Russia/Ukraine Megathread V6

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deadon said:
I'm trying to understand why putin will kill so many without a thought but you say he's a cuck and won't do shit against Americans in theater. He's already been charged with war crimes right?

We'll see what happens. First we need nato and now we don't eh?
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He can be both a coward and a war criminal. Often cowards target civilians rather than fight the enemy head on, which is exactly what the cowardly pussies are doing right now.

Putin is a cuck, we're giving the the uaf the ability to slaughter thousands of his servicemen and he takes it... he knows they can't do shit about it other than start a war that kills him and his family. We called their bluff. They're not that tough or scary or hard. They're just panicked despots.

Stop with the strawman shit. I never said anything about needing or not needing nato.
 
nostradumbass said:
How did I know your "source" was democrat party propaganda from the fucking washington post and not the actual interview?

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You're so lazy.

CPAC address:

- start of the Ukraine discussion
- "Of course [Putin] is smart... NATO and Europe offer no repercussions whatsoever (LOL) - they're not smart - they're the opposite of smart... sanction that's a pretty weak statement... Of course Putin is smart... I spent a lot of time with Putin, I get along with him... this is the only attack in history where the further he goes and the bigger it gets, the more money he gets (LOL)... Russia is making more money than they ever dreamt possible..."

This was supposed to be the glossing over of his appearance on the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show:

- "There was a television screen and I said "this is genius". Putin declares a big portion of Ukraine as independent, oh it's wonderful, so Putin is now saying it's independent, a large section of Ukraine. I said "How smart is that?" He's going to go in as a peacekeeper, that's the strongest peace force I've ever seen, there were more army tanks I've ever seen, they're going to keep peace all right. But think of it, here's a guy that's very savvy, I know him very well... but here's a guy that says I'm going to declare a big portion of Ukraine independent, he used the word independent, and we're going to go in and help keep peace. You've got to say that's pretty savvy."

Better tag @Darkballs in I guess.
 
deadon said:
I'm trying to understand why putin will kill so many without a thought but you say he's a cuck and won't do shit against Americans in theater. He's already been charged with war crimes right?

We'll see what happens. First we need nato and now we don't eh? Also why did the WH walk back what he said? I mean Biden is the tough guy and we have the right so whats up?
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If you haven't noticed, the Russian army has been shown to be lackluster at best. Pres. Putin was trying to beat Ukraine to its knees, but Ukraine kept finding their legs and standing strong. For Putin? That's not a good look.

The WH probably walked back what he said so people wouldn't spazz and rage "OMG! WE HAVE TROOPS IN UKRAINE!" He was probably forward thinking in the effect, we WILL have troops in Ukraine to help rebuild.

If it looks like a nothingburger and smells like a nothingburger...
 
deadon said:
Also why did the WH walk back what he said? I mean Biden is the tough guy and we have the right so whats up?
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Because he is an old man with a stutter who has made a career of saying dumb shit he doesn't mean that needs to be walked back. Direct military intervention has been off the table since Sputnik I was launched. An 80 year old having a brain fart doesn't change that.
 
Siver! said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-60856533?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=623e86c75fbc655faa01ef05&WATCH: Fact-checking Putin's false 'Nazi' claims&2022-03-26T03:30:08.149Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:c5cd21e3-bc87-4b8e-9d45-d9f8c5f8bbbf&pinned_post_asset_id=623e86c75fbc655faa01ef05&pinned_post_type=share

Here's a great breakdown about how the idea of 'Nazis' in Ukraine is grossly overstated - and why: because what once united Russians in history was nazis. Pretend there's a serious nazi problem in Ukraine now, unify the people again.
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The Russians are the real "Nazis". They are an all controlling fascist regime that uses ethnic popularism as an excuse to conquer and subjugate their neighbours. It doesn't get any more Nazi than that. I give zero fucks about LARP'ing militiamen.
 
TUFNewb said:
The Russian are the real "Nazis". They are an all controlling fascist regime that uses ethnic popularism as an excuse to conquer and subjugate their neighbours. It doesn't get any more Nazi than that.
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Abso-fuckin'-lutely.

Even the contrarians are bailing on the 'Nazi' element and labelling it silly, but the Russians are still pretending it's a real problem.
 
7even said:
Could the US get in trouble with Americans fighting in direct combat as PMCs? Even if they weren’t paid by the US government?
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I'm pretty sure that's what happened in the Donbas. Russia just denied they were involved. Even after their system downed a commercial airliner.
 
Siver! said:
You're so lazy.

CPAC address:

- start of the Ukraine discussion
- "Of course [Putin] is smart... NATO and Europe offer no repercussions whatsoever (LOL) - they're not smart - they're the opposite of smart... sanction that's a pretty weak statement... Of course Putin is smart... I spent a lot of time with Putin, I get along with him... this is the only attack in history where the further he goes and the bigger it gets, the more money he gets (LOL)... Russia is making more money than they ever dreamt possible..."

This was supposed to be the glossing over of his appearance on the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show:

- "There was a television screen and I said "this is genius". Putin declares a big portion of Ukraine as independent, oh it's wonderful, so Putin is now saying it's independent, a large section of Ukraine. I said "How smart is that?" He's going to go in as a peacekeeper, that's the strongest peace force I've ever seen, there were more army tanks I've ever seen, they're going to keep peace all right. But think of it, here's a guy that's very savvy, I know him very well... but here's a guy that says I'm going to declare a big portion of Ukraine independent, he used the word independent, and we're going to go in and help keep peace. You've got to say that's pretty savvy."
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Big shock, again, that's not the interview, but it's entertaining watching how much crap you guys post that's anything but the actual interview you all decide to speak authoritatively about.

