International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V8

[Anewt]

https://kyivindependent.com/investi...ters-speak-out-against-leaderships-misconduct

In early May, a lieutenant from Brazil arrived in Ukraine to join the International Legion following President Volodymyr Zelensky’s call to “citizens of the world” to come and help defend Ukraine.

He thought his vast experience in the Brazilian army had prepared him for pretty much any task.

Yet he was neither ready to carry out suicide missions by order of his command, nor to tolerate orders to loot and steal.

As a platoon commander of the International Legion, he was ordered to do just that.


Sounds delightful

Since the start of the year, the man who calls himself Sasha Kuchynsky has allegedly gone from a criminal suspect on bail to a free man and de-facto commander in a high-profile Ukrainian military unit.

 

[Anewt]

No wonder foreigners are completely fucked when caught.

" Locals saw how we loaded the furniture which made me very uncomfortable. It felt like we were robbing them. I didn’t come to Ukraine for this,” a testimony of a Columbian soldier reads.

“There were local residents near the shopping mall, one of whom, seeing this, shouted insults, and the others looked at us with reproach and condemnation. I don't know whether it was legal or not but I felt ashamed to carry out the order of Sasha Kuchynsky and take away furniture and valuables from stores during hostilities and in front of local residents who suffered from the war,” a French legionnaire wrote in his statement.

 

[Denter]

Seems unnecessarily cruel and may force many to side with Russia by default. If you're a tratior for taking their food then might as well go all in

Yeah I'm just saying it makes sense. Ethnic cleansing in these situations is actually the most effective way to have long term peace. This has been shown in many case studies in the past. It may be immoral but it isn't pointless.

 

[Anewt]

According to the legionnaires, they regularly witnessed what they believe were suspicious arms movements.

“The car is coming, the cars going, the boxes of weapons coming, the boxes of weapons going,” one of the American soldiers said.

Despite the legion’s armory rooms being loaded with all sorts of heavy weaponry and ammunition, the soldiers say they often didn’t end up in their hands.

“During my stay in Sievierodonetsk, a civilian vehicle painted in camouflage containing thermal imagers arrived,” a Columbian soldier wrote in his testimony. “They were not distributed among the soldiers due to their alleged absence. Meanwhile, Sasha Kuchynsky proposed to the military personnel of the International Legion to buy these thermal imagers for $300.”

“I think, Sasha Kuchynsky artificially created the impression of a shortage of some ammunition to illegally enrich himself by providing it to fighters (for money) as if from himself,“ another fighter from Columbia wrote in his testimony.

 

[Cole train]

https://kyivindependent.com/investi...ters-speak-out-against-leaderships-misconduct

In early May, a lieutenant from Brazil arrived in Ukraine to join the International Legion following President Volodymyr Zelensky’s call to “citizens of the world” to come and help defend Ukraine.

He thought his vast experience in the Brazilian army had prepared him for pretty much any task.

Yet he was neither ready to carry out suicide missions by order of his command, nor to tolerate orders to loot and steal.

As a platoon commander of the International Legion, he was ordered to do just that.


Sounds delightful

Since the start of the year, the man who calls himself Sasha Kuchynsky has allegedly gone from a criminal suspect on bail to a free man and de-facto commander in a high-profile Ukrainian military unit.

Yeah it was said few months back to be careful if you volunteer

2 guys from my country were wounded and were abandoned by ukrainians, they had 3 volunteer with them who took abandoned civilian car and drove to ukr lines, lots of cannon foddering "rather foreigner dies than ukrainian" according to rumours then

But this was around june so no clue wtf situation is now

 

[PEB]

LVIV, Ukraine (AP) — As a potential power broker, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan will use his first visit to Ukraine since the war started nearly six months ago to seek ways to expand the export of grain from Europe’s breadbasket to the world’s needy while U.N. Secretary-General António Guterres will focus on containing the volatile situation at a Russian-occupied nuclear power plant.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy is hosting both men far away from the front lines, in the western city of Lviv, where diplomatic efforts to help end the war will also be on the agenda. Ukrainian authorities said that Russian forces killed at least seven in more shelling in and around Ukraine’s second-largest city Kharkiv.

Erdogan, whose nation is a member of NATO which backs Ukraine in the war, also oversees a wobbly economy that has been increasingly reliant on Russia for trade. That backdrop turns Thursday’s meetings in Lviv into a walk on a diplomatic tightrope. Earlier this month, the Turkish leader met on the same issues with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

 

[Zinger]

"I got turned back at the border. They didn't let me enter Romania. The border guards put this stamp in my passport. (Russian warship, fuck you).

I'm going back to Kiev again, I don't know if I should laugh or cry. No matter what happens, I'm very sad. Staying here is becoming tough , but at the same time I don't want to leave either.

 

[Anewt]

"I got turned back at the border. They didn't let me enter Romania. The border guards put this stamp in my passport. (Russian warship, fuck you).

I'm going back to Kiev again, I don't know if I should laugh or cry. No matter what happens, I'm very sad. Staying here is becoming tough , but at the same time I don't want to leave either.

Is that a insult to the guy who's passport it was? did Romanian border guards do it or Ukraine?

I'm a bit confused

 

[Zinger]

Is that a insult to the guy who's passport it was? did Romanian border guards do it or Ukraine?

I'm a bit confused

I assume it was the Ukrainians, since the stamp is in Ukrainian language.

I wonder if this has become a thing, or some guys decided to fuck around on their own.

 

[lsa]

I assume it was the Ukrainians, since the stamp is in Ukrainian language.

