International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V15

[San Marino]

Musk and Co want to reduce civil personal numbers employed by U.S MoD in U.S.

Ah, we are talking about Active-Duty military personnel, not civilians working for the Department of Defense.
Do you know the difference between an apple and an orange?

 

[San Marino]

So this channel existed for 11 years. Until 4 months ago, it features 0 military themed videos. It's all random stuff in Russian like "How to disable ad blockers" and "How to properly transfer files from a flash drive to a computer". Then all of a sudden 4 months ago numerous AI-narrated videos start popping up, all of them showing Russia winning.

A really good neutral source of information, you got my props for that.

I don't know what is sadder - that you think you can convert anyone with that pathetic propaganda or that the person who hacked/bought this channel didn't even bother to hide the previously uploaded videos.

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Yeah, if it isn't talking about a Ukrainian victory, it is misinformation and Russian propaganda. We get it.
You can go back to bed now. Thanks.

 

[SandisLL]

rump administration didn't had signed any next bills for Ukr since he took office.

Even from batch apporoved by Congress in 2024 th not all stuff is delivered.

I don't think that for Ukr makes any sense to sign papers with kremlinoids in U.S.
They are kremlinoids and will not make any sense here who will rule ukr or what stuff ukr will sign or not sign.

I think for U.S simply is easier to press Ukr than Matushka, therefore they opted to be putinoids ( they are ) in Ukr question.

While cos other reasons they might go against their bottlemates

 

[Strychnine]

I already posted about that. Old news.
You forgot to mention about the 15 new Russian Army Divisions Putin is going to throw at Ukraine this year.

Why would this affect the National Guard? It is run by each individual state. State funding, not federal funding.

From the article.. "Because it's not clear."

 

[Strychnine]

Russia ignores Trump.

 

[SandisLL]

If about SAM systems I do know better than majority of bloggers and yt etc " experts ". Especially how to see is pic mockup, from exibition and doctored peaces of shit etc.
I don't comment about military ships and boats cos I don't know this stuff, maybe something about their air def stuff I do know but other stuff no.

Degradation level of bloggers and other kind of money hungry idiots when there is conversation about SAM systems and tanks...unfortunately is bottom level shit.

 

[SandisLL]

Ukraine turns an 18-foot watercraft into a drone carrier. Crazy innovation!

It is new stuff.
If they had managed to use unmanned watercraft in order to carry drones and launch them...then it is really new stuff for actual warfare.

Ship launching drones actually was nothing special even 30 years ago.
While if small unmanned boat - drone used as " ship " to launch drones : it is new stuff.

 

[Rholk]

I read something I didn’t like and it made me mad. Got it

I could settle for
"Violence involving right-wing extremists groups were used as an excuse to launch a predetermined invasion plan"
But no, not this simple bullshit lol.

 

[SandisLL]

According to some SK and ukr estimates North Korea had supplied russia with approx 120-220 self propelled howitzers. Looks that these are delivered for war in Ukraine.
For Kim Trump is literally empty noise.
Kim and Lukashenko had again confirmed that western sanctions doesn't work.

 

[SandisLL]

There is one thing, americans most likely will be delusional about this and use their own dreams ....

U.S does have all chances to loss trade war vs Eurozone and yelling will not help, dreams will not help and internet mass media aunts too will not help.

If ECB will lower some key interest rates % properly.
Strong eurozone is " weak " eur.
Nothing personal.

 

[DEVILsSON]

Like all the articles that point to what is really happening in Ukraine?

Much of your information is presented in a misleading manner. I follow many pro Ukraine channels but also some Russian that just present information on the front lines. Even pro Ukraine channels speak to the changes on the front lines, destroyed equipment, loss of lives, POWs, etc/

So, your father supports the Russian invasion of Ukraine?

He's against the invasion but he repeats the typical Russian talking points.

No, not ignorant, just pointing out truths about this conflict everyone else seems to ignore.
Why is it that Ukraine is always doing well (when they in fact are not) and Russia is doing poorly?

