So u honestly think and with all respect to Fedor’s accomplishments and long reign

[MuddyFugger]

That doesn’t make sense. I’m sure it did in your head but it doesn’t make sense.

How embarrasing for you.. Try to keep up King.... we ain't marines so we can leave you behind...

 

[JosephTessaro]

Remember Brett Rogers? People figured he was a heavy handed scary guy, which he was a heavy handed dude. He got timed and put out by one of those loopy shots. That was actually a cool ko.

agreed!

 

[Ripp0ntare]

Prime Fedor wins 10/10. It's true its damn true

 

[DarthChen731]

People will shit on you for this thread but...

you might be right

 

[pick999]

Prime fedor would beat stipe and francis same night

 

[D'z]

Like Conor, Ngannou is a KO artist. Also like Conor, Ngannou is overrated. And ALSO like Conor, survive into the 3rd round, and you will win.

 

[jeff7b9]

Francis sure is scary.

But one of these men ruled the deepest Heavyweight division ever and was not beaten for a decade...

Getting to the top of the world of MMA is a tremendous achievement. Thousands of men dedicate their lives to the pursuit of that dream and only a select few ever make it to the pinnacle.

STAYING on top, for years, with a target on your back and the best fighters on the planet bringing their best to take you out.... that is a very short list who have been able to sustain that level of greatness.

 

[Sanserif]

I don’t think there was much difference between Francis in the first fight and the second. I mean, I’m sure he worked in his wrestling in the time between the two fights. But Stipe-Francis 2 went the way it did because mainly of Stipe’s decline (which was apparent throughout the Cormier fights), and not some massive improvements by Francis.

You didn't notice that ngannou didn't keep throw full power committed punches at miocic's head in the second fight unlike the first fight. Instead he patiently stalked miocic and threw partial power uncommitted shots that still hurt miocic and land frequently. The one time ngannou threw an over committed power shot was when he thought miocic was open and micoic made him pay for it with a counter shot - however that proved to be miocic 's own undoing because he in turn thought that ngannou was stunned and rushed in to take advantage and walked into a check hook that KOed him. That check hook was not a full power shot unlike most of ngannou's knock outs.

Also you didn't notice that ngannou didn't have any wrestling to speak of in his first fight but in his second fight he actually reversed miocic and took him down and miocic failed to take him down even once. He didn't just 'work' on his wrestling- he now has a competent wrestling game unlike the first fight.

I don't recall hardly anybody was saying that miocic was finished before the second fight- on the contrary the majority appeared to be saying that miociic had too much for nganou and would win. Ngannou proved insread that he had improved by leaps and bounds as I expected.

Don't buy into the lazy narrative that says ngannou is just a windmilling haymaker machine - he is a proper mma fighter now who happens to be much more powerful explosive and stronger than any other hw mma fighter in the world today.

 

[Sanserif]

Your subjective opinion on Francis's super hero strength is fine and all but reality is that you don't really know that any bit of what you said would actually be true ts.

You say if Francis had access to all the juice? What about the fact that large powerful men in that org did have access to juice? How about the fact that Schaub, who actually fought Crocop and does not need to take a guess, said he was the strongest dude that he ever grabbed on to and he was Carwins sparring partner. Does Carwin strike you as a delicate flower?

Big Nog in his prime had a chin of stone and was a submission beast. Fedor was Fedor, which translates to dangerous on the ground and the feet. Do you think that Francis will end his career with a 50/50 split on submission and knockout wins like Fedor?

I would hazard a guess that Francis will have a very explosive and short career and I wish him well. I wouldn't be so confident that he would not end up submitted by prime Nog, Knocked out by prime crocop or either outcome against prime Fedor.

I get it that he is the recent rave but lets let him do some work before we start trying to diminish old fighters to prop the guy up. Lets start by seeing if he manages to not get set on his ass by Lewis or any of the next couple challengers.

It is pointless to compare current fighter wth past fighters - like saying legendary football teams of old would beat the current champions. Different context, different nutrition, different training, different martial expectations and standards, different people involved. Just because emelianko beat cro cop doesn't mean he would have beaten miocic. Martial math only works in fans' imagination...

