Then you'll have to help me right the ship. I'm more Rove than Reagan, and always will be. These aren't seductions of charm. I'm an acrobat of Reason.
Pardon me but are you funning me because I'm Canadian? You make earnest noises about rapparoachment in the discourse with ideological tribalism and race relations, but wasn't Rove's biggest legacy his intentional use of divisiveness to win the elections he captained? Was he not the one who set the frame work for the current state of hyper-partisanism in your nation?
American politics isn't my strong point, My worry is that you're apeing a "turd blossom" as some kind of joke or you are trying to set snares to make a bigger point......but, I would a wary trust has been established thus far. So I'm going to grimly trudge on with this....
How am I to show minorities their reluctance to honestly engage issues like this with symmetrical reflexivity?
Honest question? Honest answer:
Start by severing the assumption that you seem to be attached to that such a symmetry is healthy, nessecary, or even possible for it to align to your paticular druthers.
What Culture can you name that is completely uniform as to assent to the pronouncement you are trying to shoehorn into existence? Should the entirerty of the worlds Jewry have to reflexively respond to the tribulations of Vannu, and the crimes of Pollard? The machinations of Netanyahu? The melody of Matisyahu?
Another suggestion would be to acknowledge that oftentimes the worst among us are the loudest.
Also try to understand how different communities can be conditoned to react these type of clarion calls through different historical contextes that have shaped their current realities.
I asked you this querstion:
"What about the possibility that even those in the black community who don't believe she's being unfairly treated can understand why she would think so?"
There is as basis to every ideology before it veers off into the inevitable fuckery that comes after it's been exploited by the unscrupulous or the incompetent. Hopefully people will stop clinging to causation when others cease to diminish or even deny it.
What would be the basis for a guy like Lebron lamenting racism? Someone scrawling racist shit on his
Madmick said:
Minorities who see problems with racism and exploitation of race in the white community have no issue with pointing that out, or demanding that we strive to manage this, and change. This is true whether it is white supremacists or small, unconscious biases. It's reasonable. I have spent my entire life being trained and conditioned to identify these as a white person with self-evaluation: from primary school through work training sensitivity programs, and on. I think I should be allowed to illuminate these same biases, and I believe I've exposed a serious lack of willingness to acknowledge these unconsciousness biases across the color line in this thread for no other reason than a lack of the explicit.
Okay I see, you want to use #BLM/sjw tactics on the black community as way of saying. "See? Annoying, isn't it? (As said before, I'm not underestimating your capacity)
Or perhaps you are truly aggreived at the percieved inequities in how different groups are allowed to articulate their grievieances and are demanding absolute fairness with the endpoint being a more harmonius society. You've made strenous attempts ITT, offered proof and even allowed that your arguement's delivery was'nt as effective as it could have been. You've done and said everything you've wanted to say. No one has stopped you, no one's even really attacked you.
Just because the majority doesn't agree with you doesn't mean anyone is stopping you. You are being challenged the same as anyone else gets challenged for expressing their opinion.
You've been demanding to see other peoples
papers to legitmize their stance. So to answer the question here are series
ideological checkpoints you must pass in order to break new ground with your claim:
See, I freely and wholeheartedly acknowledge the fact that among Africans and the akata in North American there is a disease of
infantilization that propagates itself through various intiatives sponsered by different actors within and outside those communites.
This disease can often manifest in a blame "Whitey mindset" that can be used to paper over the reality of our own self-sabatoge as we exult in damaging commodified social mores. Lots of us can. But the demographic doesn't get that press because it's either Jason Whitlock or Shaun King.
I can even tell you that there is a tension in those communities between those that would use that paticular mindset as the playbook for our uplift, and those that see self-analysis and reform as the only way out of the abyss.
These factions are sub-divided by education, gender, income - the samehigh yaller or darkskinned, essentially the same variables that divide everyone else in other cultures. (an example would be the clip of crazy-ass Aaron Shlossberg screaming: "Yer not a real Jew!")
At same time Capo-Culture is also a real thing in the black community....Which causes a counter-reaction to that, which in turns breeds a self-censorious fear of being called a c--n.....
These are the filters that you are trying to run your claim through.
Also, how can you expect no uniformity of response to your claim from a community that resides in a country that
still can't decide if it's previous black president was Kenyan or American, or why that even became an issue in the first place.
Madmick said:
If I must restrict myself to the explicit, then is it not reasonable to expect the same in turn? In that case it becomes incredibly difficult to make a case that Roseanne is racist. Nothing about her Valerie Jarrett Tweet involved race, did it?
Is that what brought this all about? You're pissed that "black twitter" had an opinion about what she said and now you fear this new Culture of Complaint will trickle into the career of Dan Harmon and impact his work?
Dude, I'm just as invested in finding out whats up with the Evil Morty reign over the Citadel as anyone. What you should be
really pissed about that snares like twitter exist in this world.
But seriously though, for me Rosannes Folly had racial connotations for me...merely because having lived throug the seventies, the eighties in paticuklar, the ninties all the way up to current year(!) I've been conditioned to think that when white people are making monkey jokes involving blacks or Africans, it isn't because they so incerdibly passionate about works of Hans and Margret Rey and they want me to read them too.
But do I give a shit?
Not really.
Should she have been fired? No.
Do I think she's racist? Probably.-I'm kinda racist too in ways I'm able to hide because I don't eat ambien like cashews, can reconcile my bigotry through logic, self-reflection and being raised to have a sense of shame....and most importantly, avoiding twitter. like the plague Sherdog is bad enough.
Am I'm glad she's fired? Kinda. But I know my likkle glee is the Justice of Empty Calories, the way a Wendy spicy chicken sandwich is. It tastes good, but it's pretty unhealthy.
....this is as close to an absolute response about from one member of the community you can are trying to reach. There is no uniform consensus that can be made into chewable bits.
EDIT: this bbc editor ting is turning my naps grey