That's not remotely the case if you follow pro Ukraine channels as I do. They have days where they openly state that it's mostly or all bad news for the day and go into detail. You are just shilling for the Russians and it's over the top to the point of comical. If Russia was doing so well they wouldn't be out of their armor, using scooters and donkeys, using DPRK soldiers and shells, etc. Russia right now has a man shortage and can't cover both Belgorod and Kursk as an example. Russian economy is crumbling and would continue to circle the drain if not for Trump desperately trying to give them a life line.

What about Ukrainian misinformation and propaganda? You and others are 'locked in' on the fact that Ukraine is doing well and will stop Russia. I think a big disappointment is coming your way by the end of the year.

Like I said I follow pro Ukraine and a couple pro Russian channels that just present information and it's been largely a stalemate. However Russia has in fact been doing quite poorly. It lost Kharkiv, Kherson, Sumy and in multiple other smaller areas. It took Russia forever to capture small towns. Right now Russia controls less territory than in the first weeks of the full scale war. Ukrainians now have a drone advantage which is huge.

So this channel existed for 11 years. Until 4 months ago, it features 0 military themed videos. It's all random stuff in Russian like "How to disable ad blockers" and "How to properly transfer files from a flash drive to a computer". Then all of a sudden 4 months ago numerous AI-narrated videos start popping up, all of them showing Russia winning.

A really good neutral source of information, you got my props for that.

I don't know what is sadder - that you think you can convert anyone with that pathetic propaganda or that the person who hacked/bought this channel didn't even bother to hide the previously uploaded videos.

He thinks everyone is dumb and lazy to check anything(almost like his typical target audience that lives in Russia and only watches a couple channels). He thinks he can peddle months long articles about something and people won't even check the date. He takes a very pro Russian mindset, he thinks if he floods this thread with misinformation/disinformation it's pretty much as good as convincing people that it's the truth.

 

[cincymma79]

I could settle for
"Violence involving right-wing extremists groups were used as an excuse to launch a predetermined invasion plan"
But no, not this simple bullshit lol.

Did they have an election we didn’t like and staged a coup to get our guy in and the asshole brigade was attacking civilians? Maybe we shouldn’t have picked sides and gotten a million people killed or injured

 

[PEB]

 

[San Marino]

Much of your information is presented in a misleading manner.

No, it is not. That is just your interpretation of the facts and the fact that it does not follow what you believe in.

That's not remotely the case if you follow pro Ukraine channels as I do. They have days where they openly state that it's mostly or all bad news for the day and go into detail. You are just shilling for the Russians and it's over the top to the point of comical.

Over the top to the point of comical? What do you think of the 3% in this thread who have to read the constant Ukraine worshiping? How strong Ukraine is and how poorly Russia is doing. There is no mention of Ukrainian casualties, desertion, shortage of soldiers, and shortage of weaponry. The constant 'cherry picking' of what goes well for Ukraine but not on what goes poorly.

If Russia was doing so well they wouldn't be out of their armor, using scooters and donkeys, using DPRK soldiers and shells, etc.

In 2024 alone, Russia produced and refurbished an estimated 1,550 tanks, 5,700 armored vehicles and 450 artillery pieces of all types.

Inside Russia’s 2024 military-industrial complex

With the understanding that the Russo-Ukrainian War has transitioned into a protracted phase and that the Russian army's command has adopted a war of attrition strategy, the capabilities of the Russian Military Industrial Complex (MIC) have become one of the central issues among others that...

euro-sd.com

Not all units are the same or have the same problems or shortages.

Russia right now has a man shortage and can't cover both Belgorod and Kursk as an example.

How is Putin sending 15 Russian Army Divisions to Ukraine this year?

Russian economy is crumbling.

No, it is not.
Russia has adapted its economy to the sanctions placed on it and certain sectors are doing better than in 2022.

No economy is completely healthy, and Russia’s is, by far, no exception, particularly given Western sanctions and its rampant spending on the military-industrial complex and the war against Ukraine. Still, one has to wonder: can an economy that has been growing in the past two years and which is expected by the World Bank and IMF to continue growing for another two years (albeit more slowly), be described as collapsing like a house of cards?