And you didn't wonder at all why there's an ellipsis right in the middle of what they quoted?

Let me help you with what they decided to leave out and just put "..." instead, to intentionally skip right over. "And by the way, this never would have happened. Had I been in office, it wouldn't even be thinkable", and then added, "it's very sad" at the end. And THAT is what you clowns decided was an endorsement? Just lol. Brought to you by the same suckers who still think he called neo nazis "very fine people".

Here's the actual interview that none of you gave. What he said was savvy is declaring Donetsk and Luhansk independent rather than Russian when their troops were on the border, which it clearly was considering not even Ukraine thought they were going to invade most of the country.



 
Strychnine said:
If you haven't noticed, the Russian army has been shown to be lackluster at best. Pres. Putin was trying to beat Ukraine to its knees, but Ukraine kept finding their legs and standing strong. For Putin? That's not a good look.

The WH probably walked back what he said so people wouldn't spazz and rage "OMG! WE HAVE TROOPS IN UKRAINE!" He was probably forward thinking in the effect, we WILL have troops in Ukraine to help rebuild.

If it looks like a nothingburger and smells like a nothingburger...
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Just lol.
 
TUFNewb said:
He can be both a coward and a war criminal. Often cowards target civilians rather than fight the enemy head on, which is exactly what the cowardly pussies are doing right now.

Putin is a cuck, we're giving the the uaf the ability to slaughter thousands of his servicemen and he takes it... he knows they can't do shit about it other than start a war that kills him and his family. We called their bluff. They're not that tough or scary or hard. They're just panicked despots.

Stop with the strawman shit. I never said anything about needing or not needing nato.
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How many troops do you think are in Russia still?
The issue here is he didn't expect every country to send munitions left and right.
It's pretty easy to defeat a military when many countries are fighting one.

Let's not get that twisted.
 
nostradumbass said:
How did I know your "source" was democrat party propaganda from the fucking washington post and not the actual interview?
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So to recap:

-Trump would never praise Putin!
::gives a quote of trump praising putin::

-Ok, I bet you don't have a source for trump praising putin!
::gives source of trump praising putin::

-Ok you have a source, but I don't like it.

But out of curiosity, when trump praised putin for being smart and savvy after invading ukraine, was he talking about the sanctions that have devastated the russian economy, or the 13,000 dead russian soldiers who failed to achieve his objective?
 
deadon said:
This is the US at its best. Supply Ukraine with weapons, military, money and food.

Then say, hey it's not any armed forces! Lol kind of like Iraq and Stan. We would hire trained military and send them in. "They're acting on their own" lol yeah right.
What we're doing is fighting a war through another country. Kind of like we did with Stan and Russia back in the day.

If I were putin I'd rain all hell down on the US. Obviously this isn't something I want as I'm a red blooded American. But if they were pulling the sane shit against the US I'd want to smash Russia.
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It's what Russia pulled against Ukraine before an outright military invasion.
 
nostradumbass said:
Big shock, again, that's not the interview, but it's entertaining watching how much crap you guys post that's anything but the actual interview you all decide to speak authoritatively about.

And you didn't wonder at all why there's an ellipsis right in the middle of what they quoted?

Let me help you with what they decided to leave out and just put "..." instead, to intentionally skip right over. "And by the way, this never would have happened. Had I been in office, it wouldn't even be thinkable", and then added, "it's very sad" at the end. And THAT is what you clowns decided was an endorsement? Just lol. Brought to you by the same suckers who still think he called neo nazis "very fine people".

Here's the actual interview that none of you gave. What he said was savvy is declaring Donetsk and Luhansk independent rather than Russian when their troops were on the border, which it clearly was considering not even Ukraine thought they were going to invade most of the country.



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I was doing the quoting and putting the ellipses in there <45>

We're not being manipulated by "MSM" or "MaIn StReAm MeDiA", it's direct quotes taken from the ACTUAL source by ME, what are you even talking about?

Now you're going to pretend Trump didn't say the words I quoted?

Are you for real? <45><45><45>
 
Siver! said:
I was doing the quoting and putting the ellipses in there <45>

We're not being manipulated by "MSM" or "MaIn StReAm MeDiA", it's direct quotes taken from the ACTUAL source by ME, what are you even talking about?

Now you're going to pretend Trump didn't say the words I quoted?

Are you for real? <45><45><45>
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Then YOU are the liar? Congrats, that's much better.
 
Siver! said:
Click the video, he says the words <45>

What are you even pretending to argue? <Moves>
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That you intentionally left out him saying that's it's bad and wouldn't have happened when he was president because you're a dishonest hack who wanted the context removed. Was that a real question?
 
nostradumbass said:
That you intentionally left out him saying that's it's bad and wouldn't have happened when he was president because you're a dishonest hack who wanted the context removed. Was that a real question?
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We know he said it's bad, he also said it's "genius", you were looking for the quotes of him saying it's "genius" and "savvy" so I gave you them <45>

You then post a 34 minute clip of a 60 minute interview and pretend he never said it <Lmaoo>
 
Siver! said:
Abso-fuckin'-lutely.

Even the contrarians are bailing on the 'Nazi' element and labelling it silly, but the Russians are still pretending it's a real problem.
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Lol because western media has been deflecting and misinforming about Ukrainian nazis .

The Azov battalion and c14 and quite a few others are heinous people... if it calls itself nazis. Uses nazi regalia and has been involved in conflict... their nazis.

The larping militia is a cute deflection tho
 
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