is as hot as lighting. It's amazing they can even contain a small shot in such a vessel as a pistol. It's the exact same technology with bigger/stronger guns... it just takes bigger & more hardware to contain the larger plasma. If you want to fire a larger plasma bolt with a handheld gun, you'll need extra barrels if you want to fire it again any time soon because they need time to cool. You'll need an added cooling device & extra power for that as well. You need a bigger chamber to contain & compress the larger plasma, so everything gets bigger the stronger the shot is.
Compound that by the size of Tie mounted blasters, then to ion canons mounted to star destroyers etc. At some point... & without a doubt... a SW's plasma will kill em.
I'm not trying to baffle you with technology of the SW's plasma shooting system... I'm just trying to be clear that if we're discussing this, that it's not exactly as simple as asking "Do SW's plasma shots penetrate Alien Exoskeleton." Size matters.
So if we doubt that a storm trooper rifle can't penetrate it, then Alien hasn't won yet because we can get larger hand-held guns or wall mounted guns, & you know what else they got? Fooking flame throwerz... & keep it going on up to calling in Tie fighters & targeting them from space wit teh fooking mega-ion canons. If we're still getting nowhere then shoot em wit teh fooking death star gun. I don't think anyone's gong to doubt that gets the job dun. At the very least there will be a bunch of aliens floating around in space because the planet is now dust. lol... Given their weakness to fire & predator's plasma guns though, I'm sure it would be way before that, even if not at the storm troooper rifle level.
So Vader wins in the end no matter how this discussion turns out.
That said... I'm legit curious to see what size of a gun it would take to penetrate an alien's exoskeleton.
I gotta split right now for a while though... What do you think? Predator's guns are pretty small, so I'm thinking hand held gets it dun.
That's what I was thinking, but I'm a little unclear about the later versions? I'm assuming we're talking about prime Vader vs Prime Alien so we gotta compare the best of em.
Tab & Bink mother fookahz. Make it happen.That said... I'm legit curious to see what size of a gun it would take to penetrate an alien's exoskeleton.
I gotta split right now for a while though... What do you think? Predator's guns are pretty small, so I'm thinking hand held gets it dun.
You know when i said people with more knowledge would discuss this, between posts 1101 and 1110 tell you all you need to know.
The two soldiers with the heavy guns laid surprising fire so they could escape. Remember one of guns ran out of ammo, down to one gun. They would have gotten over run if not for Ripley taking the Armoured car to save them
As for plasma not lasers. I remember R2D2 getting shot in Return of the Jedi he did show any signs or plasma melt? he experienced a short circuit. Even the princess got shot in the shoulder all it did was make a burn mark. She was wearing and some kind of plastic armor on. I sure throughout the movies other troopers got and get burn marks and fall to ground. Rouge one should have lots of scenes of troopers getting blasted.Hmm... great question!!
To be clear, Star Wars "Lazer shots" are not "lazers." The gun sends gas into a chamber where a Lazer heats the gas in to a plasma. That plasma is then compressed & then directed out of the barrel.
A plasma is a hot as lightning... & the Aliens biggest weakness seems to be fire, so I'm thinking it's effective... especially in light of that fact that Predator's plasma & pulse weapons are actually recognized as likely the best way to kill an alien & hold back hords of them... so I'm not sure what the difference would be between a SW's plasma weapon & those. Typical Storm trooper Blasters set to high Maximum power can blow a 2 foot hole in a thin metal door.
For sure SW's plasma weapons can kill them... the question would be "what size is necessary." The bigger the gun... the hotter & bigger the plasma will be... & the stronger the impact it will have. So a discussion regarding whether or not a star wars plasma shot can kill an alien would also have to include what size the weapon is.
To understand this better, it's probably simpler to understand that the plasma is as hot as lighting. It's amazing they can even contain a small shot in such a vessel as a pistol. It's the exact same technology with bigger/stronger guns... it just takes bigger & more hardware to contain the larger plasma. If you want to fire a larger plasma bolt with a handheld gun, you'll need extra barrels if you want to fire it again any time soon because they need time to cool. You'll need an added cooling device & extra power for that as well. You need a bigger chamber to contain & compress the larger plasma, so everything gets bigger the stronger the shot is.
Compound that by the size of Tie mounted blasters, then to ion canons mounted to star destroyers etc. At some point... & without a doubt... a SW's plasma will kill em.
I'm not trying to baffle you with technology of the SW's plasma shooting system... I'm just trying to be clear that if we're discussing this, that it's not exactly as simple as asking "Do SW's plasma shots penetrate Alien Exoskeleton." Size matters.
So if we doubt that a storm trooper rifle can't penetrate it, then Alien hasn't won yet because we can get larger hand-held guns or wall mounted guns, & you know what else they got? Fooking flame throwerz... & keep it going on up to calling in Tie fighters & targeting them from space wit teh fooking mega-ion canons. If we're still getting nowhere then shoot em wit teh fooking death star gun. I don't think anyone's gong to doubt that gets the job dun. At the very least there will be a bunch of aliens floating around in space because the planet is now dust. lol... Given their weakness to fire & predator's plasma guns though, I'm sure it would be way before that, even if not at the storm troooper rifle level.
So Vader wins in the end no matter how this discussion turns out.
That said... I'm legit curious to see what size of a gun it would take to penetrate an alien's exoskeleton.
I gotta split right now for a while though... What do you think? Predator's guns are pretty small, so I'm thinking hand held gets it dun.
I remember my point is if panicking marine's found a way to survive for so long I think Vader's gonna find a way
You're not wrong. The fact the Jedi didn't employ a force crush is one reason the Clone Wars took as long as it did. I have a hard time believing that a disciplined Jedi couldn't employ it without falling to the dark Side. Mace used it just fine on Grievous.It just occurred to me that Luke or Vader would kill Grievance effortlessly with no weapons in literally seconds
I don't recall, & I gotta work today so got no time to check, but I can tell you that it's irrelevant to the discussion, because all plasma gunz can be dialed down in intensity from blowing a 2 ft. hole in a metal wall, all the way down to stun... & everywhere in between. They do this to save on the gas... & obviously if they just don't want to kill someone.
I'm sure you can see why this is a null point per the above. To gauge the effectiveness of any gun, you'd have to compare it to the most devastating damage a particular gun has been seen doing, as that could be assumed to be the gun turned up to it's highest setting. The 2 ft. hole in a metal wall being the peak of the stormtrooper rifle, though I don't know how thick that wall was, but one could at least assume 1/4" thick at the minimum if it's to properly be functional as a wall.