Is Russia’s Economy Collapsing? | Russia Matters

www.russiamatters.org

However Russia has in fact been doing quite poorly.

No, it has not. It has captured 99% of the Kursk region in March.

Right now Russia controls less territory than in the first weeks of the full scale war.

You are joking right? This is where you and others lose all credibility when arguing this conflict.

Ukrainians now have a drone advantage which is huge.

Both countries are about equal when it comes to drones. Fiber optic drones used by the Russians have been nearly indestructible.

He thinks everyone is dumb and lazy to check anything. He thinks he can peddle months long articles about something and people won't even check the date. He takes a very pro Russian mindset, he thinks if he floods this thread with misinformation/disinformation it's pretty much as good as convincing people that it's the truth.

He, as in me. Yeah. A good number of the members are dumb and lazy. They don't do their own research and believe anything remotely related to a Russian victory is misinformation or Russia propaganda. Also, a good number of the members are left leaning liberals who would wish nothing more than to see Trump, Musk, and Putin disappear. The same bunch that claimed Joe Biden was an excellent president. The same president that told Putin a small military incursion into Ukraine would not be a problem for him or the United States. What months articles are you referring to? Regarding what topic? Be more specific if you are going to be pulling shit out of your ass as you go along. What misinformation/disinformation are you talking about? Give 3 examples. Actually, the exact thing is happening with things posted by you and other members on this thread.

You, and others, think that because Russia invaded Ukraine, they are automatically guilty. Ukraine brought this invasion on itself with the help of the west. You of all people should know the history of this conflict. Why don't you address the corruption inside the Ukrainian government prior to 2022? Why don't you address the fact that Russia had warned Ukraine time and again about consequences of becoming part of NATO? Why don't you address how the ethnic minority of Russians in eastern Ukraine were being brutalized by the Zelensky regime?

Russia invades Ukraine and everyone claims Russia is automatically the culprit. The United States invades Iraq, and everyone claims Iraq is the culprit. Have you ever fought in a war you were against? How about being told after the fact and losing a dozen of your friends to this stupid war that it was all a big mistake by the US. No, Iraq never had WMDs. Living with the fact that it was all a big waste of time, money, and lives. You can thank Dick Cheney for that stupid conflict.

 

[AWilder]

Yeah. From the same sources which claimed that Putin died from cancer and was replaced by body doubles, or that General Gerasimov was killed in 5 different locations. You'll believe anything which claims Ukraine good, Russia bad.

Hindustan times is on my favorites tab too

 

[The Diplomat]

So we're just mask off "I want Russia to win" these days, eh?

 

[Strychnine]

"Ukraine has the edge" is from an active-duty U.S. Army 4-Star General.

 

[DEVILsSON]

So we're just mask off "I want Russia to win" these days, eh?

That has been super obvious from the beginning. He just wants them to own the libs or something. He just whined above about liberals wanting Trump, Musk and Putin to disappear as if those would be such horrible things.

Most people obviously have their own opinions but US would be just fine and in my humble opinion better off. Anyone watching the markets last couple days or posessing a rudimentary understanding of economics would understand why.

 

[pseto223]

You are joking right? This is where you and others lose all credibility when arguing this conflict.
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This map shows what territories Russia controlled after the Ukrainian counter offensive of 2022 in which ~40 000 square kilometers were retaken. So you posted yet another lie hoping you won't be fact checked. You were.

This is how Ukraine's occupation looked at its worst.

 

[Rholk]

Did they have an election we didn’t like and staged a coup to get our guy in and the asshole brigade was attacking civilians? Maybe we shouldn’t have picked sides and gotten a million people killed or injured

Nah, fuck that. Supporting that "coup" was 100% the correct moral choice.

They voted for more integration into Europe, their "leader" did his best to fuck them over in the name of Russia.
He's lucky to have escaped with his life, should've been lynched