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International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V8

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In conventional war NATO will steam roll Russia even if they will do mobilisation.

Ukr air defense mainly had missiles manufactured before 1992 th...!!!!
And still Russia get ass kicked with specimens suitable for museum.

U.S didn't had even sold them Stingers in nov 2021 ...
Later...
Old Stingers worked well on russia.
Old Mistrals..
Not too old Starstreaks.
Old Iglas from USSR..
 
Russia has been operating mandatory conscription in these areas for all males aged 18-65. Standard russification practice. If Ukraine does manage to retake these regions, the only people in them will be women, children and the elderly.
There won’t be any people in them since Russia is moving civilians into Russia via filtration camps.
 
I have no idea what Russia’s strategy is. A war of attrition isn’t going to be in their favor considering the amount of aid Ukraine is getting and Ukraine’s willingness to mobilize virtually all of their male population to fight.
 
If you get San Francisco companies helping in the war effort you know you done F'd up Putin.


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SAN FRANCISCO – Iceye is transferring the full capability of one synthetic aperture radar satellite collecting imagery and data over Ukraine plus access to other satellites in its constellation to the Ukrainian government under a contract with a charitable organization.

Iceye announced an agreement Aug. 18 with the Serhiy Prytula Charity Foundation, an organization established by a Ukrainian actor to provide drones, armored vehicles and humanitarian aid to the Ukrainian Armed Forces in response to the Russian invasion. In a statement, Prytula called the agreement with Iceye “a significant step in responding to the Government of Ukraine’s urgent request for critical Earth observation data and it will greatly benefit our Armed Forces.”

Iceye will continue to operate the SAR satellites and will provide the Ukrainian Armed Forces with frequently updated satellite imagery on critical locations, according to the news release.

“With this agreement, Iceye further builds on its efforts to provide objective data and technological support to Ukraine,” Iceye CEO Rafal Modrzewski said in a statement. “We firmly believe SAR technology and its capabilities will continue to add significant value to the Government of Ukraine, now enabled by the work of the Serhiy Prytula Charity Foundation.”

SAR satellites, which gather imagery during the day, at night and in all weather conditions, have been a particularly valuable tool in a war that began in Eastern Europe in February.

Iceye has launched 21 satellites since the company was founded in 2014. Not all of the spacecraft remain in operation, but the company doesn’t disclose exactly which satellites are still gathering data. Still, Iceye claims to operate the world’s largest constellation of SAR satellites.

Iceye customers include organizations like the Ukrainian government seeking access to the full capability of a SAR satellite and customers who prefer to send tasking orders to be filled by any satellite in Iceye’s constellation.

“It is very dependent on the requirements of the particular country,” Pekka Laurila, Iceye chief strategy officer, told SpaceNews by email. “Sovereign control of satellites and their operations can be very meaningful for some governments, but there are differences. Others prefer to ensure effectiveness through managed spacecraft operations together with Iceye. Ultimately, what practically all share is a need is having reliable access to information exactly when they need it.”

In early March, Iceye announced on Twitter that the company was “saddened by the war in Ukraine” and “cooperating with the relevant government authorities” to provide assistance."

https://spacenews.com/iceye-ukraine-sar/
 
Unlike Putin Erdogan did see what is happening to the Nuclear power plant and understands the catastrophic danger it posses.

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Russia-Ukraine live news: Erdogan warns of ‘another Chernobyl’
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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan and UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres shake hands after a joint news conference following their meeting in Lviv, Ukraine August 18, 2022 [Gleb Garanich/Reuters]
By Usaid Siddiqui and Linah Alsaafin
Published On 18 Aug 202218 Aug 2022
  • Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan says his country was worried of “another Chernobyl”, amid ongoing fighting at the Zaporizhzhia power plant in Ukraine during a trilateral meeting on Thursday with Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and UN chief Antonio Guterres
  • Zelenskyy has urged the United Nations to “ensure” the security of Europe’s largest nuclear power plant which is currently under Russian control."
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/live...t-updates-casualties-renewed-shelling-kharkiv

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LVIV, Ukraine -- Turkey's president and the U.N. chief met with Ukrainian President Volodymr Zelenskyy on Thursday in a high-stakes bid to ratchet down a war raging for nearly six months, boost desperately needed grain exports and secure Europe's biggest nuclear power plant. But little progress was reported.

The gathering, held far from the front lines in the western Ukrainian city of Lviv, near the Polish border, marked the first visit to Ukraine by Turkey's Recep Tayyip Erdogan since the outbreak of the war, and the second by U.N. Secretary-General António Guterres.

Erdogan has positioned himself as a go-between in efforts to stop the fighting. While Turkey is a member of NATO — which backs Ukraine in the war — its wobbly economy is reliant on Russia for trade, and it has tried to steer a middle course between the two combatants.

At the meetings, Turkey agreed to help rebuild Ukraine's infrastructure, including roads and bridges, and Zelenskyy asked Guterres to seek U.N. access to Ukrainian citizens deported to Russia, according to the Ukrainian president's website. Zelenskyy also requested U.N. help in freeing captured Ukrainian soldiers and medics.

On the battlefield, meanwhile, at least 17 people were killed and 42 wounded in heavy Russian missile strikes on Ukraine’s Kharkiv region on Wednesday night and Thursday morning, Ukrainian authorities said."
 
I guess Turkey looking at that post war money in rebuilding. They know what billions and billions and billions look like for sure.

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Turkey and Ukraine have signed a document agreeing to help rebuild Ukraine’s infrastructure, including roads and bridges.