 

[abject]

Do u honestly think him or CC or Big Nog can stay standing against a monster like Francis Ngannou who cuts weight just to qualify and also imagine Francis has all the freedom to use any PEDS he wants in the Pride era?
Here is Fedor having trouble with a middle weight
while in her s prime

So just picture Francis around 300 pounds of pure brute power and 2 bombs ready to explode in your face, u really think Fedor would endure such an event?

Fighters get better as time progresses. Francis on the juice in pride would be likely unstoppable. The only way fedor wins is via gassing francis out then win via dec.

 

[TR1]

Fedor living rent free in TS's low IQ brain.

 

[HHJ]

Ngannou would piss blood for a week after his destruction at the hands of Fedor.

 

[jayo2k]

Sad coming from an old schooler like you. You and everyone else knows you’re literally lying and trolling.

Did he beat some cans? Yes. Did he beat more top 5 and top 10 heavyweights, without losing, than anyone in history? Yes. Obviously beating some cans doesn’t negate beating those top guys.

Yeah, Cro cop just plain dominated the UFC when he arrived, just like Nog who became champ by beating one of the worst champ (Tim Sylvia) then cleaned the division

 

[jayo2k]

Dumbest Post of the Year winner. Go watch tennis.

Say I am wrong... Typical dumb blind nutthugger... Can not come with fact... So Cro Cop and Nog both dominated the UFC HW division right...?

 

[Pastinaca1]

Bruh if a jab by ryan bader can knock out fedor, imagine what a full power over hand right by ngannou can do. Fedor got wobbled by fabio maldodowhateverthefuckhislastnameis and got slept by a tuf reject. And all the fedor fans think ngannou is somehow easy to take down lol. Look what happened to cain and stipe got out grappled in his last fight. Delusional fanboys lol

Dude are you trolling or are you dumb?

We are not talking about 2018 Fedor, we are talking about 2005 Fedor, when he was on his prime. 2005 Fedor and 2018 Fedor are two very very very different fighters.

Prime Fedor fought and beat Mirko Crocop, who was 10x a better striker than Bader and Maldonado combined.
He fought and defeated another heavy puncher in Mark Hunt.

Ngannou is a monster and would have terrorized the Pride HW division. Being said that, 2005 Fedor was a savage animal and he could very well take Ngannou down and control or submit him.

Seriously don’t compare Prime Fedor and recent Fedor.

 

[Pastinaca1]

Say I am wrong... Typical dumb blind nutthugger... Can not come with fact... So Cro Cop and Nog both dominated the UFC HW division right...?

My dear UFC nuthugger. Realize once and for all that injuries and age ruin careers. A serious injury make a fighter way worse than he was once.

Nogueira in 2008 was not the same fighter he was in 2003. In Pride he got brutalized several times by several fighters. It was obvious that at some point his body would not hold up anymore.

Crocop got surgeries on his legs (Just like Shogun), and that ruined his career.

BtW both of them were used to fight in the ring, not in the cage with different rules. Those things play a huge factor too.

You seriously think that Frank Mir would have defeated 2003 Nogueira in Pride? Lol

Take a look at how things went for Chuck Lidell when he went to Pride.

 

[empsim]

Fedor would put Francis on his back and beat the piss out of him. We saw Stipe do it for 25 minutes.

Come on, Ngannou barely had a scratch after that fight....

And we know what happened in the rematch. Acting like this would be an easy fight for Fedor is just silly.

 

[Azure]

The same people lauding Ngannou as some destroyer of worlds will be calling him a can the second he loses again.

^^So much this^^

 

[maximus__]

Do u honestly think him or CC or Big Nog can stay standing against a monster like Francis Ngannou who cuts weight just to qualify and also imagine Francis has all the freedom to use any PEDS he wants in the Pride era?
Here is Fedor having trouble with a middle weight
while in her s prime

So just picture Francis around 300 pounds of pure brute power and 2 bombs ready to explode in your face, u really think Fedor would endure such an event?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Lindland

You picked an olympic level wrestler taking down Fedor in a fight he won as proof of him sucking...
Lindland whilst not the greatest MMA fighter was an excellent Greco style wrestler.

 

[ssBaldy]

Prime kettlebell Fedor takes Ngannou down and walks away with his arm. Older brawler Fedor gets KO'd.