International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V7

[Anewt]

Russia is defaulting on its debt and will be declared Bankrupt in a few hours. They already defaulted a month ago, but now the 30 day grace period to pay is up, and since they must pay in dollars which they cannot get due to sanctions, they cannot do so.
Noone really knows exactly what will happen since the situation is pretty unique. They wont be able to take international loans for one -but due to sanctions they could not do so previously either. Ill guess we will see in the coming days.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-61929926.amp

100 million is peanuts to Russia.

Russia is on the brink of its first debt default since 1998 as the Sunday deadline to make a $100m interest payment seems certain to be missed.

Russia has the money and is willing to pay, but sanctions make it impossible to get the payments to international creditors.

The Kremlin has been determined to avoid a first default since 1998, and a major blow to the nation's prestige.

The Russian finance minister branded the situation "a farce".
And the Credit Derivatives Determinations Committee, which determines whether payments have been missed and investors can claim on insurance-like contracts called Credit Default Swaps, has already ruled that Russia failed to pay, after it didn't pay around $2m interest due on a late payment in May.

Defaulting nations usually find it impossible to borrow any more money, but Russia is already effectively barred from borrowing in Western markets by sanctions.

In any case, it is reportedly earning around a billion dollars a day from fossil fuel exports, and Siluanov said in April the country has no plans to borrow more

 

[Blayt7hh]

So, one thing that’s 100% clear is that Ukraine fucked up big time when they orchestrated the Bucha massacre (as the Telegraph pointed out, most bodies were full of pieces of artillery shells, therefore people were most likely killed by artillery and not executed).
Russians actions prior to Bucha indicated that they wanted to return the taken cities back to Ukraine once peace treaty is signed therefore flags kept on the poles. But as soon as Russians left Kiev region and Bucha happened, the actions radically changed - none of the currently taken territory will be given back to Ukraine

Lol. Russia was always going to keep what land they wanted. Why else would they have invaded? Please don’t tell me it was about Nazis

 

[Blayt7hh]

Cant the cia poison zelesky and end this was already? The world economy would thank and nobody ever gave a fuck about Ukraine until 2022

Yeah fuck those 40 million people and their freedom! My gas prices are moderately high!

 

[SandisLL]

They looks that does have long term aim to create superempire from Lisbon till...yeah.

This and fact that they are filling out countries with refugees, thretating us with nukes and violating our airspace and....blackmailing with energy supplies etc xxx things is reson why europe is helping ukraine.
No one anymore cares nor about rouble exchange rate nor stuff told by Russia or Ukraine ....

 

[SandisLL]

If about Russia's default 1998....
Ir wasn't cos bad west or Yeltszin.
Majority of ppl in Russia acknowldege that is was cos...
private bankers due to lack of experience to hedge risks and diversify risks had failed with asian stocks and world scale forex market risks....

While with West russia increased and enchanced trade in period 1993-2007 on yearly basis....

 

[SandisLL]

BTW interesting that in reality....in relationships with Baltic countries governments with high nationalists impact were good for Russia: trading had increased each year, no one cared about " bad monuments " ..
Now they mainly does have centrists...and...vuala...monuments are bad!
Green dreamers in some municipalities might deNazify them better than any tank armada.

 

[Zinger]

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[SandisLL]

Btw sadly some old nationalists passed in another world ....
One from them for example like westerners, had celebrated Hitler's defeat just in different day: 08.V.
Not 09.V.

And Russia then was ruled by Boris.
This nationalist ordered to repair monument, the same stuff today centrists in municipality want to dismantle...

 

[SandisLL]

Now if about bullying and blackmail result.
Looks that most likely Germany will provide Ukr 1000m EUR worth grant and lurk how to get credits for them too.+ now...in reality provide more weapons.
U.K as bare minimum looks that will get ~ 525 m credit for Ukr...

 

[Anewt]

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2...view-from-voice-of-paddington-to-global-giant

Interesting read. Few things in there that are interesting in regards to how well the propaganda has worked

He seemed sharp-witted – when offered evacuation by the US government, he apparently replied: “I need ammunition, not a ride”, though the US authorities denied that such a conversation took place. He seem determined. And he seemed to realise that if his country were to have a chance of defending itself, he needed to rally international support as much through emotional public appeals as by discreet diplomacy.