The document was signed by Minister of Infrastructure of Ukraine Oleksandr Kubrakov and Minister of Trade of the Republic of Turkey Mehmet Mus.

The bridge connecting Bucha and Irpin destroyed at the beginning of the Russian invasion is considered to be the first major piece of infrastructure earmarked to be restored as part of the agreement."
 
I guess Turkey looking at that post war money in rebuilding. They know what billions and billions and billions look like for sure.

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Turkey and Ukraine have signed a document agreeing to help rebuild Ukraine’s infrastructure, including roads and bridges.

The document was signed by Minister of Infrastructure of Ukraine Oleksandr Kubrakov and Minister of Trade of the Republic of Turkey Mehmet Mus.

The bridge connecting Bucha and Irpin destroyed at the beginning of the Russian invasion is considered to be the first major piece of infrastructure earmarked to be restored as part of the agreement."

Besides the Military Industrial Complex, Turkey has probably benefited the most out of this war at this point in time.

Erdogan is in "I'ma get mine" mode...
 
Besides the Military Industrial Complex, Turkey has probably benefited the most out of this war at this point in time.

Erdogan is in "I'ma get mine" mode...

Can't even imagine how happy the MIC is right now. First Biden fucks them by pulling out of Afghanistan and then out of nowhere Putin just hands them the gift of life by starting a war no one expected him to start.
 
Not likely.
Inflation is huge and constant during years and maybe Turkey just will be next on natural gas needle...

@Zinger
Doesn't looks scary or helpless while a bit smell of bloodbath maybe up coming.
Today I had sutff when they escorted approx 50 very heavy trailer trucks...and feeling on road was like...it is damn heavy payload in each.

Ofc also a bit surprising were numbers on trucks ( cos civ heavy duty haulers for very heavy load ).
Israel, U.K and Denmark plus Spain and Portugal...

A bit like sense before storm.
Trailers for sure had payload between 52 and maybe approx 80 metric tons on each....

Delivery...
 
Can't even imagine how happy the MIC is right now. First Biden fucks them by pulling out of Afghanistan and then out of nowhere Putin just hands them the gift of life by starting a war no one expected him to start.
What stuff Turkey might benefit?

Blackmail Finaland and Sweden with NATO application?
It is IMHO useless cos France are pussies frog eaters if be honest. Germany drug addict on natural gas needle, Hungary pro kremlin oriented....
No one had took these countries as real possible support for NATO if shit will happen...
Sorry for offense, they are pussies since 2008 th and ALWAYS will be burden to NATO....
 
What stuff Turkey might benefit?

Blackmail Finaland and Sweden with NATO application?
It is IMHO useless cos France are pussies frog eaters if be honest. Germany drug addict on natural gas needle, Hungary pro kremlin oriented....
No one had took these countries as real possible support for NATO if shit will happen...
Sorry for offense, they are pussies since 2008 th and ALWAYS will be burden to NATO....

Did you mean to quote someone else? I was talking about the US military industrial complex. I'm not familiar with Turkey and how they might benefit from all of this.
 
If you are even NATO country...
5 th article is bireucratic piece of real shit.
Some countries will help you in 1-2-4-8 hours...
Some will decide what to do, IMHO even if their own country will be invaded.
Germany, France and Hungary are unusable burden like death anchor for NATO and EU.
 
Did you mean to quote someone else? I was talking about the US military industrial complex. I'm not familiar with Turkey and how they might benefit from all of this.
Cheap oil from Russia.
Maybe some cheaper ...food.
Turkey doesn't have good harvest prognosis...
 
The stamp/envelope
full
collection pretty much done. I am donating part of it including the one signed by the artist who was made famous by it. I don't know how much it will raise but hopefully a lot.

It including the done envelope an the newest stamp an envelope of Ukrainian tractor towing the Russian tank. @idrankyourbeer .

Local polish deli has donated 70,000 dollars or more of baby wipes, clothing, cleaning supplies, an baby food. Hopefully this can add to it.
 
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I have no idea what Russia’s strategy is. A war of attrition isn’t going to be in their favor considering the amount of aid Ukraine is getting and Ukraine’s willingness to mobilize virtually all of their male population to fight.

No idea. I think a fair assessment was that their army was not ready for prime time and this was hidden from leadership due to corruption, but that said, there seems to be no strategy right now other than to dump cartoonish amounts of artillery shells on the Ukrainian positions and blow things up with missiles. If this decision paralysis continues, they will likely lose as eventually Ukraine will get it together. I found the translated bits of this helpful:



At the same time, as @SandisLL has noted, the Russian special forces seem really good, while the regular troops are sub par. 2014 seizure of Crimea was executed brilliantly. I think Sandis has mentioned the December 1979 Kabul operation being carried out flawlessly- but then the regular Soviet troops came in and messed up. Seems to be a pattern.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Storm-333

This seems to have carried forward to the Ukraine war. Whoever seized the bridges, railroad junctions, etc that let Russian troops surge out of Crimea in the first days of the war did a brilliant job, these must have been very well trained. But the regular troops (even Filyatov, the paratooper above) seem to be extremely neglected.
 
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Kabul doesn't have such mental value in Afganistsn like Moscow or Kiev might have for Russia or Ukr.
For them it is big market place.
God is everywhere and they does have damn a lot of natural and further modified natural caves and basements etc stuff...plus it is large country with mountains and valleys...with low population density.
It is insanely hard to inspect at least a bit of them even if you have last gen equipment.....

1979 was...surprisingly easy in Kabul ( Cabul ) and later...
 
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