Crime Should these 11 year olds be charged as adults?

[Ruke Doufus]

Why?
Does the severity of a crime make a child an adult?

As you can see I never said it did. I said that some severe crimes should carry a punishment irrespective of age.

 

[Ezekiel 25:17]

I knew full well what I was doing even at 11. Parents failed here just as much if not more then the kids. Sad in general.

 

[EL CORINTHIAN]

I think they should do hard, and I mean HARD labor, through their 20s and be released at 30.

Let them miss the "fun" years of their life while hopefully being aggressively rehabilitated with hard work, perhaps developing some skills along the way.

Make them understand their actions have consequences. Next time something like that happens, they should be put on death row.

 

[Lycandroid]

They should be sent to death row and just as the poison is about to be administered unplug the machine and release the kid from the chair.

Did you learn your lesson now little Johnny ?

 

[Brom Bones]

The thing that gets me is how the families are supportive AKA gullible. No wonder these kids go out and do this shit. They don't have any accountability at all, from the uncle, mom (best friend), parents. Maybe if a parent gave him an ass kicking, the kids wouldn't be little punks.

 

[Kingz]

An 11 year old understands the finality and moral depravity of murder. Just as I did when I was 11. This isn’t stealing pencils from a classmate. Being a legal child is not a get away with murder card
And the presumption that it should be is probably what was going through the kids head when he committed this crime.

Same thing happened in Vegas where two teenagers who were legal children ran over a guy and killed him. They were bragging their age protected them. Vegas told them to fuck off and they’re being tried as adults. If you know enough about the laws to try to take advantage of them. You deserve the long ride for murder.

At the very least the sentencing limit should be far longer than juvie and then free with a clean record as an adult. That turns cold blooded murder into a game where the murderer is the clear winner.

They should certainly be tried as any murderer. We don’t need their asses back in society. Even if they could be rehabilitated, then there is a question of what is deserved.

 

[djacobox372]

I say if we're going to try children as adults when the commit "serious" crimes, we should also charge adults as children when they commit "childish" crimes.

 

[Rob Battisti]

They were all cheering the shit. I'm in a vengeful kinda mood. If people do that to someone I love, I will make it a mission to see those people .

That is, I would like to "feed" them. Make sure they are OK.

I didn’t watch the video, what did they do?

 

[Crazy Source]

I didn’t watch the video, what did they do?

Laughing about it as they hit the person.

 

[Rob Battisti]

Laughing about it as they hit the person.

Ran someone over? Fuck these kids. Kill them and their parents

 

[Crazy Source]

Ran someone over? Fuck these kids. Kill them and their parents

Pretty much. Clear some of the gene pool.

 

[Evbo]

I've watched these kids being interviewed. What stuck out to me was the little black kid (called 'Messiah'...) - in his interview it was like he was being asked what his favourite colour was by a teacher. 11 year old me would have been shitting his britches, but this little kid is just sitting there eating a candy bar like it's any other day.

How do you fix that?

FYI they didn't just flatten that poor cyclist, they were stealing cars and smashing through shopfronts, and being wretched little cunts to basically everyone, and posting it on social media

 

[ssBaldy]

I've watched these kids being interviewed. What stuck out to me was the little black kid (called 'Messiah'...) - in his interview it was like he was being asked what his favourite colour was by a teacher. 11 year old me would have been shitting his britches, but this little kid is just sitting there eating a candy bar like it's any other day.

How do you fix that?

FYI they didn't just flatten that poor cyclist, they were stealing cars and smashing through shopfronts, and being wretched little cunts to basically everyone, and posting it on social media

Because you were not a psychopath at 11 years old, and they are.

 

[Evbo]

Because you were not a psychopath at 11 years old, and they are.

Yes, that is, somewhat, what I'm getting at.

How can you fix someone who has no fear of authority or consequence? That's someone who is incapable of fulfilling even the most basic tenets of the social contract, and they will, at best, be a burden on the state for the rest of their lives. One of the Jamie Bulger murderers in the UK has cost the UK taxpayer millions due to repeated relocations and also subsequent child porn charges. Would've been easier just to dump the cunt in a hole under 10 tonnes of dirt

 

[ssBaldy]

Yes, that is, somewhat, what I'm getting at.