What is evident, though, is that Zelenskiy’s political rise owed a great deal to the sense of despair felt by most Ukrainians at their corrupt political elite. Presidents came and went but, regardless of whether they were pro- or anti-Russian, they all tended to be backed by self-interested oligarchs and advised by a self-enriching band of cronies. Despite presenting himself as a clean break from the double-dealing status quo, Zelenskiy himself is indebted to Ihor Kolomoisky, the Ukranian-Cypriot-Israeli billionaire who controls the 1+1 TV channel and supported Zelenskiy’s presidential campaign. Kolomoisky, who denies any wrongdoing, has been banned from the US on suspicion of “significant corruption”.


And Zelenskiy is surrounded by his own band of cronies, one of whom, a former economics minister, was recorded telling a group of journalists how his boss had a “fog in his head” when it came to economic matters. It’s also said that Zelenskiy once made light of Ukrainian protesters in the Donbas.

 

[PEB]

 

[SandisLL]

Some brainwashed nerd here IMHO never will get that there isn't question about just some Ukraine....
Zelensky is dude talking how much $ they might need to restore Ukraine!!!!
To talk about this Today! Imagine sese of reality here?
Mental clinic candidates IMHO and not only just he!

Russian politics too, if someone is able to read in Russian and see their media....
It is mental clinic nothing less + btw ....IMHO 50% inhabitants in mental clinics does have more sense of reality!!!!DAMN!!!

Sorry, I think if both countries had been ruled by bunch with mental health clinics patients...
We might negotiated easier. ...
It is HELL .

 

[deadon]

 

[Videer]

This is still retarded as fuck and both sides keep doing it.

 

[Rob Battisti]

When Russia wins, and the 50 Billion we sent to have laundered, sorry used for military purposes, is gone — will we finally be able to say “hey, here is this domestic education, energy, mental health, infrastructure or anything else plan etc. that costs 50 billion let’s do it!” Or will we say, no because it’s too expensive?

 

[Rholk]

Oh wow CIA directing intelligence flow to an ally in said ally's capital.
You really uncovered something there.
My god man they've been training ukrainians since 2014-ish
https://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-se...v-prepare-for-russian-invasion-090052743.html

Did you ever find those US biolabs tho?

 

[SandisLL]

NATO should fultfill by 100% all duties to ALL FULL NATO member countries with 0 discrimination and being really. pussy.

Otherwise I don't have explanation why this stuff should exist .....



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[deadon]

When Russia wins, and the 50 Billion we sent to have laundered, sorry used for military purposes, is gone — will we finally be able to say “hey, here is this domestic education, energy, mental health, infrastructure or anything else plan etc. that costs 50 billion let’s do it!” Or will we say, no because it’s too expensive?

We got em now! They just banned Russian gold. Hahaha.

 

[SandisLL]

Oh wow CIA directing intelligence flow to an ally in said ally's capital.
You really uncovered something there.
My god man they've been training ukrainians since 2014-ish
https://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-se...v-prepare-for-russian-invasion-090052743.html

Did you ever find those US biolabs tho?

Sure, evertone had find out top secret level ultra top notch superlabs in country well known in scientific circles worlwide during 30 years because skilled specs emigration to west.
Best story is difficult to create....

 

[hitcher]

Oh wow CIA directing intelligence flow to an ally in said ally's capital.
You really uncovered something there.
My god man they've been training ukrainians since 2014-ish
https://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-se...v-prepare-for-russian-invasion-090052743.html

Did you ever find those US biolabs tho?

LOL, you guys are delusional.
Of course you are a dishonest shill. You have been referred to the US embassys homepage, which details the different biolabs paid for by the US. Surely you are going to ignore this, much like you ignored what Genscher said about NATO expansion. Was bringt es dir zu lügen? Nur weil du im Internet Leute blenden möchtest?

Edit: Also, your link looks at US Support in the past and not what is going on currently. Nice try with your deflection.