I wonder if this has become a thing, or some guys decided to fuck around on their own.

LOL thats just wrong on so many levels.
I should not laugh. But the child in me does.

 

[PEB]

About time some speak up.
"
Nineteen retired US generals and former officials have called on the Biden administration to step up the pace of arms supplies to Ukraine or run the risk of “unintentionally seizing defeat from the jaws of victory”.

They said that the US was providing enough weaponry to ensure a stalemate but not sufficient to help Ukraine recapture territory seized by Russia. The former officers, diplomats and other officials argue the administration is inhibited by fear of triggering a Russian escalation, possibly involving nuclear weapons – but they argue that failure to defeat Vladimir Putin in Ukraine increases the danger of a confrontation with Moscow later “on less favourable grounds”.

The pace of arms deliveries to Ukraine has been a repeated source of friction between Washington and Kyiv, as well as some eastern European allies. So far, the US has given Ukraine nearly $10bn in military aid under the Biden administration, including rocket launchers, but has stopped short of providing longer-range missiles, fixed-wing aircraft and certain armed drones."

 

[PEB]

"I got turned back at the border. They didn't let me enter Romania. The border guards put this stamp in my passport. (Russian warship, fuck you).

I'm going back to Kiev again, I don't know if I should laugh or cry. No matter what happens, I'm very sad. Staying here is becoming tough , but at the same time I don't want to leave either.

Russian Federation not real popular right now sorry to hear.

 

[SandisLL]

Kremlin's propaganda is doing it's best in order to cahange the attidudes of the populations to stop further military equipment to be sent to Ukraine.
They does know that casuals are thinking in short term and living in dreams.
Classic dream maye is that if old stuff had been kept in warehouse they had get something maybe even in their own pockets. Delusion.

 

[Anewt]

Kremlin's propaganda is doing it's best in order to cahange the attidudes of the populations to stop further military equipment to be sent to Ukraine.
They does know that casuals are thinking in short term and living in dreams.
Classic dream maye is that if old stuff had been kept in warehouse they had get something maybe even in their own pockets. Delusion.

The Kyiv independent is Kremlin propaganda now?

 

[PEB]

 

[PEB]

A Russian paratrooper who fought in Ukraine says troops are deliberately shooting themselves in the leg to escape the war and get a $50,000 payout.

Pavel Filatyev, 33, published a 141-page memoir outlining his experience on the front lines of the Ukraine war on the Russian social-media platform VKontakte two weeks ago, The Guardian reported. Insider has seen the memoir.

The memoir — titled "ZOV" after the Russian pro-war symbol — is the most detailed account of a Russian soldier fighting in Ukraine so far.

It describes how some Russian soldiers are facing so much chaos, hunger, and destruction that they are looking for any way out.

"Someone began to shoot himself in the limbs ... to get 3 million rubles and get out of this hell," Filatyev wrote in his memoir.

His account mirrored similar reports from the New York Post and MailOnline earlier this year, which said Russian soldiers were telling family members that their comrades were shooting themselves in the leg in order to go home.

A Reuters report published in July confirmed that Russian President Vladimir Putin had announced that injured soldiers could claim compensation of 3 million roubles, the equivalent to what the average Russian worker would earn in four years.

Filatyev was a member of the 56th Guards air assault regiment based in Crimea, the peninsula which Russia seized from Ukraine in 2014, the memoir said. Paratroopers are widely considered the elite of the Russian army, The Guardian reported.

https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-troops-in-ukraine-shooting-themselves-avoid-war-memoir-2022-8

 

[SandisLL]

Kremlin's propaganda is smart and not always direct....
Exists also stuff called indirect "internal manipulation".

For showcase these examples and how ppl were fooled...

1. Brexit.
EU had been blamed for immigrants and umemployment in U.K by some brexit advocates.
Real outcome: 1. Unemployment is higher than before brexit...esp graduates unemployment..
2. Seasonal workers still are arriwing...
Arriwed even when brits had to sit in lockdown....
3. Skilled workers with good exp and education anyway are getting permits...
4. Businessmans from aboard...the same...nothing changed...

Brexit had lowered only some small niche of immigrants influx: not too important %...
Above seasonal picker and below certain salary level for permanent woker....
Nothing much...btw...


& France.
Some loudmouths are accusing EU cos immigrants while France does have these mainly from North Africa...
They doesn't have huge immigrants fom EU influx cos ....language barrier....and EU citzens does have a lot of better opportunities...

 

[SandisLL]

Next propaganda in west example is ....against German PM.
1. He is blamed for high natural gas prices.
While Gerhard and Angela had placed Germany on Russia's natural gas needle...+ greens then helped a lot.
+ Nuclear power plants " bad "...
+ local coal " bad "...

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While now all this shit should ate ...current PM!
Gerhard btw later get high post in Gazprom!

2.
Immirgants...

It wasn't current PM!
Angela !!!! get Germany reputation " country with generous benefits " and then immigrants started to move in.
Legal...and illegal...in huge bunches...

 

[SandisLL]

Regards how " good " neighbour Belarus is...
During last year Lithuanian border guards had prevented illegal border crossing from Belarus in more than 10000 cases...
Airspace violation cases from Belarus with drones aporox 29-30 cases in 2022 th...
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It might look laughable just cos " some small country ".
While if you get in...you have high chances to get till...the same Lisbon and Paris...relatively easily...

 

[Rholk]

less than one year ago the west was afraid that Russia could overrun the better part of Europe in a conventional war.
The progress made in last month:

Spoiler

possible first video of Excalibur:

Their precision is very precise as Goldberg would say