International Russia vs Ukraine Combat Megathread vol 4

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Da Speeit said:
Yes, you're very lucky that the people before and around you sacrificed a great deal for you to prosper in your country.
Brits don't drive like Americans drive and you guys have wayyy better public transit than we do.

Some mexican immigrant single mother in east LA driving a gas-guzzler with 100k miles on it is not coping well with 6 dollar gas, Mr. Altruism.
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Ask that mexican immigrant single mother if she'd rather be back driving in Mexico or the US?

Are you blaming Putin or the US for the rise in oil prices anyway?
 
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@King in the North
I mean, CLEARLY It couldn't be!
 
US pours cold water on Poland's 'untenable' offer to hand over all their MIG-29 fighter jets: Pentagon says planes at America's disposal 'raises serious concerns for the entire NATO alliance' in the face-off with Putin and there is 'no substantive rationale'

  • The Pentagon has poured cold water on Poland's offer to hand all its MiG-29 fighter jets to the US
  • The idea has been floating around for more than a week after Ukraine pleaded for more aircraft
  • But Pentagon Press Secretary John F. Kirby said on Tuesday night the deal was unworkable and would cause serious concerns for the 'entire NATO alliance'
  • The plan to deliver Soviet-era planes to Ukraine has stalled over fears it could escalate Russian aggression
  • Poland said it was placing the jets at the 'disposal of the government of the United States of America'
  • That suggests Poland is trying to push Washington to go further in backing Ukraine with weaponry
  • Biden administration officials said the Polish announcement had taken them by surprise



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10591379/Poland-gives-MIG-29-planes-hand-Ukraine.html
 
aries said:
Ask that mexican immigrant single mother if she'd rather be back driving in Mexico or the US?

Are you blaming Putin or the US for the rise in oil prices anyway?
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Most of them would rather be in Mexico.
I blame everyone for this. The US mostly.
 
cottagecheesefan said:
I agree though, that it would not make sense for Russia not to release anything (if they were to find it). Just like I thought it wouldn't make sense for them to target power plants, but the AP did report Russia targeted one and it lead to increase in radiation, which they had to retract because there was no leak at the plant and the fire was outside the perimeter of the power plant.
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I found this very strange. They attacked what appeared to be an administrative building and took it over, presumably as part of taking control of the plant? They didn't "bomb" anything on the campus that I saw at all and while the building itself was on the campus, it wasn't part of the reactors/nuclear power plant towers. I didn't even see shelling/mortars involved. Almost seemed like grenades and small arms fire exclusively. I don't know, but that was very weird and the statements about vacuum bombs when nothing of the sort appears to have been used? Very strange. Yet even after a couple/few days, they don't pull back on that stuff. Which is clearly proven wrong. They still mention both all over the MSM, here. Bombed a nuclear power plant and allegedly using vacuum bombs. Also, "intentionally killing civilians" is beaten like a drum, now. For a few days. "Attacking civilians", "deliberately targeting civilians", etc.
I mean, it's been how long now? Approaching two weeks? How many dead civilians? Less than 1,000? I don't 100% know. Horrific no matter how many, but if that is Russia trying to kill civilians over ten days to two weeks, then they're terrible at it.

And I'm not pulling for Russia, here. More the opposite but trying to remain objective. Just observing oddities on both sides regarding the information we're being given.
 
PHATV said:
I found this very strange. They attacked what appeared to be an administrative building and took it over, presumably as part of taking control of the plant? They didn't "bomb" anything on the campus that I saw at all and while the building itself was on the campus, it wasn't part of the reactors/nuclear power plant towers. I didn't even see shelling/mortars involved. Almost seemed like grenades and small arms fire exclusively. I don't know, but that was very weird and the statements about vacuum bombs when nothing of the sort appears to have been used? Very strange. Yet even after a couple/few days, they don't pull back on that stuff. Which is clearly proven wrong. They still mention both all over the MSM, here. Bombed a nuclear power plant and allegedly using vacuum bombs. Also, "intentionally killing civilians" is beaten like a drum, now. For a few days. "Attacking civilians", "deliberately targeting civilians", etc.
I mean, it's been how long now? Approaching two weeks? How many dead civilians? Less than 1,000? I don't 100% know. Horrific no matter how many, but if that is Russia trying to kill civilians over ten days to two weeks, then they're terrible at it.

And I'm not pulling for Russia, here. More the opposite but trying to remain objective. Just observing oddities on both sides regarding the information we're being given.
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PUTIN APOLOGIST!

am i doing it right?
 
Da Speeit said:
Are you capable of having a conversation without throwing a little tantrum? I just posted something someone else tweeted about something NATO tweeted. If you think it's bullshit, that's fine.
I'm a lot of things, maybe stupid, but I'd rather be stupid than be an emotional hostage to some "Stupid russian bot spaz" like you are, bud.

I'm just curious as to what it is, since you said it's "Clearly not" what many people think it is.
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As stated previously, you’re clearly mentally ill. I can only imagine the mess going on upstairs before you vomit all of it into a stream of consciousness.

I’m once again only here to let you know that the hot tweet you’ve provided (with a solid 46 retweets) doesn’t really do anything for anyone without an agenda. You can’t tell what it is. But it doesn’t look like the wiki page you’ve provided.

The more recent post where you had trouble with my name is definitely the symbol you’ve provided. Absolutely no objection there.
 
Da Speeit said:
Maybe. Maybe not. Maybe if they had clear evidence it was something other than the Black Sun they would have made a clarification
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My wife is in marketing/PR. I'm no expert, but I've picked up at least a few things over the years. One of them is that generally speaking, it's better to NOT draw attention to something if you'd prefer it not be a massive topic of conversation. EVEN if you're on the right side of it...if it's better for you that it goes away quietly, you don't do stuff to draw attention to it.

That's the thing too...just because they may not have "clear evidence" that it ISN'T the Black Sun doesn't mean that it is.
 
TUFNewb said:
If they were armed. Indiscriminately killing unarmed civilians because they might be a threat would have been met with court martial and murder charges, and that happened on more than one occasion.

Anyone doing that, anyone intentionally targeting residents with bombs and rockets, should be tried and hung in the Hauge.
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Yes I agree
But once a civilian ( no matter how morally justified) picks up arms they become a combatant..

Nobody is saying that their bad or not justified in doing so. Just it could create a bloodbath. Same as In other wars.
 
King in the North said:
As stated previously, you’re clearly mentally ill. I can only imagine the mess going on upstairs before you vomit all of it into a stream of consciousness.

I’m once again only here to let you know that the hot tweet you’ve provided (with a solid 46 retweets) doesn’t really do anything for anyone without an agenda. You can’t tell what it is. But it doesn’t look like the wiki page you’ve provided.

The more recent post where you had trouble with my name is definitely the symbol you’ve provided. Absolutely no objection there.
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I can post a more popular page tweeting if you'd like.
Yes, I'm mentally ill, and you're totally sane throwing daily tempertantrums diagnosing people in the politics section of a Karate forum, smashing the report button and whining to high heaven. Great obvservation.
 
mkess101 said:
My wife is in marketing/PR. I'm no expert, but I've picked up at least a few things over the years. One of them is that generally speaking, it's better to NOT draw attention to something if you'd prefer it not be a massive topic of conversation. EVEN if you're on the right side of it...if it's better for you that it goes away quietly, you don't do stuff to draw attention to it.

That's the thing too...just because they may not have "clear evidence" that it ISN'T the Black Sun doesn't mean that it is.
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Maybe
 
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