International Russia vs Ukraine Combat Megathread vol 4

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Da Speeit said:
That's just the cherry on top. Everything Russia does is inherently bad, but no one got this mad about Syria. Georgians have nice olive-skin.
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I really... really hate the pigment game.
 
2fast2see said:
US pours cold water on Poland's 'untenable' offer to hand over all their MIG-29 fighter jets: Pentagon says planes at America's disposal 'raises serious concerns for the entire NATO alliance' in the face-off with Putin and there is 'no substantive rationale'




    • The Pentagon has poured cold water on Poland's offer to hand all its MiG-29 fighter jets to the US



    • The idea has been floating around for more than a week after Ukraine pleaded for more aircraft



    • But Pentagon Press Secretary John F. Kirby said on Tuesday night the deal was unworkable and would cause serious concerns for the 'entire NATO alliance'



    • The plan to deliver Soviet-era planes to Ukraine has stalled over fears it could escalate Russian aggression



    • Poland said it was placing the jets at the 'disposal of the government of the United States of America'



    • That suggests Poland is trying to push Washington to go further in backing Ukraine with weaponry



    • Biden administration officials said the Polish announcement had taken them by surprise


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10591379/Poland-gives-MIG-29-planes-hand-Ukraine.html
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Lol well this NATO alliance is working out well.
 
aries said:
Lol well this NATO alliance is working out well.
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I feel like you guys are coming around to my side of the table
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Da Speeit said:
I can post a more popular page tweeting if you'd like.
Yes, I'm mentally ill, and you're totally sane throwing daily tempertantrums diagnosing people in the politics section of a Karate forum, smashing the report button and whining to high heaven. Great obvservation.
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You seem to get really upset when people acknowledge your earlier posts on the subject. You’ve been consistently wrong about this entire conflict, why on earth would I take that tweet on its face? It’s not like you have a good track record—as violence escalates and bombs land on cities.

I’ve never reported anyone on this site, you absolute dumb shit. You’re too busy spazzing out all day trying to pivot into this defense of Putin to keep up with who you’re even talking to. No one is taking you seriously.

and every day as this conflict becomes more violent you look like more of an absolute moron. Must be a tough blow for one with narcissistic personality disorder.

I’m guessing that’s why I’m dealing with your flailing around over me pointing out that an image looked different and possibly had a different explanation than the one you provided.
 
2fast2see said:
US pours cold water on Poland's 'untenable' offer to hand over all their MIG-29 fighter jets: Pentagon says planes at America's disposal 'raises serious concerns for the entire NATO alliance' in the face-off with Putin and there is 'no substantive rationale'




    • The Pentagon has poured cold water on Poland's offer to hand all its MiG-29 fighter jets to the US



    • The idea has been floating around for more than a week after Ukraine pleaded for more aircraft



    • But Pentagon Press Secretary John F. Kirby said on Tuesday night the deal was unworkable and would cause serious concerns for the 'entire NATO alliance'



    • The plan to deliver Soviet-era planes to Ukraine has stalled over fears it could escalate Russian aggression



    • Poland said it was placing the jets at the 'disposal of the government of the United States of America'



    • That suggests Poland is trying to push Washington to go further in backing Ukraine with weaponry



    • Biden administration officials said the Polish announcement had taken them by surprise


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10591379/Poland-gives-MIG-29-planes-hand-Ukraine.html
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It's not Poland "pushing" them, it's Poland passing the buck. And quite frankly, it's a smart move by them. I'm American, but I don't blame them one bit. They have Belarus on their doorstep, they don't want to be the ones directly handing planes to the Ukrainians. Basically they're just saying "Ahh...here ya go America, some of our planes are now at your Rammstein AF base in Germany. Umm...ya know...do with them what you will and stuff. But ahh...remember you said you'd backfill us with F-18's to replace these so..."

There's also logistical issues with Ukrainian pilots figuring out the instruments etc on those planes. Yeah they know how to fly Migs , but there's gonna be some differences and there will be a learning curve of some type even if those planes find their way to the Ukrainian theater.