How can you fix someone who has no fear of authority or consequence? That's someone who is incapable of fulfilling even the most basic tenets of the social contract, and they will, at best, be a burden on the state for the rest of their lives. One of the Jamie Bulger murderers in the UK has cost the UK taxpayer millions due to repeated relocations and also subsequent child porn charges. Would've been easier just to dump the cunt in a hole under 10 tonnes of dirt

A lot easier. I think that when there is evidence of them running people over and joking about it, there is enough grounds for immediate termination. However, liberal cunts would get ballistic over it.

 

[nhbbear]

Evil little shitbags. I spent a career dealing with these types of kids and then, last year, I worked as a human trafficking advocate for a non profit until the grant funding it ran out. On tuesdays, I spent time with juveniles in a detention facility there. Some were for very serious charges.

There is something very odd about juvenile offenders that commit serious crimes. The first aspect that I have observed is their maturity level. At some points, they come off as more mature than their years and at other times, they come off as less mature than their age and more like children.

These kids need tried as adults and I will explain why.

The pre-frontal cortex does not fully form until the age range of 21-25 in an average person. The pre frontal cortex is the part of the brain that is used in higher thought process and decision making.

While this pre frontal cortex is developing, juveniles tend to use their amygdala to make decisions. The amygdala is a small area on the brain stem that is responsible for emotion. In juveniles, especially those that have experienced childhood trauma, they make rash decisions and tend to seek out risky behaviors that trigger their dopamine levels to spike.

What does this mean??? It means that kids will be thrill seekers and make bad decisions to flood their system with dopamine (the chemical that makes you feel happy and excited). Without the pre fromtal
Cortex firing on all cylinders, these kids are
Unable to think about the consequences for their actions while their brains are still developing. All they know is that they like the feel of dopamine in their system and will do whatever they can to increase that good feeling. It’s almost like being a drug addict. This is especially true for kids that have had trauma in their lives. They are extreme risk takers, do not think about consequences, and their brains are almost permanently in “fight or flight” mode.

So, I have laid out some info on how the juvenile brain works and how juvenile brains with trauma act. I am clearly saying they these kids are not operating at full brain capacity and they share some diminished responsibility because of this fact. They all have experienced some type of trauma (I will detail this afterward). It’s almost like a built in insanity defense when it comes to trying juveniles for serious crimes. Due to the seriousness of this crime and clearly, a great many more they committted for clout and could likely be tied to because they are proud of their actions and think it makes them the coolest and baddest fuckers around; so they have been documenting their actions to share with friends. Based upon the seriousness of the crime and the sheer number of crimes they committed, I think you need to try them as adults so that they get more than a few years. Charged as a juvenile will keep someone locked up until the age of 21 in most states.
For what they did, these kids need more time than that. Due to their young age, I would suggest be in juvenile detention until 21 years old and then five years in big boy prison. However, because they are so young, rehabilitation has to be of the utmost importance to these kids, otherwise, they will just be super predators when they get out of prison.

Proof that these kids experience trauma:

Messiah is living with his uncle probably because mom and dad are in prison or dead-or deemed unfit to care for him. These kids are growing up in poverty, live in or around violent neighborhoods, parents or family members involved in crime either as perpetrators or victims

 

[Richmma80]

Old white ladies can't be in charge of punishment in this country or any other. They behave just like the mom on the video

 

[oldshadow]

Because you were not a psychopath at 11 years old, and they are.

You can't fix this, rehabilitation is not going to fix it. There is nothing to do but protect normal people from them by locking them up for life.

 

[Big Nasty Edison]

Charged as adults, first degree murder, life in prison. Their brains are still developing and there's no undoing what caused their brains to think this was going to be funny.

 

[DragRacer]

Idk about killed, but find the mother that birthed these things and spay it to prevent it from dropping any more diseased pups.

Ran someone over? Fuck these kids. Kill them and their parents