Crime Should these 11 year olds be charged as adults?

[scoopj]

Can't see the video but I take it they ran him over with a car.

Whom ever was driving should be tried as an adult and get life with no parole.

The rest depends on their involvement should be tried as adults .

From what I gathered, the driver was 13 and had priors.

 

[Crazy Source]

Rehabilitation until they're 18 is the answer. Upon their release, tell them it's just a prank and shoot them in the head.

In front of their families.

Gonna get real here. My father was murdered during a robbery. My family were victims, but so were the family of the murderers. Sure, there were failings as far as raising them, but I would not have wished that on the perpetrator's family members. People's hearts were broken across the board.

I want to stress that this isn't some high spade I'm playing in a card game. I don't tell this story for sympathy. I am a lucky man. I have people that love me and protect me. I have love in my heart, and I will continue to fight the hate that tries to embed itself in my soul. That is a lifelong fight.

I can say this: When hate was in my heart I was slowly dying and letting it go saved my life. Forgiveness is a gift you give yourself.

 

[Flower2dPeople]

Gonna get real here. My father was murdered during a robbery. My family were victims, but so were the family of the murderers. Sure, there were failings as far as raising them, but I would not have wished that on the perpetrator's family members. People's hearts were broken across the board.

I want to stress that this isn't some high spade I'm playing in a card game. I don't tell this story for sympathy. I am a lucky man. I have people that love me and protect me. I have love in my heart, and I will continue to fight the hate that tries to embed itself in my soul. That is a lifelong fight.

I can say this: When hate was in my heart I was slowly dying and letting it go saved my life. Forgiveness is a gift you give yourself.

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

When it comes to cold blooded murder, you really can't play around. They need help. They need to be rehabbed. But they need to pay the proper cost for ending a life. No way around it

 

[Khaosan]

Oh shit I just watched this last night, the EWU channels are fucking awesome.

 

[KnightTemplar]

Do the crime, do the time.

 

[Crazy Source]

Do the crime, do the time.

I find it amusing that you as a foreigner look in on us. You have no idea what it is like here. In my community most people have guns in their cars. Do you want that? Asking a serious question.

 

[lsa]

They killed a man

Scott D. Habermehl

He has spent too much time in the tranny thread...

 

[lsa]

Do the crime, do the time.

I cant watch the video.
But at younger age I feel at time the parents should be part of it all.
As a parent you have a great responsibility to raise good children.
Maybe you share the blame and should feel the punishment.

 

[oldshadow]

From what I gathered, the driver was 13 and had priors.

Then he should get life with no parole.

 

[Crazy Source]

When it comes to cold blooded murder, you really can't play around. They need help. They need to be rehabbed. But they need to pay the proper cost for ending a life. No way around it

I have rehab for them. All of those "kids". This is totally hypothetical.

Strip them down and tie their ankles and wrists together. Wrap their mouths with tape. Shut them up. Hypothetically take them to a bridge over water. Hypothetically toss them over.

 

[tenniswhiz]

I never understood how the 'charge them as an adult' stuff had any legal standing. Either you're an adult or you're not. The stuff government gets away with is comical. And I'm someone who thinks minors should get stiff punishments for heinous crimes, but they have to change the laws to be consistent.

Nothing about courts makes sense.

Like serving two sentences concurrently. Totally imaginary! Apply the concurrent concept to something else; ummm, Mr. at TD bank, I have decided to pay the $4,000 on my credit card concurrently with my home mortgage.

Another is sentencing. You are hereby sentenced to 10 years! But you won’t even be inside for half of that.

Then there’s civil court. You have been found not guilty but you have to face a separate civil charge? You’re not guilty of stealing their wedding cake, but we find you liable for its disappearance!
There is only one threshold of proof! They got you for doing it or they didn’t! The law is really trash on this concept.

 

[Bagatur]

It's either then or their parents. A man was brutally murdered!

 

[Takes Two To Tango]

I guess you got to make exceptions for certain cases, it's a case by case basis depending on many factors. The kids psychological makeup for one thing.

 

[scoopj]

Nothing about courts makes sense.

Like serving two sentences concurrently. Totally imaginary! Apply the concurrent concept to something else; ummm, Mr. at TD bank, I have decided to pay the $4,000 on my credit card concurrently with my home mortgage.

Another is sentencing. You are hereby sentenced to 10 years! But you won’t even be inside for half of that.

Then there’s civil court. You have been found not guilty but you have to face a separate civil charge? You’re not guilty of stealing their wedding cake, but we find you liable for its disappearance!
There is only one threshold of proof! They got you for doing it or they didn’t! The law is really trash on this concept.

Criminal threshold: guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

Civil threshold: a preponderance of the evidence.

And for obvious reasons. If someone is going to prison, let’s be certain they’re guilty mmkay?

 

[Michaelangelo]

his mom should be held accountable if anything

 

[tenniswhiz]

Criminal threshold: guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

Civil threshold: a preponderance of the evidence.

And for obvious reasons. If someone is going to prison, let’s be certain they’re guilty mmkay?

I don’t disagree about reasonable doubt.
Preponderance is absolutely ridiculous and should not exist. More than a 50% chance you stole the wedding cake and you’re in big trouble? 51% is way too low to punish someone. Nobody should held liable to such pathetic standards.

 

[scoopj]

I don’t disagree about reasonable doubt.
Preponderance is absolutely ridiculous and should not exist. More than a 50% chance you stole the wedding cake and you’re in big trouble? 51% is way too low to punish someone. Nobody should held liable to such pathetic standards.

What do you propose?

 

[A_bomb47]

Just harvest their organs. I'm sure there are some non psychopath piece of shit kids who could use them.

 

[Richmma80]

I WANT CHINESE LEVEL JUSTICE!!!

WHAT WOULD THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT DO IF THEY HAD KIDS GOING AROUND STEALING CARS AND RUNNING PEOPLE OVER??

THAT'S WHAT WE NEED HERE!!

DO THE SAME THING TO THAT MOTHER!! IN FRONT OF THE PIECE OF SHIT RIGHT BEFORE THEY DO HIM IN!!!