But also...yeah. America SHOULD consider the ramifications of participating in this and giving the planes to them. Doesn't mean they shouldn't (or should), but you don't do stuff like this without taking a minute to try to see the whole chess board.
 
Captain Herb said:
This. As soon as Americans had real and truthful information about the Iraq war, they turned quickly on it. I was dead against it one month after the fall of Baghdad and no WMD were found. Other people took longer but eventually we corrected our course through the will of the people. Democracies can do that, dictatorships can't. Bush and his cabinet should all be in prison imo.
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The bloodlust after 9/11 was instatiable and those war criminals exploited it so they could destroy an entire country and then hand out lucrative corporate contracts rebuilding it. One of the darkest moments in America history. Watching the civil war that followed was truly like watching hell on earth. Under the guise of stopping al qeada they allowed for it to carve out its own state to commit mass atrocities in. The ramifications were vast and are still being felt 20 years later. We fucked up and didn't do enough to stop it. We need to not let history be repeated in 2022.
 
King in the North said:
You seem to get really upset when people acknowledge your earlier posts on the subject. You’ve been consistently wrong about this entire conflict, why on earth would I take that tweet on its face? It’s not like you have a good track record—as violence escalates and bombs land on cities.

I’ve never reported anyone on this site, you absolute dumb shit. You’re too busy spazzing out all day trying to pivot into this defense of Putin to keep up with who you’re even talking to. No one is taking you seriously.

and every day as this conflict becomes more violent you look like more of an absolute moron. Must be a tough blow for one with narcissistic personality disorder.

I’m guessing that’s why I’m dealing with your flailing around over me pointing out that an image looked different and possibly had a different explanation than the one you provided.
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I truly don’t care about “my previous posts”. I stand by everything i’ve said on the topic.

anyway, you have anything to back your assertion that “clearly isnt” a black sun?

you can stop with the tough talk too, dude, it’s supppper cringe
 
tibba said:
What's happening to the Africans and Indians over there really does reek of racism.

But I still hate the pigment game.
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I mean people’s response. If the dead bodies they saw were brown, black or Yellow they would not give a shit. The same people in this thread seething mad at Putin, who hasn’t done 1/10th of what the Bush Administration, let alone Xi, have done, couldn’t give a shit less about China, Libya (also our fault), Pakistan, etc.
 
Da Speeit said:
I truly don’t care about “my previous posts”. I stand by everything i’ve said on the topic.

anyway, you have anything to back your assertion that “clearly isnt” a black sun?

you can stop with the tough talk too, dude, it’s supppper cringe
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Your previous posts have been wrong and they should concern you because they draw your credibility into question. It makes you look like a fool.

I have told you in literally every post it doesn’t look like the image you provided. I don’t know what it is. Don’t think it’s that.

Tough talk? You’re an idiot and a classic narcissist who cannot admit he was wrong and instead has fully pivoted to a new subject. We’re all watching this in real time, you dope.
 
Da Speeit said:
I mean people’s response. If the dead bodies they saw were brown, black or Yellow they would not give a shit. The same people in this thread seething mad at Putin, who hasn’t done 1/10th of what the Bush Administration, let alone Xi, have done, couldn’t give a shit less about China, Libya (also our fault), Pakistan, etc.
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The only fair comparisons would be when an enemy of the west invaded a friend of the west.

Obviously when the west (the USA) invades, it is not going to get the same coverage in western media. Or if Russia invades Syria... is Syria considered a friend? I wasn't under the impression that it was.
 
Da Speeit said:
I mean people’s response. If the dead bodies they saw were brown, black or Yellow they would not give a shit. The same people in this thread seething mad at Putin, who hasn’t done 1/10th of what the Bush Administration, let alone Xi, have done, couldn’t give a shit less about China, Libya (also our fault), Pakistan, etc.
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No I think the vast majority would care. But the information was so controlled in Iraq. There was no " kids dieing innocents dying barrage by the media"

Plus let's be real. Without twitter and smart phones etc it was nowhere near as in your face.

It was pretty much only mainstream news which was pretty much in the pocket of the west.
 
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